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marcellocatalano 23rd May 2010 02:36 AM
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thank you guys for supporting the knowledge and use the whole name, but you don't need to do that at all costs, risking to fall asleep while you write it :)! You can just call it var. globosa, or even globosa, like you do with N. mirabilis var. echinostoma. Just keep in mind that it's a variety and that now it has an official name :)

Boris 23rd May 2010 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by caseyhoo (Post 29379)
eeemmm... any one know what others nepenthes plant that require their pitcher hide from sunlight in order to get their potential color? Beside N. mirabilis var globosa.
N. argentii and N. sibuyanensis are putting their pitchers in the soil. They are living in a quite stormy habitate. The theory is that they do so to fix the plant better to the bottom. That hasn't to do with the colour but who knows.

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 10:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caseyhoo (Post 29350)
wauh!!! a lots of viking!!!!

For N. mirabilis var globosa, you need to hide those pitcher from sunlight in order to get reddish color. It is difference from others nepenthes...
Dear Caseyhoo,

I'm not fully understand and get the meaning for "hide those pitcher from sunlight in order to get reddish color." :shy:

Currently I'm putting them at my balcony East side and it about 4 - 5 hours morning full sunlight. Do it mean that if I hide the pitcher, the color will "Reddish"? If I did not hide the pitcher, the color will "Red"？

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by NepNut (Post 29355)
Hi LJ,
Nice N. mirabilis var globosa from Boon. Most N. mirabilis and it's variant's pitcher will get bleach if exposed to strong sunlight. If you want to maintain the reddish pitcher, hide the pitchers, away from sunlight.

However, pls don't misunderstand that the plants will also need to be shaded, actually most N. mirabilis and it's variants grow best in full direct sun when it's mature. Please remember to do this step by step, if not you might hurt the plants when you suddenly move them to full direct sunlight.
Dear NepNut,

Do it mean that the pitcher will change to 'red' if getting full sunlight?

Due to some reason, I ask my friend to pick up N. mirabilis var globosa from Boon on Apr and I get it on May. I'm direct putting them 4 - 5 hours morning sunlight and after about 4 days, the color of the leaf was started changed including the pitcher. Look like I'm do some mistake on it.:crying:

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by marvin1997 (Post 29358)
They do? OMG I wanna put my N.Vik.... N.mirabilis var globosa in the shade xD
Now, I do not sure to put them at shade place or just maint it ?:crying:

Quote:
Originally Posted by kevyn chan (Post 29360)
wow! :2thumbup: so many N. mirabilis var globosa (tongue twister) from Boon.......believe me, they can go 'redder'! i can't take any pics now.....my camera sulking on me after left it in an acond room.....bad moisture from condensation, sigh.....
You may send it to repair, hope you can share it ASAP..

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 10:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caseyhoo (Post 29379)
eeemmm... any one know what others nepenthes plant that require their pitcher hide from sunlight in order to get their potential color? Beside N. mirabilis var globosa.

As I know from Robert, some of ampullaria and some mirabilis need so... Now, come to question, which amp and mirabilis need so?how we know that? :crying:

Tan, sorry for out of topic...

Dear Caseyhoo,

No problem. If you have more question to ask, pls ask it. I also can learn on it:shy:

I'm having the problem like why same plant put on same place but 1 side pitchers was "hide" the color will different with other.

I'm confuse for Nepenthes :confused:

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 10:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marcellocatalano (Post 29381)
thank you guys for supporting the knowledge and use the whole name, but you don't need to do that at all costs, risking to fall asleep while you write it :)! You can just call it var. globosa, or even globosa, like you do with N. mirabilis var. echinostoma. Just keep in mind that it's a variety and that now it has an official name :)
Dear Marc,

Better we use official name :smile:

I started learning Nepenthes and still have a lot of "???" and confuse item may needs your help on it.:shy:

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 10:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boris (Post 29384)
N. argentii and N. sibuyanensis are putting their pitchers in the soil. They are living in a quite stormy habitate. The theory is that they do so to fix the plant better to the bottom. That hasn't to do with the colour but who knows.
Dear Boris,

How about N.ampullaria?

NepNut 23rd May 2010 11:00 AM
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LJ,
When the whole plant of N. mirabilis var. globosa recieved strong light, the leaves and stems will turned to reddish coloration, that's because of formation of carotenoid (reddish pigments) by the plant to protect against strong light.

When the plant recieved strong sunlight, the developing pitchers will turned to red color. However, if after the pitcher open and stay exposed to sunlight, the pitcher will lose it's redness after it's aged (usually after 2-3 weeks), meaning the pitcher will become greenish and pale in color. This is what we refer as "bleaching" effect.

To show you what I mean....

N. mirabilis var globosa - 1 : Pitcher developed in a layer of LSM. The top part of the pitcher exposed to sunlight.
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3665/viking1.jpg

N. mirabilis var globosa - 2 (same pitcher): This is how the whole pitcher looks like. You'll see a clear distinction of coloration where the part of the pitcher that wasn't exposed to sunlight. The whitish part won't regain the redness once it's bleached even you hide it away from sunlight by now.
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6369/viking2.jpg

N. mirabilis var globosa - 3 : This is how the pitcher will look like when it's developed and kept away from sunlight.
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9060/viking3.jpg


Please know that in nature, most N. mirabilis and it's variant grow under full direct sunlight. Hope this help. :smile:

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 11:37 AM
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Dear NepNut,

Thank for your explain.

I will do some experiment on it:shy:.

'LSM' is ?


Thank you


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