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ahjin 3rd August 2010 11:32 PM

New bie with question
 
Hi all, I am new in this hobby (actually not into it yet :blushing:). I plan to get some drosera and vtf soon and I got a few questions here before I wet my hand on this *biggrin2*.

First, the media for cp, most of the info I found on the internet say mixture of peat moss/sphagnum moss with sand/perlite, but how actually I need to mix them? Just mix it directly or divide them layer by layer like putting media in a canister filter? Sorry, I know this question is stupid but I really never see a live cp before, I'd visited a few nursery here but no luck.

Compare peat moss and sphagnum moss, which 1 is better?

How long do I need to change the media?

Thanks.

piscesilim 4th August 2010 12:40 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
1) Just mix it. No need divided.

2) Not much different to Drosera and Dionaea according to my experience

3) Half to 1 year depend on your moss quality.

ahjin 4th August 2010 04:55 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
Thanks Prof Lim.

Can I use java moss as the media? Any recommended drosera species for a newbie?

piscesilim 4th August 2010 06:49 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
Better use sphagnum moss or peat moss. I never try Java moss. Don't know whether it is suitable for cp.

If you can provide full sun. D. burmannii, D. spatulata, D. intermedia is easy for beginer.

If your place is shade, you can try D. adelae.


* I am not a prof.

kevyn chan 5th August 2010 01:25 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by piscesilim (Post 31502)

* I am not a prof.

for us at least!!:tongue::lol:

paphioboy 6th August 2010 10:39 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
Hi from Penang.. :) FYI, there is a nursery selling CPs in Kuching, situated right beside the Sarawak general hospital.. forgot the name liao.. Its run by a Taiwanese guy.. Has lots of orchids and nepenthes in the front corner..

ahjin 10th August 2010 12:47 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
That's a great info! Thanks!

I will pay a visit to the nursery when I go back to Kuching.

NepNut 12th August 2010 03:17 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
I think he's Amos Yu... :smile:

emperorsnakehead 25th November 2010 11:06 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
hye there...
just wanna ask..
where can i get those media?
i live at putrajaya...
there are no nursery around here...so sad about that..:crying:

Harris Azariel 25th November 2010 11:10 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
buy at this Penang guy.good seller:1thumbup::1thumbup:

buy plants from him too!
https://forum.petpitcher.net/showthread.php?t=4195
https://forum.petpitcher.net/showthread.php?t=3965

emperorsnakehead 25th November 2010 11:18 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
oooh...thanks bro..
that 'Penang guy' live at penang or what?heheh..
coz maybe his name is so called 'penang' but he live at my place! who knows...
hehehe..*biggrin2**biggrin2**biggrin2*

if i want to but VFT, matured one, what is the cost?
and, the best price that i can get?ngee~*biggrin2*

Harris Azariel 25th November 2010 11:21 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
that guy name is piscesilim in here.his from Penang.

go ask LJ_Tan or Phangst for cheap mature VFT.

they sell usualy RM10-RM15.

emperorsnakehead 25th November 2010 11:24 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
I actually already bought 4 sets of VFTs..
but the problem is i'm too excited to see my seeds grow...
and i have read from other sources said that VFT that grow from seeds will take 1 to 2 years to grow maturely..omg..
:sweating:

emperorsnakehead 25th November 2010 11:28 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harris Azariel (Post 34433)
that guy name is piscesilim in here.his from Penang.

go ask LJ_Tan or Phangst for cheap mature VFT.

they sell usualy RM10-RM15.

wow...that is cheaper than i thought!:1thumbup:
good info..
but 1st i will try to find it around here...
if none is found, i will contact the persons u told just now..:smile::smile::smile:

Harris Azariel 25th November 2010 11:32 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
yea it take that long to mature but its fun when u watch it grow!

but a miracle happen on one of our forumer.grow VFT from seed mature only 1year lol...!
https://forum.petpitcher.net/showthread.php?t=2914

but usualy VFT from seed normally mature after 3-5years after germination if in vivo.vitro from what i heard just around 18months

emperorsnakehead 25th November 2010 11:49 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
vivo?vitro?
what is that actually?
sory..newbie question...har har har...*biggrin2*

emperorsnakehead 25th November 2010 11:56 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
http://www.justvenusflytraps.com/ima...e/vftseeds.jpg

my VFT seeds not look like this but it looks like a very thin, and long seeds..
is it VFT?

Harris Azariel 25th November 2010 01:05 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
yes thats VFT seeds.1-1.5mm

LJ_Tan 25th November 2010 02:52 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emperorsnakehead (Post 34434)
I actually already bought 4 sets of VFTs..
but the problem is i'm too excited to see my seeds grow...
and i have read from other sources said that VFT that grow from seeds will take 1 to 2 years to grow maturely..omg..
:sweating:


It' s goods to start from seed.
But if you want to start from seed, you must have 'patient' *biggrin2*

emperorsnakehead 25th November 2010 03:31 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by LJ_Tan (Post 34448)
It' s goods to start from seed.
But if you want to start from seed, you must have 'patient' *biggrin2*

my seeds actually look like this..is this seeds of VFT?

LJ_Tan 25th November 2010 03:42 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emperorsnakehead (Post 34450)
my seeds actually look like this..is this seeds of VFT?


Base on the link for the photo, it not VFT seeds. You purchase it from China?

emperorsnakehead 25th November 2010 03:48 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
no...i puchase it at cameron highlands, malaysia..
oh no..:crying::crying::crying:

allenphoon 25th November 2010 05:30 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emperorsnakehead (Post 34450)
my seeds actually look like this..is this seeds of VFT?

sorry, looks like you buy the wrong seeds, VFT seeds are small, and have shape more similar to diamond shape with shiny surface and black in colour

emperorsnakehead 25th November 2010 05:38 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allenphoon (Post 34467)
sorry, looks like you buy the wrong seeds, VFT seeds are small, and have shape more similar to diamond shape with shiny surface and black in colour

oh my god..
what have they done to my wallet?!!:spinning:
oh no..if the seeds grow to other plant than VFT, i will throw it away!
really disappointed..:crying::crying::crying:

LJ_Tan 25th November 2010 06:45 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emperorsnakehead (Post 34452)
no...i puchase it at cameron highlands, malaysia..
oh no..:crying::crying::crying:


You may have a look on the packing label, it's made in china.

I may attached the VFT seed photo for you to have a look.

Harris Azariel 25th November 2010 09:43 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
SRY ABOUT THE SEEDS.

Quote:

vivo?vitro?
what is that actually?
sory..newbie question...har har har..
vivo:
plant grow in normal media(soil)

Vitro:
plant grow in sterile condition(tissue culture which contains sterile gellyish media with minerals that speeds growth of plant)

LJ_Tan 25th November 2010 11:13 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by emperorsnakehead (Post 34450)
my seeds actually look like this..is this seeds of VFT?

This is the VFT seed.

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1290694365

tzestan 26th November 2010 12:03 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harris Azariel (Post 34436)
but a miracle happen on one of our forumer.grow VFT from seed mature only 1year lol...!
https://forum.petpitcher.net/showthread.php?t=2914

I don't consider it maturing yet...:) Traps are still much smaller than adult plant. Although it put up a flower stalk, it's probably randomly triggered. Aborted anyway. From the rate of growth... should take ~3 years to mature.

Harris Azariel 26th November 2010 12:18 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
well it flowered!
hope my seedlings will be lucky as urs haha!

emperorsnakehead 26th November 2010 09:03 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LJ_Tan (Post 34473)
You may have a look on the packing label, it's made in china.

I may attached the VFT seed photo for you to have a look.

yes..it have Chinese calligraphy on the pack..
so...what do you think about the seeds?
into what they will grow?:unsure:

emperorsnakehead 26th November 2010 09:17 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harris Azariel (Post 34483)
SRY ABOUT THE SEEDS.



vivo:
plant grow in normal media(soil)

Vitro:
plant grow in sterile condition(tissue culture which contains sterile gellyish media with minerals that speeds growth of plant)

thanks bro for the info..
i think both of them are good..

sooxiwei 26th November 2010 09:48 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emperorsnakehead (Post 34490)
yes..it have Chinese calligraphy on the pack..
so...what do you think about the seeds?
into what they will grow?:unsure:

Grow into trap fly instead of fly trap?*biggrin2*

there's pro and con of seed grown vft, if you bought seeds of vft typical, you might not be disappointed, but if you bought other variety one like red dragon, shark tooth and so on, chances are it will turn out to be a mix of different thing or might not even have what you want...

emperorsnakehead 26th November 2010 11:55 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
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here is the picture.. what do you think?
zoom it and you will see the vft picture and also the Chinese calligraphy written on it..

kevyn chan 26th November 2010 12:54 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
are you buyng premix seeds with growing media or what.....can you take a proper picture of the label at a different angle so that we can read it properly?:confused:

emperorsnakehead 26th November 2010 03:56 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
yeah...it is quite like that..
i will take another pictures, and with proper angle..ok..
i just wanna know if i buy the wrong seeds..:crying:

Harris Azariel 26th November 2010 05:15 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
i nvr see VFT seeds sold locally at nurseries.

emperorsnakehead 26th November 2010 05:28 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
and...what is that sign for?
so..they lied to me la?:spinning:
never mind..
MAHA...here i come!

Harris Azariel 26th November 2010 05:53 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
no no,what i mean is ur lucky to find VFT seeds at local stores.

may i knw hw much they sell per packet?hw many seed per packet?

emperorsnakehead 26th November 2010 06:04 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
they sell it RM8 each pack..
and RM20 for 4 packs..

each packet contain more than 10 seeds..
if the seeds will REALLY grow into VFTs, thank god..
:smile::smile::smile:

but if not, then i will see what is the plant actually..
i will take its picture and show it to this forum..ok..:smile:

sooxiwei 26th November 2010 06:13 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emperorsnakehead (Post 34546)
they sell it RM8 each pack..
and RM20 for 4 packs..

each packet contain more than 10 seeds..
if the seeds will REALLY grow into VFTs, thank god..
:smile::smile::smile:

but if not, then i will see what is the plant actually..
i will take its picture and show it to this forum..ok..:smile:

haha, hopefully they don't grow into trapless vft

Made in China, the best gift to your dustbin:tongue:

emperorsnakehead 26th November 2010 06:14 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sooxiwei (Post 34550)
haha, hopefully they don't grow into trapless vft

Made in China, the best gift to your dustbin:tongue:

:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:

made in china, and made in other countries, have differences huh?:crying:

sooxiwei 27th November 2010 01:23 AM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emperorsnakehead (Post 34551)
:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:

made in china, and made in other countries, have differences huh?:crying:

made in china but regulated by reliable com of other country, still passable, other wise, your dust bin will be happy to receive a gift:shy:

emperorsnakehead 27th November 2010 04:01 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
hey...one of my seeds have started to sprout...
even if it's not the plant like in the 'picture' og the sets, i will still take it's picture and i will show it here..:mad:

kevyn chan 27th November 2010 04:14 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emperorsnakehead (Post 34567)
hey...one of my seeds have started to sprout...
even if it's not the plant like in the 'picture' og the sets, i will still take it's picture and i will show it here..:mad:

wow! thats was "fast"!!!, germinated after how many days you sowed it? :1thumbup:

emperorsnakehead 27th November 2010 04:27 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
i think...about 6 to 7 days..:unsure:

emperorsnakehead 28th November 2010 01:24 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
this is how my seeds look like..
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6708/sam4202.jpg

this is the packet..can somebody translate the chinese calligraphy for me?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5946/sam4228.jpg

and this is my first seed that sprout yesterday..
you can see it, the green one...
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5419/sam4234.jpg

allenphoon 28th November 2010 04:08 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
well, congratz, it will be okay if you fertilize non-cp plant...since they are not cp plant...sorry

emperorsnakehead 28th November 2010 05:52 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
its ok...
i'll try to find one...

allenphoon 28th November 2010 11:13 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emperorsnakehead (Post 34588)
its ok...
i'll try to find one...

May i know if you prefer to grow them from seeds or plant?

emperorsnakehead 28th November 2010 11:17 PM

Re: New bie with question
 
i prefer growing them from plant...
i hate waiting for the seeds to grow..*biggrin2**biggrin2**biggrin2*


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