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alpiner 29th May 2011 11:23 PM

'Multi growing point', to cut or not to cut
 
My N.Spectabilis Sibuatan and Sinabung from last group purchase comes with smaller companion. I purposely buried the smaller one when I potted them from Allen's box. But recently they emerge again. Is there any downside of keeping the smaller one? Should I just cut them?
Picture is better than thousand words, here you go...
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9657/spec2l.jpg

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/3017/spec1.jpg

jimmy0123 30th May 2011 12:45 AM

Re: 'Multi growing point', to cut or not to cut
 
Wow yours is in good condition. Mine is still the same like it gonna go at any time :sweating:. Both tips look good but IMHO suggest cut it to save more energy for the main plant.

alpiner 30th May 2011 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy0123 (Post 49236)
Wow yours is in good condition. Mine is still the same like it gonna go at any time :sweating:. Both tips look good but IMHO suggest cut it to save more energy for the main plant.

I may be wrong, but I believe they're from diff plant. The reason they're not separated is because both are too small. So I don't think it'll take out the main plant's energy. The reason I sacrificed the smaller one is to avoid potential deformation of the main plant, not that I'm even 60%-confidence it'll do that.
Anybody has left this sidekicks and still doing good?
Looks like they don't really like a lot of sunlight, even morning sun, as opposed to what I gathered from internet. And Sinabung is doing worse than Sibuatan. Do you hv the same observation? I just moved them to shadier area, with Sinabung getting lesser sun.

Robert 30th May 2011 08:39 AM

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where the offshoot emerge from the mother plant, i would made a small incision, wait for roots to form and finally cut and separate it... now u will have another plant...you can trade with me:smile:

edwardyeeks 30th May 2011 04:31 PM

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This has happened to my sibuyanensis too. Apparently, it doesn't seem to do the whole plant much harm. Mine definitely was a basal offshoot. I'm gonna leave it be, then when it gets bigger, I'll separate it. Gotta say, kinda surprised that neps at this size would have basals :smile:

alpiner 31st May 2011 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert (Post 49254)
where the offshoot emerge from the mother plant, i would made a small incision, wait for roots to form and finally cut and separate it... now u will have another plant...you can trade with me:smile:

Thx Robert. Learn something new today. This is great tips for offshoot, without needing to impact mother plant and rooting happens while under care of mother plant. Your 'incision', is it a slit(line), a slice(small area), or a deeper cut(beyond outer layer)? What's the size of the incision? And typically how long does it take for the roots to form from the incision? Sorry, getting carried away with info. :biggrin:
Btw, my N.ventricosa x ramispina has been soaked in water for 3 month without any progress. I did cut a 2-3cm slit at the bottom. Has been a looong wait, no root and shoots, but not rotting.
Anyway, for the companion for these N. Spectabilis, they are still too small to do anything. Assuming they're diff plant from my main, will the fight for root-space and air-space impact the growth?

alpiner 31st May 2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 49269)
This has happened to my sibuyanensis too. Apparently, it doesn't seem to do the whole plant much harm. Mine definitely was a basal offshoot. I'm gonna leave it be, then when it gets bigger, I'll separate it. Gotta say, kinda surprised that neps at this size would have basals :smile:

Lucky you. My sibuyanensis from last GP still not pitchering. Sloowwly producing healthy looking leaf. I think its gonna be ok.
Maybe I'll leave them for a month to observe further. Hopefully positive competition between the 2 push them to grow faster. :laugh:Wishful thoughts.

Robert 31st May 2011 03:35 PM

Re: 'Multi growing point', to cut or not to cut
 
[QUOTE=alpiner;49312]Thx Robert. Learn something new today. This is great tips for offshoot, without needing to impact mother plant and rooting happens while under care of mother plant. Your 'incision', is it a slit(line), a slice(small area), or a deeper cut(beyond outer layer)? What's the size of the incision? And typically how long does it take for the roots to form from the incision? Sorry, getting carried away with info. :biggrin:
QUOTE]

a deep "V" cut till the center of the stem (the pith). The duration of rooting will depend on the plant's health.

edwardyeeks 31st May 2011 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alpiner (Post 49313)
Lucky you. My sibuyanensis from last GP still not pitchering. Sloowwly producing healthy looking leaf. I think its gonna be ok.
Maybe I'll leave them for a month to observe further. Hopefully positive competition between the 2 push them to grow faster. :laugh:Wishful thoughts.

Heh, I burned my sibuyanensis under full sunlight the day I got it. Half the leaves started to brown after 3 days :spinning: but now it has made a new leaf and is on the way making another. :2thumbup:

alpiner 1st June 2011 10:57 AM

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[QUOTE=Robert;49318]
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Originally Posted by alpiner (Post 49312)
Thx Robert. Learn something new today. This is great tips for offshoot, without needing to impact mother plant and rooting happens while under care of mother plant. Your 'incision', is it a slit(line), a slice(small area), or a deeper cut(beyond outer layer)? What's the size of the incision? And typically how long does it take for the roots to form from the incision? Sorry, getting carried away with info. :biggrin:
QUOTE]

a deep "V" cut till the center of the stem (the pith). The duration of rooting will depend on the plant's health.

Do you leave the deep V-cut exposed to air, or wrap/cover it with sphagnum moss? In short, does it root without media?


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