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allenphoon 6th April 2010 03:16 PM

Hey N. ampullaria
 
Hai, recently i was out of my mind and bought this little fellow, here come a question, can u all guess how much this cost??(Sorry, no price for the winner*biggrin2*)

If not mistakenly calculate, there got at least 3babies(4actually, but shoots rot already) and 3 mature plant together

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/CIMG7559.jpg
http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/CIMG7560.jpg

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/CIMG7561.jpg
see, small shoots coming out from the not-producing mature plant:sweating:


One more picture trying on air propagation method
http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/CIMG7565.jpg
Hoping this one will success at last....huh
But i was curious that why that stem of the plant did not produce any pitcher at all, i was found out that there were a scar(because someone bend the plant) and the another baby stem come out, could this be the main reason why the plant did not producing any pitcher at all?:spinning:
Kindly ask for any pro for answering my question.....
What medium should i using for this plant and what should i notice or have extra attention on it?? THanks!!!

marvin1997 6th April 2010 03:52 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Where did you buy this?? The basals look cute!!

allenphoon 6th April 2010 04:16 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
I buy near the nursery at my place, at first thought there were no other CP, but when i ask the owner, he say got one...but in bad shape, so i ask for a look, and what i found is that and i buy it cheaply, the original price is RM25

marvin1997 6th April 2010 04:22 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Wah..like that I also want buy!!

allenphoon 6th April 2010 04:25 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Haha...too cheap for you? The cost living in KL difference so the CP price also very high?

marvin1997 6th April 2010 04:29 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
No la... But RM25 for a amp that size!!

allenphoon 6th April 2010 04:31 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Hmmm.....u did not read my post er? I just said that original price is RM25....but the real price is more cheaper....Muahahaha

marvin1997 6th April 2010 04:34 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Wah...

allenphoon 6th April 2010 04:46 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Really....because the owner saying that it was in bad shape...even though i dunno what is he meaning....haha

marvin1997 6th April 2010 05:06 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
I think he mean the two 'sticks' xP

allenphoon 6th April 2010 05:10 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Porably.....just feel thankful because able to get this plant in cheap price....hehe

edwardyeeks 6th April 2010 06:08 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Amp rarely produces upper pitchers. They are well known for the basal pitchers that they make, and some people actually cut the main stem to encourage the growth of a large clump of ground pitchers. Maybe the plant wasn't given't the right condition so that it could produce pitchers on the stem. However, this plant looks quite healthy and you got it at a superb price, considering it is less than RM25. Best to repot it so that it gets more space to put up more basals and ground pitchers.

cbkhoon 6th April 2010 06:31 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
i am sorry to say that ur plant looks like poached from the wild, the leaves looks so long !!

allenphoon 6th April 2010 06:36 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 27735)
Amp rarely produces upper pitchers. They are well known for the basal pitchers that they make, and some people actually cut the main stem to encourage the growth of a large clump of ground pitchers. Maybe the plant wasn't given't the right condition so that it could produce pitchers on the stem. However, this plant looks quite healthy and you got it at a superb price, considering it is less than RM25. Best to repot it so that it gets more space to put up more basals and ground pitchers.

Okay....can i give it medium with pure sphagnum moss?



Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkhoon (Post 27736)
i am sorry to say that ur plant looks like poached from the wild, the leaves looks so long !!

Really? About that i was not so sure, just know that i bought i cheaply, don't know it can survive on my place or not...
Hope it can maintain....:biggrin:

edwardyeeks 6th April 2010 08:47 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Sure. Nep amp are very hardy, but if your area rains a lot and you are exposing the plant in open areas, you can use a mix of sphagnum and coco chips. Or peat moss and perlite.

marvin1997 6th April 2010 09:24 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Mine isn't very hardy...last time I forgot to water it and it stop pitchering:spinning:ouch.

allenphoon 6th April 2010 10:46 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Okay.....will report it after i get my new sphagnum moss supply, because i had almost use it up because of the Drosera and Utricula seeds...hope they will survive and bloom at my house....... =)

cbkhoon 6th April 2010 10:55 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
give it a wider pot, your ampullaria looks strong and should be ale to grow more basals, i suggest you can change to Baba HP-130 pot which has a plate attached..

Ampullaria seems to benefit from this kind of pot that can keep the moss always in wet condition. Shade the plant 50%, amp does not like too bright .

funkychips 6th April 2010 11:19 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
The basals look really good Allen! I think you can just cut off the long stems and wait for the basals to grow bigger. I grow mine in the terrarium in a shallow water tray. They really like a lot of humidity and moisture. They don't take too well to my garden though, which is a little unpredictable in terms of weather and air circulation. :spinning:

allenphoon 6th April 2010 11:31 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkhoon (Post 27746)
give it a wider pot, your ampullaria looks strong and should be ale to grow more basals, i suggest you can change to Baba HP-130 pot which has a plate attached..

Ampullaria seems to benefit from this kind of pot that can keep the moss always in wet condition. Shade the plant 50%, amp does not like too bright .

The bottom part when i can kept the water was using one of the product of the baba.....and i quite like that product also...haha, thanks for your opinion, i will try to make this enviroment for it*biggrin2*


Quote:

Originally Posted by funkychips (Post 27748)
The basals look really good Allen! I think you can just cut off the long stems and wait for the basals to grow bigger. I grow mine in the terrarium in a shallow water tray. They really like a lot of humidity and moisture. They don't take too well to my garden though, which is a little unpredictable in terms of weather and air circulation. :spinning:


Thanks funkychips, i was too dear of it....just hope that the air propagation method will work out so that i can have more plant and more plant for trade or sell(because i had almost used out my cash for many thing for the plant, wuhuhu:crying::crying:)

cbkhoon 6th April 2010 11:38 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
i wish to add that most Baba pots are good for neps, i personally like the HP series which has a small plate attached to it, it is useful for those who only can water the plants once a day before they go to work. And during raining season, the plate can be detached to avoid too much water.


just my 2 cents about potting

allenphoon 6th April 2010 11:46 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Using a water trailer is better or put it near lots and lots of tong which contain rain water better to increase humidity?

cbkhoon 7th April 2010 12:22 AM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
wide pot with moist moss is best

funkychips 7th April 2010 12:39 AM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Good tip cbkhoon, since it's scorching dry these few weeks...will get a few this coming weekend...:1thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkhoon (Post 27751)
i wish to add that most Baba pots are good for neps, i personally like the HP series which has a small plate attached to it, it is useful for those who only can water the plants once a day before they go to work. And during raining season, the plate can be detached to avoid too much water.


just my 2 cents about potting


cbkhoon 7th April 2010 12:44 AM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Baba got to pay me commision for promoting their pots... hahahaha

allenphoon 7th April 2010 12:59 AM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Oh......lucky you cbkhoon..because you got quite an experience on these....:shy:

Will try to change their medium to all sphagnum moss when i buy some sphagnum moss nearby my house area....:1thumbup:
Thanks again for the opinion!!*biggrin2*

NepNut 7th April 2010 01:30 AM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkhoon (Post 27759)
Baba got to pay me commision for promoting their pots... hahahaha

Haha... if Baba see how many baba pots I got... they'll sign me up as their spokeman... *biggrin2**biggrin2*

Seems like you got 2 vareities of amp there... kill 2 birds with 1 stone, nice... *biggrin2*

allenphoon 7th April 2010 11:41 AM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
two varieties? You sure? How can i define that there got two?? Asking for help here......hehe

kevyn chan 7th April 2010 11:46 AM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NepNut (Post 27764)
Haha... if Baba see how many baba pots I got... they'll sign me up as their spokeman... *biggrin2**biggrin2*

Seems like you got 2 vareities of amp there... kill 2 birds with 1 stone, nice... *biggrin2*

i thought that i am the only one who spotted 2 varieties of amps in one pot and this might be a leftover from the CNY deco. i've bought one pot of bonsai styled amp with so call a few basal shoots, they actually slot in a few different plants to make it look more bushier.....indeed at last i've got the pure green and the red speckled varieties in a pot.:tongue:

cbkhoon 7th April 2010 11:52 AM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
now only i can see u got 2 type in 1 pot, nepnut has sharp eyes

cbkhoon 7th April 2010 11:53 AM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
now only i can see got 2 type amp in 1 pot, nepnut is really nep nut !!!:laugh:

allenphoon 7th April 2010 12:39 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
so it is real? i thought that the pitcher were temporary not producing any colour pitcher, nvr thought that, wohoo.....one stone with two birds, hope this is true.... =)

edwardyeeks 7th April 2010 12:42 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
It's two birds with one stone :smile:. For me, amp pitchers and does well as long as you keep the media wet and humidity stable. If it flowers, tell us. Hee hee.....

allenphoon 7th April 2010 12:50 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Okay....sure, no problem, hope that the plant will kept healthy and will have flower soon.....hehe, but where can i find pollen? Wuhuhu...

NepNut 7th April 2010 02:00 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkhoon (Post 27777)
now only i can see got 2 type amp in 1 pot, nepnut is really nep nut !!!:laugh:

Haha... all due to intense training. *biggrin2* Now in a process of training to create hybrids... :laugh:

Ellen, if you want to flower the amps, you'll need to expose it to stronger sunlight, preferbly direct sunlight at this stage for it's vining stems and leaves. If you decide to do this (at your own risk), please do it step by step because the plants you just got was probably in a weaken stage and you need to nurse it back to full health before doing so. I think will probably take you another 3-4 months before you shd try what I suggested if you wanted it to flower. My tiny 2 cents... *biggrin2*

allenphoon 7th April 2010 02:30 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Then how about N. gracilis? what should i do so that it could flower?? Okay...i will help it steps by steps, i will protect it!!!:mad:*biggrin2*:mad:

NepNut 7th April 2010 02:58 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Most neps will flower after they reach vining stage (ie. producing intermediate / upper pitchers) provided they recieve ample sunlight and were in healthy condition. Stress also known to induce flowring but usually those flower will not produce strong offspring (seed/pollen) or the end results (seeds) might not be viable.

allenphoon 7th April 2010 03:46 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
But strangely, my N.gracilis never have it's pitcher changing....all it were produce was just same type and small pitcher only even though i keep it in good condition that i can provide.....

edwardyeeks 7th April 2010 04:56 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
N. gracilis usually has small pitchers. Maybe you need to expose it to more sunlight and repot the plant.

Aliamyz 7th April 2010 04:57 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allenphoon (Post 27787)
But strangely, my N.gracilis never have it's pitcher changing....all it were produce was just same type and small pitcher only even though i keep it in good condition that i can provide.....

Then it is uppers Allen...you got some huge amps there..good luck!:1thumbup:

allenphoon 7th April 2010 08:53 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Hmm.... but i think i would not able to reach high pitcher because i usually found it on the mountain.....temperature problem!!!

allenphoon 7th April 2010 11:24 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Just report this evening and captured some picture, post up for sharing:shy:
i found out that it's roots were very shorts, hoping it won't kill them...i re potted them with sphagnum moss with some pebbles with it(did not have money for buy perlite at ace:crying::crying:)
Just like what Nepnut were said, there were two species in the pot, and i had split them into three pots, hoping each of them to survive...:1thumbup:
http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/CIMG7567.jpg
pitcher one

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/CIMG7568.jpg
closer look up

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/CIMG7569.jpg

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/CIMG7570.jpg

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/CIMG7571.jpg

This all....got problem please correct me....i will water them 2times a day...hope it won't rot...wuhuhu:crying::crying:

cbkhoon 7th April 2010 11:29 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
if u have altered the root, i suggest u keep them shaded 50% , and water once enuf

allenphoon 7th April 2010 11:54 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
altered? what is the meaning? sorry for weak grammer.....

caseyhoo 8th April 2010 09:18 AM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
The so called "pebbles" in the photo is 1 type of stone that will increase ph... So, it is not suitable for most of nepenthes, except for few sp. like N. northiana... Advice you take out all of them...

allenphoon 8th April 2010 10:50 AM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
But if i take it all out, what will left just sphagnum moss....will it do?

caseyhoo 8th April 2010 10:55 AM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allenphoon (Post 27859)
But if i take it all out, what will left just sphagnum moss....will it do?

Yea... ampullaria love wet media... So, suppose no problem.

allenphoon 8th April 2010 12:32 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Okay。。。will take them out this evening.....hope that i won't give much shock for them...Haizzz

marvin1997 8th April 2010 06:52 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
Lucky you.Two species in one pot

allenphoon 8th April 2010 08:08 PM

Re: Hey N. ampullaria
 
marvin-yup....got three plant after repot....
casey- remove pebbles already...hope it will survive


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