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adilevi424 18th September 2008 04:03 AM

my setups
 
few versions of my old setup(I'm going to dismantle it and replacing it with a new terrarium-sth like the one at the end of the thread)

my first


http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/963/img0588qr2.jpg

the second one i built (bigger one)
I am putting here hose for the fogger

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9135/img1868xu3.jpg

after i finished it looked like that


http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2516/img1884oz9.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5317/img1875sr9.jpg
I added two of the last setup so I'l have bigger space for the new one.
this is the last one (I must say ,I dont reccomend this kind of setup for nepenthes -it's to small,once they get big you have a problem).


http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1484/img2498cz0.jpg


http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8195/img2499gh2.jpg

adilevi424 18th September 2008 04:32 AM

Re: my setups
 
This is my new project(ultra highland setup)
I am going to build the same without the cooling system for the rest of my planets( for replacing my grow chamber)
The building
I used polystyrene for the frame.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3103/img2631mi4.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3194/img2637zq3.jpg

that's the results.
after that I went to the carpenter and made the tracks for the glass.
I bought the glass in the measurements I needed.
and finito ( the terrarium measurements are 110 L\70 W\100 H)
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2226/91546908fj0.jpg

now for the cooling system
my uncle helped me to build this(basically we build a refrigerator)
the parts left to right(compressor \fan\not sure what the name{heat sink or cooling ribs}

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2456/img3602nz7.jpg



cooling plate
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/46/img3601pq4.jpg

at the end

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3325/img3611ct9.jpg

the cold plate

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/1354/img3612ar4.jpg
the one thing left is
1.to get my planets (hopefully this weekend)
2.need to buy lights(if you have recommendation pleas advice)

TS 18th September 2008 12:59 PM

Re: my setups
 
Woah Adi,
Look like a big project!!! One question: can the polystylene support the heavy glass?
It's interesting to see it work! Keep us updated Adi, thanks for the thread.:1thumbup:

David 18th September 2008 01:37 PM

I love to see people's projects. So interesting.

In the first picture, on the right of the grow chamber, is that a humifyer? And you use hose to channel the humid air into the chamber? Looks cool.

I think I'm gonna start looking for an old refrigerator compressor. :laugh: You give me hope that this can be done and it looks like something that I can afford. I've always wanted to grow highlander such as N. macfarlanei, N. vilosa, N. burbidgeae, N. rajah, N. veitchii (highland), N. ramispina, N. sanguinea, etc. No doubt we can still grow N. sanguinea and maybe N. ramispina in lowland conditions but they will not reach their full potential. I want huge gigantic pitchers!

Hmm, if I build this like how you do it, I might need to build a wooden frame for the sides and back or else my son will be picking on the polysterine until there is a hole in it. He's already doing it to the piece of polysterine at the bottom of my glass terrarium.

TS,

I think the polysterine can hold the weight. It looks quite thick. Only worry is if somebody knock hard on the polysterine and break it. That might give way to the glass above.

Adi,

How will you be placing the lightings? Hung from the ceiling or on top of the glass?

Quote:

Originally Posted by adilevi424 (Post 3890)
2.need to buy lights(if you have recommendation pleas advice)

Looking at the height of your set up, I think the plants would be about 30 inches from the lightings? My recommendation would be to get metal halide.

Tarence 18th September 2008 01:53 PM

Re: my setups
 
hi Adi

thx for sharing with us your project...very interesting. i see sarracenias, a ping, some neps, what else is there ? i can almost make out a cobra lily. are there any vfts or sundews ?

David, if you try it, just build one tier so that your highland neps potentially can have a huge happy place to grow. Lets see those highland neps pitchering in your condo man.

adilevi424 18th September 2008 03:44 PM

Re: my setups
 
TS
Quote:

Originally Posted by TS (Post 3898)
Woah Adi,
Look like a big project!!! One question: can the polystylene support the heavy glass?
It's interesting to see it work! Keep us updated Adi, thanks for the thread.:1thumbup:

the polystyrene his in high density and his width is 5 cm
so he can hold the weight.
david
Quote:

In the first picture, on the right of the grow chamber, is that a fogger? And you use hose to channel the humid air into the chamber? Looks cool.
yes it is,I used ac hose(the one that drains the water)

Quote:

How will you be placing the lightings? Hung from the ceiling or on top of the glass?
I have a problem with this (if you look close at the pictures with the terrarium ,you will see that the ceiling have a slope(hope its the right word) ,so I have only 40 cm free space above the terrarium.
what mh do you recommend 250 or 400 w
my concern it will fracture the glass because of the heat,so I will might putt 4 t5 lights of 55 w(what do you think about this lighting setup)?
Tarence
I don't have vfts or sundews right now.
I am getting my highland nep this week ,hope they will survive the trip.

Aliamyz 18th September 2008 03:48 PM

Re: my setups
 
Nice setup Adi,
Hope your plants will arrive safely!

kentosaurs 18th September 2008 08:41 PM

Re: my setups
 
Hi Adi,

Nice setup....Whats the sarrcenia species on the 4th picture on the top row of your rack??????

Ken

adilevi424 18th September 2008 09:37 PM

Re: my setups
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kentosaurs (Post 3937)
Hi Adi,

Nice setup....Whats the sarrcenia species on the 4th picture on the top row of your rack??????

Ken

I have this sarrcenia
minor Okefenokee giant
flava atropurpurea var. rubricorpora
leucophylla(pure)
purpuera
catesbaei
leucophylla(hybrid don't now with what)
and the one you referring is this leucophylla
(after I putt it out side its started to have more color)
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7152/img3377yc3.jpg

David 18th September 2008 10:04 PM

Re: my setups
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adilevi424 (Post 3914)
I have a problem with this (if you look close at the pictures with the terrarium ,you will see that the ceiling have a slope(hope its the right word) ,so I have only 40 cm free space above the terrarium.
what mh do you recommend 250 or 400 w
my concern it will fracture the glass because of the heat,so I will might putt 4 t5 lights of 55 w(what do you think about this lighting setup)?

You're right, MH can get really hot and that 40cm free space might not be enough space. Might cause the glass to fracture. Hmm... Or you can place a table fan to blow across the top glass and the MH to remove the heat from the lighting? I'm just worried that the distance between the lighting from the plants is a little too far if you use T5. Maybe place more than 4 T5, but I think you'll have to test it through trial and error.

adilevi424 19th September 2008 04:55 AM

Re: my setups
 
thanx I boght mh 250 W .
I will test it and will upload some pictures of the all setup

adilevi424 23rd September 2008 06:43 AM

new terrarium + new plants
 
http://adilevi424.pic.co.il
new photos from page 3 new terrarium+ new planets
my highland terrarium finished
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...4/IMG_3622.jpg

Nepenthes aristolochioides
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ochioides1.jpg

Nepenthes ephippiata
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ephippiata.jpg

Nepenthes flava
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...nthesflava.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...thesflava2.jpg

Nepenthes glabrata

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...esglabrata.jpg

Nepenthes hamata clone 4

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...mataclone4.jpg


http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ataclone42.jpg

Nepenthes inermis
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...esinermis1.jpg

Nepenthes jacquelinae.

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...acquelinae.jpg

Nepenthes macrophylla

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...acrophylla.jpg

Nepenthes truncata reddish leaves

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ishleaves4.jpg

Nepenthes veitchii Batu Lawi

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...awiBorneo1.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r.../orderAW08.jpg

this I got by mistake ,I am sure some people here will kill for tenuis(by the way I returned it )

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...4/IMG_3617.jpg

malowie 26th September 2008 04:42 PM

Re: new terrarium+ new planets
 
all the best in raising your seedlings.. they look healthy =)

shawnintland 26th September 2008 07:12 PM

Re: new terrarium+ new planets
 
Adi - The new terrarium looks GREAT! I see you solved the hanging light problem! And it appears you'll have it filled up in no time at all! Have fun with all those new species!

NepNut 26th September 2008 09:19 PM

Re: new terrarium+ new planets
 
Nice setup and good selection of plants to start, keep us updated with the progress, all the best !!

alienfx 27th September 2008 11:04 AM

Re: new terrarium+ new planets
 
Great set up.So honest of you to return what is not yours.:1thumbup:

harlem2347 29th September 2008 10:41 AM

Re: new terrarium+ new planets
 
:wub:Wow…your CPs look so cute and healthy..good job….:1thumbup:

Aliamyz 3rd October 2008 09:50 AM

Re: new terrarium+ new planets
 
Wow so beautiful species that we Malaysians can't even imagine of having one.
I'm going to build an highland terrarium this year..

adilevi424 23rd October 2008 04:34 AM

Re: new terrarium+ new planets
 
just finished upgrading my terrarium

added waterfall

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...4/IMG_3924.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...4/IMG_3925.jpg

link to short film
http://s486.photobucket.com/albums/r...t=MVI_3928.flv

Jonathan 23rd October 2008 09:33 AM

Re: new terrarium+ new planets
 
Hello Adi...

Nicely done... i love your setup...^^ keep it going and keep us update with your HL neps...

Take care and have fun...

Regards
Jonathan

kentosaurs 23rd October 2008 09:55 AM

Re: new terrarium+ new planets
 
Nice setup Adi Great Job!

Ken

Aliamyz 23rd October 2008 10:42 AM

Re: new terrarium+ new planets
 
Where's the nepenthes?

harlem2347 23rd October 2008 01:37 PM

Re: new terrarium+ new planets
 
Adi..good job...very nice terrarium...:1thumbup:

What is the background that in brown colour?? Is media or just decoration?? :confused:

adilevi424 23rd October 2008 05:10 PM

Re: new terrarium+ new planets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliamyz (Post 6134)
Where's the nepenthes?

for the construction I put them out.


harlem2347
Quote:

What is the background that in brown color?? Is media or just decoration?? :confused:


its media ,coconut fibers
you can see in this picture basically how I made it (filler foam and glow the coconut with silicon
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...4/IMG_3897.jpg

harlem2347 23rd October 2008 09:04 PM

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OIc...Adi...thanks ur info!! :smile:

Why dun try plant the CPs on that coconut fibre without pot?? like that look more natural....:tongue:

powersensor 23rd October 2008 11:59 PM

Re: new terrarium + new plants
 
Wow. Great setup. Sticking pots on the background for plants is a bit unnatural looking but helps greatly in holding your plants in place. But I guess you can just glue some coconut peat on the pot to fully camouflage it.

Aliamyz 22nd April 2009 09:44 PM

Re: my setups
 
Guys,

What is the fuction of the cooling plate?

adilevi424 23rd April 2009 02:44 AM

Re: new terrarium + new plants
 
Hi Ali

the cooling plate connected to the compressor (the heart of the system)
the compressor compares gas through the pips and the cold plate and by that freeze them. the result is refrigerator.
the system works great for me , a week ago the temps where above 30 c, reaching probably 40 c. and the temps in the terrarium where 17 day 11 night.

I will try to make it more clear tomorrow

marvin1997 9th May 2009 06:28 PM

Re: new terrarium + new plants
 
Any progress?

adilevi424 9th May 2009 07:40 PM

Re: new terrarium + new plants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marvin1997 (Post 15938)
Any progress?

progress in what the plants or the system?
the system is up and running more then a year you can see in this video links
setup video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsYzjASKYJw
waterfall+fogger working(you can see the cold plate on the right) and the temp 15deg C(the temp out side is around 28)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woo3ldoivGc
some plants pictures
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQTpHv-q6A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK0Zox_Gsok

Adi

robthered 16th November 2010 04:51 AM

Re: new terrarium + new plants
 
Is the compressor and cold plate you're using from a fridge or a freezer?

adilevi424 22nd November 2010 01:33 AM

Re: new terrarium + new plants
 
not really,bought all parts and weld them all together
but you can use this parts from freezer or refrigerator

Adi


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