New cuttings
 

Hi guys.....Well im kinda and sick/not well soo i have nothing to do at home...Just to waste some time i decided to try and cut some of my neps and try to make cuttings out of them..So far i've not been lucky with the cuttings except 1 ventrata so now im trying again....I have a big pot filled with peat/perlite so my as well just use it instead of leave there..

I cut of 4 vines....They are gracilis/viking and 2 ventratas...I'm really worried bout the gracilis cos its stem is SUPER THIN!!!:spinning::unsure:

Here are some pics of the 4 of them
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/m...s/RIMG2470.jpg

Chop...
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/m...s/RIMG2471.jpg

The loads of extra peat
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/m...s/RIMG2472.jpg

And the cuttings in they're new home
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/m...s/RIMG2473.jpg

Ken

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ken, have u try to propagate them using water tray method? I have some ventrata waiting to try, i need to make sure the success rate is high b4 i dare to cut, I have lost some xmiranda for the last few months, only 1 cutting survived.

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Hi Ken,
Normally I'll cut away 2/3 of the leaf to minimise the respiration, or else the stem dry out quickly which resulted in lower success rate. Place the pot in a bright spot, keep it humid and water every day.

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Hi CBK....I've never really tried the water method......And TS thanks for the advice...I already cut half of the leaf of but the picture was taken before i cut them off

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Good luck Ken, don't worry about the gracilis, they're super tough :laugh:

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Hi guys....At the beggining of August i added 1 more cutting which is an albo penang red...

Now After 1 month + out of the 5 cuttings 3 have rooted....2 of the ventratas have quite a lot of roots and the albo which is about a week younger then the other cuttings is already showing tiny roots...As for gracilis it doesn't look good...Viking cutting is still healthy but no roots...

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Don't worry bout them Ken.Just put them in shade until the new shoot grows.All my viking and gracilis cuttings never fails to root for me especially the ventrata.

When rooting neps,remember only one thing.DO NOT MOVE THEM OR DISTURB THEIR ROOTS.You don't need to pull the plant out to see whether the it has rooted or not instead you can see when they grow new leaves.(which shows they are roooted)

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Yes I agree with Aliam, actually I was going to ask you ken, how do you know that Ventratas have rooted, and some has small roots! You pull them out don't you? :( :)

If I were you, I stick the cuttings in the potting mix, and let them be, you know that they have established, once they produce pitcher, or at least 2 new full leaves. Do not observe them too much or else you disturb them too much and you might kill them.

You realize that most nepenthes do not like their roots to be disturbed some species are so sensitive that even an established plant might die because the roots were disturbed. I think Bicalcarata is one of these at the least. There are other species too.

ken if you disturb your cuttings again, I hit your hands with a stick! hehehe! :) joke of course!

TTFN
Arvin

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Hahahahaha well the curiosity in me was too strong and it took over...Yea i know about not touching them..Muahahahah albo penang red coming soon...

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Have you guys heard a private grower killed his old rajah when he repotted it?I believe in US.

These species dislike their roots to be disturbed:

bellii
bicalcarata
rafflesiana (they will stop pitchering but will grow healthily)
villosa

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I thought ALL nep hate to have their roots disturbed:spinning:.....Good luck in your cutting though!

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Ali,

you know that info will also be quite useful in our nepenthes database, we should add that type of info if a species or hybrid is known to be sensitive to root being disturbed.

Marvin, I'd say in general yes, but there are species that are just too sensitive that disturbing them might kill them. I know for a fact that Bicalcaratas are very sensitive. Some of my Alatas does not seem to be too bothered. The main symptoms are lack of or very slow new growth. Cuttings are probably doubly more sensitive to root being disturbed.

TTFN
Arvin

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Oh okay....thanks:laugh:

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Sure Arvin.Just a thought, we can't list species specifically unless some are really sensitive.My point here is we can't state a species that it's not sensitive to root disturbance as generally all neps are sensitive to root disturbance.

I think we should open a new thread in nepenthes database to show the cultivation guide and there we will include the sensitivity of neps towards root disturbance.What do you say?

.My bicalcarata took 2 months to recover just because i straighten up the growing point.:mad:

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Good point. Generally speaking, one should try not to distrub the root too much when repotting, if you're repotting to a bigger pot, it better just to remove the whole plant with it's old media intact and transplant the whole thing into new and bigger pot. Plants transplated this way will usually just keep on going.... for most of the species/hybrids anyway.

For newly accquired plants, most likely the roots were already disturbed especially those coming from overseas due to packaging and regulation. For this case, after repotting, it's better to bag it up and place it in a shaded condition with indirect sunlight (no direct sunlight even under shade cloth) to minimize the stress and let the plants recover faster. This process will take about 1 ~ 2 months depending on it's original condition and the hardiness of that particular species/hybrids.... It's better to wait for the new plants to at least grow 2-3 new leaves before moving it to your regular growing area. That's what I've been doing and I seldom have plants died from transplant shock... maybe 1 due to negligence... :crying:

My tiny 2 cents... *biggrin2*

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I agree Ali, well actually if a species is known to have a highly sensitive root, then we just mention it. No one has made a Bicalcarata cultivation guide though, so we can't put that in yet, and I am not experienced enough to make a Bical cultivation guide. :(

I agree with nepnut about repotting, I do exactly that, I'm really paranoid with root sensitivity.

I have a Bical x amp I forgot, anyway it's a bical hybrid, that looks like it might have inherited it's Bical root sensitivity. :(

TTFN
Arvin

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eh.....I buying bical bare-rooted from lau.....oh great!zzzzzzz

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Don't worry too much, Bicals usually recover, though a bit slow. I had 2 bicals that died, maybe from having disturbed roots (bare root purchase) or some other reason that might be my fault. But as mentioned by other members, if you do have a Bical and it was bare root shipped, pot as soon as possible and Bag, to give it the best chance of recovering quickly. The bigger the plant the better chances of recovery. I got a "Large" sized Bical and it recovered in a month or so, but I did not take any chances with that, it went in a bag.

TTFN
Arvin

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I've never thought that bicalcarata is picky when it comes to root
disturbance, this is the first time i've read about this. I've often read that
northiana is the picky one. Wow, its great to learn new things everyday.