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Cheng 2nd November 2011 04:22 PM

D. Capensis needs help!
 
I got this from Allen about two months ago and it's simply appalling to see it's almost non-existence growth rate that it's showing. I put it under the hot sun without any shade together with my other sundews.

Even my D. Filiformis that I received from Allen at the same time is growing better than this one! Any tips? ):

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allenphoon 2nd November 2011 04:24 PM

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1) reduce temperature as much as you can as capensis can only be weed if given low temperature(*hint-they origin from overseas with winter)
2)if they have dews, feed them with some food will do

Cheng 2nd November 2011 04:32 PM

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Tips duly noted. Thanks!

strath76 2nd November 2011 08:07 PM

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That is not a capensis. The margins of capensis are the same. By that I mean that the width of the leaf is the same. The plant above is more spoon shaped similar to intermedia.

I would suggest that if the filiformis is growing well place it near that but increase humidity. If there is no improvement after a week or two try repotting into a peat/sand mix.

allenphoon 2nd November 2011 11:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by strath76 (Post 60693)
That is not a capensis. Teh margins of capensis are the same. By that I mean that the width of the leaf is the same. The plant above is more spoon shaped similar to intermedia.

I would suggest that if the filiformis is growing well place it near that but increase humidity. If there is no improvement after a week or two try repotting into a peat/sand mix.

i have some plant that look like that one, are they D.intermediate?
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strath76 3rd November 2011 05:25 AM

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Both plants above look more like D. nidiformis to me. There are several species with similar leaf types. You will get natural variation due to growing conditions. A plant in optimal conditions will look different to a plant that is stressed. A couple of the other similar ones are anglica and to some extent cappilaris.

Tarence 3rd November 2011 09:27 AM

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They look like d.intermedia to me. But yes, as strath76 pointed out, plants under stress look a lil` diff from a happy one.

IMHO, for our weather, sundews can make do with just half day sun. Afternoon sun at its peak might be too hot for most sundews & they can actually do very well with just full morning sun ( 8 a.m. - 11a.m. + ) & bright area there after.

You`ll get more dew & the plant will look more "relaxed".

Only sarracenias can take whole day sun.

strath76 3rd November 2011 12:32 PM

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Intermedia is probably the most likely. I know there are few people growing them over there and there was also quite a bit of seed going around a few years ago. I haven't seen nidiformis mentioned too much on the forum.

Many forms of intermedia are swamp plants and can take water to the top of the pot during the growing season. You just need to make sure that the water in the tropics doesn't heat up too much and cook them. The method Tarence has mentioned of morning sun and afternoon shade should stop the overheating as would using a large container.

Cheng 3rd November 2011 03:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarence (Post 60733)
They look like d.intermedia to me. But yes, as strath76 pointed out, plants under stress look a lil` diff from a happy one.

IMHO, for our weather, sundews can make do with just half day sun. Afternoon sun at its peak might be too hot for most sundews & they can actually do very well with just full morning sun ( 8 a.m. - 11a.m. + ) & bright area there after.

You`ll get more dew & the plant will look more "relaxed".

Only sarracenias can take whole day sun.

I'm pretty sure it's not D. Intermedia because I have one too and they look different in terms of size and leaf width. Besides, my Intermedia is doing a lot better than my Capensis ): Now that you mention it... I've been cooking my sundews together with my sarra... Thank you for the tips!

Tarence 3rd November 2011 04:56 PM

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Cheng, show us your alleged d.intermedia & we`ll confirm it for you. LOL.

Just to share, my sundews are stacked on a multi tier rack ( tier 2 & 3 from a 4-tier rack ) & protected from direct rain by layering a see-thru plastic on the tiers above it. VFTs are their close-by neighbours.

Sun is frm angled sunlite rcvd from about 9-11 +a.m.

Right on top of the rack are my sarracenias which are housed in planter boxes. They are the true sun-worshippers & assist to break the raindrops from hitting my more fragile sundews.

Some of us sundews growers are of the opinion that sundews in their original environment do not experience rains like in M`sia ie not so often & not so heavy. So their dew production is somewhat affected & this would "irritate" the plant in our climate. Every time it rains, their dew is washed off & they have to reproduce it.

I know of peeps who grow their sundews quite happily in the open so well, it`s up to the grower *smile* IMHO, sundews grow best protected from our heavy rains + a`noon sun.

Cheng 3rd November 2011 05:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarence (Post 60754)
Cheng, show us your alleged d.intermedia & we`ll confirm it for you. LOL.

Just to share, my sundews are stacked on a multi tier rack ( tier 2 & 3 from a 4-tier rack ) & protected from direct rain by layering a see-thru plastic on the tiers above it. VFTs are their close-by neighbours.

Sun is frm angled sunlite rcvd from about 9-11 +a.m.

Right on top of the rack are my sarracenias which are housed in planter boxes. They are the true sun-worshippers & assist to break the raindrops from hitting my more fragile sundews.

Some of us sundews growers are of the opinion that sundews in their original environment do not experience rains like in M`sia ie not so often & not so heavy. So their dew production is somewhat affected & this would "irritate" the plant in our climate. Every time it rains, their dew is washed off & they have to reproduce it.

I know of peeps who grow their sundews quite happily in the open so well, it`s up to the grower *smile* IMHO, sundews grow best protected from our heavy rains + a`noon sun.

Challenge accepted.

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Sorry about the blur... Amateurish skills :shy:

I see... But the areas in my house compound that are shielded from the rain is pretty shady(pun not intended) so I have no choice but to dump them out in the open ): Thanks for the tips Tarence! Time to move my pets <3

Tarence 3rd November 2011 06:19 PM

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Ok yr d. Intermedia is indeed what you say it is.

Your other sundew is most prob a d. Nidiformis...

Go get some Filiformis or Binata or burmanii which totally look diff then there won't be confusion heheh.

piscesilim 3rd November 2011 07:02 PM

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It is D. nidiformis. Can't tolerate afternoon heat. Won't grow nice under the shade.

Cheng 3rd November 2011 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by piscesilim (Post 60763)
It is D. nidiformis. Can't tolerate afternoon heat. Won't grow nice under the shade.

Oh no... Hope it's still not too late to save it! Thanks for sharing!

edwardyeeks 3rd November 2011 08:39 PM

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Interesting.....at least now I know why most of my sundews were unhappy back then :unsure:

piscesilim 3rd November 2011 10:44 PM

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If you buy Sundew from Cameron Highlands, most of them are South African species like D. capensis, D. aliciae, D. nidiformis and etc. They grow well in highland. But not easy to grow in lowland condition. If you buy sundew from my price list. All of them grow well in lowland condition. They are not afraid of afternoon heat. Even the temperature is 48 - 49 °C.

strath76 4th November 2011 04:02 AM

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Tarence you are right about most sundews not experiencing rain like you get in Malaysia. The exception of course are the tropical growing species. Things such as burmannii, indica, petiolaris complex and of course the three sisters from Queensland (adelae, prolifera and schizandra for those playing at home). The three sisters will grow well in low light conditions and schizandra will not survive if exposed to direct sunlight.

Cheng,
If you can get them one of the three sisters may be a good option for your shielded positions.

Tarence 4th November 2011 09:22 AM

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strath76 : not many of us have prolifera or schizandra. i have d. adelae but like you said, it`s a picky sundew in our hot tropical weather. i have a few pots of it growing in 2 parts of my garden.

Logic : if it suddenly gets hot in 1 part of the garden due to sun angle shifting & me not noticing, at least I`ll still have some to rely on.

Cheng : go try other sundews later.... Filiformis + Binata are quite easy to grow. But stabilise your existing ones first.

allenphoon 4th November 2011 09:34 AM

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i grow D. nidiformis from seeds,some is currently having flower(purple in colour) hopefully they will have the strain to overcome the heat

cheng get most of her drosera from me(after i giving her a FC D.adelae)
currently she having drosera paradoxa, binata, filiformis, intermedia"cuba", burmannii, nidformis
i think she had already stabilise most of them, since she keep asking more drosera more drosera from me, uuh..

Tarence 4th November 2011 01:48 PM

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Heheh ok. All d best. Happy growing then.

Cheng 4th November 2011 04:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by allenphoon (Post 60808)
i grow D. nidiformis from seeds,some is currently having flower(purple in colour) hopefully they will have the strain to overcome the heat

cheng get most of her drosera from me(after i giving her a FC D.adelae)
currently she having drosera paradoxa, binata, filiformis, intermedia"cuba", burmannii, nidformis
i think she had already stabilise most of them, since she keep asking more drosera more drosera from me, uuh..

Hehe. Will probably buy a Nep from you too! <3 Keep the sundews coming!

zoit 5th November 2011 05:22 AM

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I am from South Africa where these plants come from. They grow in wet mountain regions with bright light and low heat. I have attached a photo of my D Capensis growing in full sun, about 28deg C at the moment and you can notice the leaf tip burn. Soon I will move them into cooler area with less heat. If your plant is D Capensis, move the plant indoors with less light and heat and keep moist. The plant will grow fast with floppy leafs and green in color, but at least it will survive. Then you can easily take leaf cuttings to preserve the plant.
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Cheng 5th November 2011 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by zoit (Post 60931)
I am from South Africa where these plants come from. They grow in wet mountain regions with bright light and low heat. I have attached a photo of my D Capensis growing in full sun, about 28deg C at the moment and you can notice the leaf tip burn. Soon I will move them into cooler area with less heat. If your plant is D Capensis, move the plant indoors with less light and heat and keep moist. The plant will grow fast with floppy leafs and green in color, but at least it will survive. Then you can easily take leaf cuttings to preserve the plant.
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Wow! Nice D. Capensis you have there! Thank you for the advice. Did pretty much what I can. *crosses finger for it to survive*


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