Drosera and some extremely rare tuberous
 

Drosera binata- fly Gotcha!
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/140...nataflyan3.jpg
Drosera binata complex groups from different areas.
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3...atarouppk5.jpg
Drosera gigantea ssp. gigantea baby plant- AL
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1...spgiganox1.jpg
Drosera huegelii
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8...uegeliiwr9.jpg
Drosera huegelii leaf
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2...liileafdm7.jpg
Drosera lowrie
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3...alowriezb5.jpg
Drosera macrophylla ssp.macrophylla
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/5...lasspmasn9.jpg
Drosera macrophylla ssp.macrophylla flower close up
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6...lasspmapu0.jpg







More later.

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Wow, great plants Grandmaster! I particularly like the closeup of the Drosera huegelii leaf as I'd never seen this before. Are these native to Australia? Looking forward to hearing/seeing more from you! Welcome to PP!

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They are all very native to Australia. Drosera huegelii is one of my favriotes, it is the only species that hangs it's leafs in that fashion.

Drosera macrophylla ssp. macrophylla in flower
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/256...lasspmavm3.jpg
Drosera macrophylla ssp.monantha a rare species in captivity
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/992...lasspmocu8.jpg
Drosera macrophylla ssp.monantha flower close up
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/174...lasspmovn0.jpg
Drosera peltata - FH
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/441...edhowelzw3.jpg
Drosera radicans- another rare species in culture

Dhttp://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7...adicansof4.jpg
rosera ramellosa
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6...ellosa2in9.jpg
Drosera stolonifera ssp. rupicola
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1...upicolams7.jpg
The big boys left to right, Drosera macrantha ssp. macrantha, Drosera pallida, Drosera intricata, Drosera erythrogyne
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7...rosera1kj4.jpg


More to come. :1thumbup::smile:

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First off Drosera erythrogyne, the worlds largest Drosera at over 3 meters tall but it has some of the smallest leaves!.:unsure: This species is Extremley rare in culture and only found in a few collections.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9...rogyne1ib5.jpg
Drosera zonaria, not very good so I will try to get a better shot at a later date.
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8...zonariaqp8.jpg

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Again, great to see these species that (I believe) most of us never get a chance to see! That D. zonaria looks like an aerial view of a fountain! How much of a rarity is it to find that one? It's another 'first timer' for me to see and I love it! I think you are gonna be real popular in the Drosera section of this forum grandmaster!
Shawn

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Drosera zonaria can be purchased from Allen Lowrie for a meer $9.

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Wow! Nice droseras.

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Wow, very nice collection of tuberous sundews you have. I personally like that D. lowrie and D. zonaria so much and been looking for them. Thanks for sharing.

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You won't be able to grow any tuberous species except for native Drosera peltata in your tropical countrys, they need cool winter periods to grow.

Some new ones taken this morning, a wee bit out of focus because I was on the run to get out of town.
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6...nticolase9.jpg
Drosera granticola
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8...ophyllaag1.jpg
Drosera hetrophylla
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2...isspprozk0.jpg
Drosera marchantii ssp.prophylla
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/2...amooreixr7.jpg
Drosera moorei

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Those drosera is so nice!!!

Especially Drosera zonaria

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So sad that we won't be able to grow them in the tropic. :sad:
Mind to tell how you keep them during winter? And why do they require cool winter to thrive? How the plant react or look like during winter? Sorry, so many questions. :tongue:

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grandmaster,

I echo what everyone else is saying... Your plants are simply beautiful. Can't get my eyes off D. lowrie and D. zonaria. So unique and beautiful. Can give a little explanation on how you grow them and what is their requirement? Thanks

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Reqirements are simple

Soil: 50/50 peat/sand
light:lots of
water:lots of when they are growing and when they die back ease of the water untill they are dormant, when they are dormant no water what so ever.

Because they are Tuberous Drosera they are from W.A. they are temperate plants that require seasons to indicate growth, flowering, dieing back ect. They grow during the winter in W.A. because the summers here are hot and dry and the winters are cool and wet, they go into dormancy during summer so six months of the year you see no growth past the soil surface.

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I have been trying to germinate a batch of D gigantea seeds since March. Looking forward... fingers cross. After what I have read above. I am still hopping.

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You should re-read that.

You are Wasting your time, you can't grow Tuberous Drosera in the tropics.

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Thanks for the warning, Grand. Well, since the seeds are here might as well try. No harm just filling water into the tray once a week.

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Great photos, I have not seen some of these species myself.
Other thing about tuberous sundew seeds, many WA species need special techiques to get germination. Put simply they need a bushfire. Reasons are several the fire clean the overhead vegetation, produce fertilzer (ash) and release chemicals in smoke which trigger germination. On top of this it can take three years for germination.
Good news is some species such as gigantea do not need the above conditions. Other species are to easy germinate from personal experience(if you live in a warm temperate area) are auriculata, peltata, macrantha ssp planchonii, stolonifera ssp stolonifera, ssp rupicola, mooreii, whittakerii ssp whittakerii.

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The chemical needed to induce germination is called Ethylene. Drosera stricticularis is another species that self pollinates and germinates easily. Found in Western Australia and Port Lincoln in South Australia.:1thumbup:

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Drosera mooreii, stolonifera and whittakerii ssp whittakerii need two genetic parents for seed set, mooreii will set a small amount of seeds with pollintion between clone sisters.
I think there is several chemicals release by the gum trees also involed, with some non CP natives, heat itself.
I have seen the SA version of the stricticularis in cultivation, once. An ACPS member from Port Lincolin brought pot in several years ago. It smaller in all parts than it WA counterpart. It found in one swamp south of the Airport. He reported it took 5 years to reach heigh of about 11cm. I have heard a rumour of Drosera ramellosa in the very tip of Eyre Peniusla.
Anyone got seeds of stricticularis ?

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That explains why my tubers seeds have not germination even after almost half a year. Guess we could just admire the picture from you guys living where they grow. I do hope somebody here in the tropics would try the suggestion by Khoas in his other thread "Tuberous Drosera in the Tropics".

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David,
Don't lose hope on the seeds yet. Allow the seeds to dry out for 6 months (Summer) and try again in the coolest part of the year. Like I mention in the other thread nighttime lenght and temperature are signals that the seeds will look for germination. Even then it will take 6 - 12 weeks for germination. Also Gilliberic Acid (a plant hormone) is handy for kick starting the germination.

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Greg Bourke Reports that nearly all the species require two seperate clones to produce any viable quantity of seed, You can also make Tuberous Drosera Hybrids such as Greg and I have done recently.:1thumbup:

I watched a TV program on the discovery of Ethylene in 1994, it was the only single chemical responcible for bush regeneration, Heat itself has nothing to do with Tuberous Drosera.

Time for some more photos I think.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2452/rimg0170je6.jpg
Drosera peltata "Richmond, NSW"
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7646/rimg0172zs4.jpg
Drosera macrantha ssp.emerae also known now as Stricticularis ssp.emerae which makes more sence to me.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4207/rimg0173fc6.jpg
Drosera stolonifera ssp. stolonifera "type form"


More later-

Grandmaster.

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Ok, ok, lucky I have not thrown that few pots away. However, i've moved it away from my terrarium and the media is dried up for about 1 month + already. Will wait for the rains in Sept-December where it is cooler to try again.

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Yes you are right about heat with Drosera it other genera like Banksia that need heat. What types of hybrids have you managed to produce? Any cross of the different subgroups?
Interesting that eremea is been classifed as subspecies of stricticularis. I have try to cross it with macrantha with no success. I would still be inclined to see it more related to macrantha but as seperate species. It is scrambling herb unlike the stricticularis I saw which had habit closer to menzesii ssp menzesii. Interesting about eremea is it does not release it pollen until after 2pm.

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Some more

Drosera rupicola
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/788/rimg0176yd2.jpg
Drosera granticola
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2266/rimg0178ak4.jpg
Drosera macrantha ssp.emerae flower (stricticularis ssp.emerae)
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5593/rimg0172kr9.jpg
Drosera ramellosa - Mosquito
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/221/rimg0183mg7.jpg

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Moar!

Drosera sulphurea- looks similar to peltata, gigantea ect.
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7614/rimg0192ks5.jpg
Drosera pallida flowers.
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/3883/rimg0194se0.jpg
Drosera macrantha ssp.macrantha- Type
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2434/rimg0195yx4.jpg
Drosera huegelii flower- crappy.
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9199/rimg0199tk6.jpg
Drosera stolonifera ssp. porrecta "Southern Form"
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5658/rimg0201ue9.jpg
Stolonifera ssp.porrecta plant-
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4751/rimg0208ex3.jpg
stolonifera ssp.stolonifera plant.
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6103/rimg0209je0.jpg
And finally, Drosera menziesii ssp. menziesii the first tuberous species I had luck with, I got these as two tubers way back in 2002 and from then they have multiplyed to over 50 plants, not bad eh?.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7960/rimg0215bx5.jpg

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Yes the Pink Rainbow menzesii ssp menzesii is a good one to start with. I started with about dozen in 1999 I have now around 2000 - 3000 plants. I found average of 3.5 tuber per tuber planted, per year.

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Wow, nice. Got any photos of them in flower?.

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Do either of you have D. zigzagia in your collections. I recently saw pictures of this flowering for the first time a week ago from a collector here in Mlebourne. It has stunning yellow flowers.

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I wish I had zigzagia. It has yellow flowers? I thought only mooreii had yellow flowers in the tuberous sundews. I know it is very closely related to gigantea.David, Am looking for any photos of my menzesii. I will have them posted as soon I find them.

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Yeah it is one of the very few tuberous that do. They are a pale yellow but the number of flowers on a small plant is amazing.

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Is that ice/snow/frost in your stolonifera photo?

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Yes, I grow Drosera zigzagia. I will try and post a photo soon if I can get one.

I believe Drosera sulphurea also produces yellow flowers.

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No, it's sand.