New & already needing URGENT help for my D. burmanii
 

Hi, I'm Jessica from Ampang Jaya, Malaysia.

I got 1 from the Calvary Carnival about a month ago and it was growing beautifully almost a new leaf everyday and even had flowers (although I never got to see any of them when they open 1 by 1).


Problem was I was out of town for 3 days and instead of leaving it outside on my window ledge (where I normally put it during the day), I put it indoors (place where I thought it would get the most sunlight) and water. When I got back, it looks like it's rotting... bottom leaves reddish. There's been no dew and I think the leaves have stopped growing. :sad:

It doesn't look like it's going to make it with the rotting spreading... Anything at all I can do? Any one can help? :crying:


I've manged to take some photos last night... ah, problem loading... I've got it in my album... if you can take a look there, otherwise, I need to figure out the loading.. :(

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Dear Jessie,

Your Burmanii is dying for sure. After flowering, it is programmed genetically to die. So don't be sad. Use the seeds you got from the flowers to sow for next crop. If you didn't keep any or have died, pm me.

For now, just put the plant in a water tray. Should last for three days.

Have good trip.

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hi jessie

do not worry .. some of my burmanii still can survive even after they flowering. any link of your photo? i could not find here. a photo can explain thousands word

are you still using water tray method? your plant might need sometime to adapt back.

did you collect the seed from the flower?

hope your plant is ok

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mine have flowered countless of times and live. But you will also observe the plant shrinking in size.

Urgent help for my D. burmanii
 

Let me try and include the photo...

https://forum.petpitcher.net/picture....&pictureid=254


https://forum.petpitcher.net/picture....&pictureid=253

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Welcome Jessica. Another new member.

Normally, when a burmanii flowers. They are doom to die. But if you take good care of it and feed it with tons of insects, it may survive.

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Hi Aaron,

You mean it wasn't the over watering + lack of sunlight for 3 days? I thought that was it coz it was doing very well before and my place seems to be blessed with plenty of insects for it.

Oh dear... means I should have cut the stalk... :sad:

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Burmanii are annuals. They germinate, grow, flowers, then dies. So if you let it flower it will automatically die. But sometimes if you feed it tons of food, bright light, pure water, high humidity etc. it will survive for another year.

Re: New & already in need of URGENT Help for my D. Burmanii
 

Hi Aaron

If you do not let them flower will they continue to live??

Ken

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Jess,

I moved your message here from the introduction section as I think this thread should go under the Drosera boad. :) I've also merge the other new thread you created with this thread. Sorry, didn't tell you.

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Oh... OK. I was just confused when I didn't see it, being new to forums as well. Duh!

So, you think it's doomed as well?

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You can try giving it alot of sunlight and clean water, cut off that flower stalk and feed it when there is dews on the leaves. It might survive.

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ya david is right ... you have to cut off the flower stalk if you want the mother plant. Feed drosera when there is DEW. if still do not produce the dew, mean your burmanii still under recovering.

You can cut off the old & die leave.

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I'm not sure if I missed something here but, when you do cut off the flowerstalk I suggest the following:

1. Cut it off near the plant.
2. After that then you have the flower stalk with flowers right? Now cut off the stalk right near the first flower or bud.
3. The top part with buds and flowers, you put in a plastic bag and hope that they give you seeds, just keep it there for a week and then shake, if you see small black seeds (very small) congratulations.
4. The bottom part of the stalk, just the stalk, cut in maybe 1 inch length and put in sphagnum moss lying down. Why? Well I have not experienced myself, but maybe, just maybe they might germinate some plantlets. I will be making a new topic about it in the forum. But it works on Capensis at the least, no signs of it working on D. Spatulata yet though, maybe you get lucky with Burmanii. If you don't have spare container or medium, put them with the original plant.

All the above is to hopefully help you:
a. Keep your plant as others have adviced.
b. get some seeds out of your flowers
c. get some plantlets from flower stalk cuttings (dont' hold your breath here, it's an experiment).

Good luck!
TTFN
Arvin

Re: New & already needing URGENT help for my D. burmanii
 

Thanks guys! Funny enough... for some of the tips, I did just that when I went home last night... just thought I should do that based on experience with other plants... hehe...

I shall try my best and update if anything does come out of it. I shall go get some emm... peat moss thing later. Where to I put the stalk and seeds (if I have any at all)? Same place i used to put mother plant? Unfortunately that place can get very wet and windy... last night the tray filled up with rain water by the time I got home.

Thanks again for all the HELP! :smile:

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if your burmanii grow new leaf from mother plant. mean it can survive. for the flower stalk you may try as what arvin suggest. if from seed, make sure they are in black color. Then u can keep them or sow them with peat.

i not suggest seed sow in the mother plant pot. So you need give mother plant direct sun. sometime the water might flood and it make your seed gone. So you can take a "taufuhua" container ... mixed with peat and perlite then sow your seed. properly 3-5weeks you can see little babies :biggrin::biggrin:

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wow good stuffs here. My burmanii is having such problem now. Hope it can get through the process and survive. :P Thanks for the info.

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Yeah, I would like to suggest that the part of the flower stalk that had flowers be kept in a plastic bag (zip lock) or for me I put them in small plastic containers. I would shake them from time to time to see if there are seeds. When you see very small black seeds (they look very small though) then you sow them as edmund mentioned, separately in a container that you can put a lid on.

One thing I have learned is that you don't want your container with seeds to be rained on, too many things will happen, either seeds will be buried deep, or might get washed away or might bunch together, etc.

When you sow the seeds, just sprinkle them over the medium, you don't need to bury them at all.

Again do understand they are considered annuals, so if your mother plants does die, it's just their life cycle, grow some more with your seeds. :)

TTFN
Arvin

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Wowwee cool, so much more new advise over the weekend...

And to exhousted, hope you bhave better luck than I have. Mine is officially quite dead. It just looks like a lump of um... nothing much... I think can not be considered being slowly converted to fetilizer...

Ah yes, now the seeds. My bud are still looking quite green but I was taking Arvin's advise to put them into a bag, but before I did that, I sort of "dusted" it on a white piece of paper and I THINK some seeds came out... they look like small black dust... aiya, forgot to take picture again. Is that it? Anyway, put into a small translucent plastic bag already now.

OKie, now new dilemma... I'm going to be away for more than a week end of this month. I really want my seeds to grow but I'm scared I will kill them all if I don't give 'em the right conditions...

Would anyone in KL with experience be so kind to help with some... so that they WILL survive?

Btw Arvin, what's TTFN stand for? Any I was just looking at your list, you've got stuff from Japan? Cool...

Can we bring plants / seeds in from Japan to M'sia?

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If you want to try, make a propagation container (Tau hue or plastic container with medium) sprinkle some of the black dust seed you saw (yes I think they are probably seeds, I hope they are, and yes they are that small). Just a few for experiment, you should get some more when you get back from your trip. Sprinkle on surface of medium, medium should be quite wet, but not flooded. Then put in bright light but not directly light (still unsure what this means really, but I think it means maybe 30 mins to 1 hour of direct sunlight and mostly indirect daylight).

Hopefully when you come home you will have seedlings, if not then try again with your new seeds.

In Japan I am not sure how easy to find CPs, I have seen them in 2 stores so far only, both are in Kansai area (yes near Kansai airport). I have never seen seeds, mostly plants. I only buy them because I saw them and didn't have them in my collection. I only bring maybe 2 at a time and bring in my baggage. I live in Philippines, so can't say about how strict in Malaysia. Usually 1 or 2 plants is not so strict. I bring them home bare root with just moist tissue paper as medium. All of the ones that I bring from Japan have survived, but that is only a 5 hour trip. Frankly when you buy CP from Japan supermarket, it's the same as others, it's like a "rescue" because they don't get sunlight when being displayed.

TTFN means Ta Ta for Now, same as Tigger from Winnie the Pooh.

TTFN
Arvin

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Jessi, do you expose the sundew to rain ? if it`s in the midst of recovering, i would suggest you put some clear plastic over it. You know the clear rectangular plastic used to wrap around school books ? U can use it.

And as for your water tray, use a lower one so that the pot & plant doesn`t get waterlogged or flooded by the water level. All these things accumulate & add up to stress out the sundew.

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Thanks Tarence but unfortunately she's quite dead already. Of late the rain has been very heavy. I've got a round "pot" at the same place I put my burmanii filled with water for my Pegaga and baby Swordtails and it has hardly dried out and I think keeps getting filled, unlike the earlier months.

Anyway, I suppose I'll take the advise and try out with the seeds. Sphagnum moss izit? There were quite a number of different combinations in the various post. & need to get some sort of tray. I hope the area next to my window will be sufficient. Mother plant kinda died there... But that's the only area I can think of.

Really no one wants some of my seeds? I would rather some live than have them all die in my hands... eeps!

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Hi Jessilim, sorry that your plant died. Just sprinkle the seeds on Sphagnum Moss and make sure it gets bright sunlight and enough water. They should germinate in a few weeks. You don't need the tray. Just put a plastic tupperware(that kind when you take away food) that is bigger than the pot underneath it. And you can put the pot where your mother plant was growing and flowering. This time if they try to flower cut the flower stalk.

BTW sorry I don't need the seed. I already have 6-7 burmanii from seed. Maybe some other member.

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The pot I have is quite small, so good idea to recycle some old "tau fu fa" container or something like it... I do need to put some holes thru the bottom, right? Hmm... time to dig and spring clean the kitchen... haha!

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Don't put holes on under the plastic tupperware. The reason to use it is to water the plants from the bottom of the pot. If you put holes the water will flow out.

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Here are mine. I time to have them all flower at once. Harvested their seeds last week. The have already strunk so I have my replacement ready. However, this morning on closer examination, some are showing signs of recovery.

D burmanii Flowering next to it D Tokaiensis (Hydra- multi heads)
https://forum.petpitcher.net/picture....&pictureid=277


The tiny one in the middle seems hopeless. Compare the size is has strunk with the flowering picture (Pic 2). Few around it managed to push up new leaf (pic 3).
https://forum.petpitcher.net/picture....&pictureid=263

Pic 3
https://forum.petpitcher.net/picture....&pictureid=265

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Sorry, i meant I tot to use the plastic tupperware as flower pots, not as the bottom tray. That one will have to use even bigger tupperware or something else... hehe.

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Thanks Ban Aik for your photos. And ya, real big difference in size. You keep all of them together huh? The 1st picture looks crowded. That's a normal plastic pot (from any nursery, quite deep) that you're using, right? Pretty brave to let them all flower at the same time...

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Ban Aik is an experienced grower so he don't mind letting them flower all at once.

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Aaron, you're making me blush. I am just a beginner, still learning from sifus here. To be frank, I want them to die all at once so I can replant fresh. No point hanging bit here and there. Moreover it is pretty to have a flowering pot. My only regret is I was too busy to photograph the flowers.

Jessi, you're right that is a normal pot. Actually it was more crowded prior to it flowering. You couldn't even see the dark media at the bottom.

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I would be sad to see then all die... but then that's personal preference. They don't mind being all squished together? *Ya, like they will complain to you**Dud*

Flowers... ya, I didn't get to see even one. When do the flowers open? Very short period izit? Every time, all I get to see is another drooping bud. I presume that means it has opened...

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dont worry jessilim... if they die ... come and look at me .. i can spare to you with FOC.

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Thank Edmund, hopefully won't have to resort to that...

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They usually are open in the morning when the sun is up, closes towards afternoon. I only get to see the flowers on my off days.

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I can only see my drosera flowers on holidays or if I come back from school early. If I come home during about 3 pm the flowers are usually half closed.

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Darn... and I'm still sleeping on my off days... hehe...