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« Thread Started on Oct 11, 2007, 3:52am »
This is N. truncata squat x Trusmadiensis
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...p1010085-4.jpg


This is a thorelii x TM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...p1010099-1.jpg

Each shows considerable TM characteristics.

And a N. ventricosa x TM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...p1010091-2.jpg

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« Reply #1 on Dec 9, 2007, 3:17am »
Hey, bring back the pics!
So which species makes the best match for TM?
This clone of truncata x TM looks pretty good to me:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...M/P1070065.jpg

or do you like the contrast in this clone better?
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...M/P1040290.jpg

This plant is starting to increase in size now that it is inside my greenhouse, so I'm eagerly awaiting the new pitchers. Here's an old one that looks pretty good:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...M/P1060024.jpg

At this point I think I like ventricosa x TM a little better. This red clone is starting to look a little darker:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...M/P1070066.jpg

and this old thin black clone hasn't really wowed me lately:
previous:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...M/P1000674.jpghttp://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...M/P1010451.jpg

current:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...M/P1060683.jpg

But it is this last one I almost traded away that has really impressed me!
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...M/P1060691.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...M/P1060690.jpg
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« Reply #2 on Dec 9, 2007, 3:21am »
I wonder if those last 2 you posted are the same clone as this, with less light:
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« Reply #3 on Dec 9, 2007, 3:22am »
Steve, how are your sibu x TM's doing? Mine didn't like the heat at all, but now are getting nice growth again with the winter cold.
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« Reply #4 on Dec 9, 2007, 5:02am »
These are all seed grown, so they aren't the same clone.

Sib hybrids don't do well for me outdoors, but they are already doing better with 1 month in the greenhouse.
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« Reply #5 on Dec 9, 2007, 5:19am »
Do you have a 'Jungle Bells'? Mine are FINALLY pitchering for me and plants are putting on some nice size. I think this plant 'requires' greenhouse conditions with high humidity. Here's an old picture; it hasn't pitchered since this photo, but it's starting to put on a show now!
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I have it on the floor of the greenhouse where it gets a cold draft at all times (I have openings along the greenhouse floor to let in the draft; I think this is beneficial to many highlanders, especially at night).
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« Reply #6 on Dec 9, 2007, 5:33am »

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I have it on the floor of the greenhouse where it gets a cold draft at all times (I have openings along the greenhouse floor to let in the draft; I think this is beneficial to many highlanders, especially at night).

It's true. In the wild plants constantly get bath in cold moisture laden air and moist everything that came into contact. Dews form on plant leaves and moist the forest floors. This natural phenomenon occurs more often in the highlands due to the mts elevation and the low moving clouds.
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« Reply #7 on Dec 9, 2007, 5:46am »
Thanks for that info Robert. I have recently tried something new in the greenhouse: I used to run a humidifier all day, and off at night, but i started thinking this was an unnatural cycle. About 2 month ago i switched to running a fog all night, and off during the day. For daytime humidity i just rely on evaporation from basic watering. i don't know if this is the cause, but along with our cold nights lately, all of my plants are looking VERY happy.
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« Reply #8 on Dec 9, 2007, 9:52pm »
Hi,
here is my sibuyanensis x TM
I love the fat pitcherform

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« Reply #9 on Dec 10, 2007, 1:36am »
Very nice Jens...this is not the easiest Nepenthes to grow. You will see larger pitchers as long as your conditions remain stable.

Here's last year's growth for me:
http://nepenthes-shop.com/documents/P7095656.jpg

http://nepenthes-shop.com/documents/sibxtm1.jpg

Since I live in desert conditions, I lost all pitchers last summer, but the plant is springing back with a vengeance with this cold we are having now.
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« Reply #10 on Dec 10, 2007, 3:30am »
I find sibuyanensis liking a lot of excess moisture.
The sib x TM hybrids seem to adjust to heat and drier air, but yes, they really like the moist wet conditions best.
So far the best TM hybrids are all of them. Each has their unique characteristics and offer the TM heavy pitcher/ribbing. But if I had to choose one it would be N. thorelii x TM because of the quick growth and colorful pitchers this combination offers.

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« Reply #11 on Dec 10, 2007, 4:38am »
My favorites are all of them too. I can't pick just 1.
I couldn't wait to photograph these 2 new pitchers of N. (thorelii x maxima) x TM:
http://nepenthes-shop.com/documents/PC096354.jpg

http://nepenthes-shop.com/documents/PC096356.jpg

http://nepenthes-shop.com/documents/PC096358.jpg
Joel, still no signs of basals or offshoots. As you can see the plant is climbing to the roof of the greenhouse. It's so tough I can't guide it horizontally...as soon as it realizes there is no more room to grow up, I am hoping it send out a side shoot.

N. maxima-dark x TM:
http://nepenthes-shop.com/documents/PC096355.jpg

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This doesn't belong anywhere but I kind of liked it:
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« Reply #12 on Dec 21, 2007, 11:09am »
Sorry, I forgot to post the final shot of this pitcher. I love this plant so much!
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« Reply #13 on Dec 23, 2007, 11:31pm »
This pitcher is even larger than either the N. thorelii x or N. maxima x TM hybrids. Good overall proportions.
My clone of this hybrid is somewhat more squat even on its uppers. I'll try and get some shots out soon.
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« Reply #14 on Jan 4, 2008, 1:35pm »
The latest emerging upper on my thorelii x TM:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...M/P1070154.jpg

Exceptional color on the ventricosa x TM:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...M/P1070160.jpg

and a strange bulbous base developing on a truncata x TM:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...M/P1070159.jpg

(The previous pitcher looks similar but I didn't really catch it at this angle):
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...M/P1070158.jpg

I love the way these hybrids are constantly evolving as they progress towards upper pitchers.
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« Reply #15 on Jan 5, 2008, 11:19am »
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...p1010087-1.jpg
This is probably my best colored N. thorelii x TM hybrid to date. But recently I came across a fabulous thorelii x TM with grand uppers which I'll take pics of soon. For me this hybrid seems to do the best with new pitchers being produced at the rate of three per months!

I also like N. sibuyanensis x TM as well.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...y/p1010090.jpg
Slower grower for me, but I really like its compact pitcher to leaf ratio.

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« Reply #16 on Jan 6, 2008, 4:41am »
that thorelii x tm is incredible! I need to find one of those some day
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« Reply #17 on Jan 6, 2008, 5:40pm »
Ludwig, I really liked the photo of your N.maxima-dark x TM. Mine has produced 4 pitchers and the last is starting to show some shape . I,m amazed at how short a time it takes to get its colour compared to a lot of other plants.
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« Reply #18 on Jan 6, 2008, 6:51pm »
Thanks Peter...here's a few more shots.
http://nepenthes-shop.com/documents/...2edit_text.jpg

http://nepenthes-shop.com/documents/PB186291.jpg

http://nepenthes-shop.com/documents/PB186287.jpg

http://nepenthes-shop.com/documents/PB186272.jpg

http://nepenthes-shop.com/documents/P9146123.jpg

and i guess this is an intermediate pitcher:
http://nepenthes-shop.com/documents/P8216007.jpg
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« Reply #19 on Jan 6, 2008, 7:06pm »
Thanks heaps, if mine looks half as good as yours I will be happy, we are having a very mild summer at the moment so everything is still pitchering. I quess the 40 degree days will hit us soon....
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