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edwardyeeks 17th December 2008 10:45 PM

Re: Random Balcony grown Pets
 
Speaking about northiana, where can I get course clay?

Cheers

Robert 18th December 2008 08:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 9985)
Speaking about northiana, where can I get course clay?

Cheers

where hillsides were cut during road widening works, after a heavy downpour the eroded coarse clay are deposited on the foot of the enbankment. They're yellowish red to brown.

erosion along road bank
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSC_0124.jpg


clay deposits
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z.../DSCN3842a.jpg


low nutrients content-only pitcher plants, terrestrial orchids,ferns and other plants associated with this soil composition adapt and grow. Pitcher plants are often among the very first to appear. An example here are reinwardtiana ( green and red varieties). There are ampullaria,gracilis, neglecta and kuchingensis found in this location.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSC_0199.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSC_0233.jpg

kentosaurs 18th December 2008 09:03 AM

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Hi Robert

Nice pics......What do you think about those striking orange ground which are normally found on hills which i saw in a small hill?? There are many ferns growing there but no neps or orchids since its full of condominiums there.That small tiny bump has a power line at the top of it.But do you think those can be used to? No pics of it but i'll try to take some since its nowhere near my place.

Ken

edwardyeeks 18th December 2008 12:45 PM

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Ohhhh.......and I thought i had to buy them.

So is it possible to obtain course clay at construction areas? Basically speaking, areas where house development are being done but the land hasn't been flattened yet.

Cheers

Robert 18th December 2008 01:18 PM

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Ken, peninsular and Borneo has similar soil structure. The soil you mentioned would be clay. After you have collected rinse them off fine particles.

Edward,you can buy them in nursery, either burnt or unburn form. construction site where soil are clay in nature would be a good place to collect.

Aliamyz 18th December 2008 05:16 PM

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Guys,
I was thinking if we can use sand for nep mix.Sand is really good drainer.

alienfx 18th December 2008 05:40 PM

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River sand can be used Ali.Avoid those sands with high mineral contents.

Aliamyz 18th December 2008 08:45 PM

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OK James...thanx for helping;)

edwardyeeks 18th December 2008 10:09 PM

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Ok, thanks for the help, since I have a construction area near my place, might as well go there and collect some course clay.

After all, it is free..........:)

Cheers

kentosaurs 18th December 2008 10:10 PM

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Yep agreed edward....Careful to not take too much after the whole hill dissapear haha.......

Ken

isaacgoh 19th December 2008 01:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eboat (Post 9724)
Awesome N. northiana! Do you have a tip? and how old are their?:smile:

Dear eboat,
I think I have mentioned before in my older Northiana threads how I grew them if you are looking for tips.
They are about 2 years old grown from a cutting.

isaacgoh 19th December 2008 01:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nbatp (Post 9980)
I like northiana very much. It is hard to grow? What the media is?

It's not hard to grow, but it requires patience to find the right place and environment to suit it. I'm talking about a plant grown from cutting. However, I noticed my seed grown northiana is less fussy, pithers readily even from small.

I'm using coarse burnt clay from the nursery mixed with some coarse pebbles. Btw, my potting mix was taught by my sifu Robert.

isaacgoh 24th December 2008 11:59 AM

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This is the biggest Northiana pitcher I have so far, 6" which just opened last week, picture taken this morning.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...DSC00566_r.jpg

alcran 24th December 2008 12:16 PM

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Wow, beautiful. That is a great pitcher.

kentosaurs 24th December 2008 12:44 PM

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Wow........Anyone can compete for that northiana's size??? Isaac how old is the plant about how tall??? Well they all seem to grow to giant sizes in the wild O.O

Ken

edwardyeeks 24th December 2008 01:51 PM

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Wow, nice northiana. Your peristome looks a bit too elongated, or is it just me??

Cheers

edwardyeeks 24th December 2008 01:51 PM

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Whoops, sorry

Jimmy 24th December 2008 02:08 PM

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I'd kill for a N. northiana like yours! :p Lol!

Seriously, that is a very nice plant, and you are growing it very well! Keep up the great work!

:1thumbup:

isaacgoh 24th December 2008 06:07 PM

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Thanks for all your kind comments.

I'm just happy to see the plant growing steadily. Occasionally, some pitchers are fatter, some are more elongated, this is the first elongated pitchers that I see so far.

Can't wait to see it grow till 1 foot. *just being too greedy*

edwardyeeks 24th December 2008 08:08 PM

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Hehehe.......thats call hope and desperation, isaac. :tongue:

Wish your northiana is healthy!

Cheers

plantlover 24th December 2008 10:53 PM

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OMG!! That is a very gorogeous northiana. I'll get that, lowii and khasiana when CNY comes.

kentosaurs 24th December 2008 11:18 PM

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Man aaron and edward should have the award for advancing to the difficult neps to cultivate in a couple of months.

Ken

isaacgoh 27th December 2008 02:25 AM

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Award for attempting to grow N. Lowii in lowland Malaysia? More likely to have a D. cert for the poor plant.

Warning: Lowii = Super Highland Plant, check the altitude where the plant is found.

plantlover 27th December 2008 11:02 AM

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Never mind lah. I'm trying to grow difficult highlanders.

kentosaurs 27th December 2008 01:20 PM

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LOL

Aliamyz 27th December 2008 06:17 PM

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I heard Fauzi had succesfully grow lowii in LL conditions and it pitchered too but i never seen one in his nursery though.

edwardyeeks 27th December 2008 06:53 PM

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I think I saw his lowii before, but I am not sure, forgot. I think I will get lowii, burbidgae and other neps. ;)

My terrarium is just superb for such plants.

Cheers

kentosaurs 27th December 2008 07:22 PM

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Edward just try being cautions ( very caution :D when growing this guys)

Ken

edwardyeeks 27th December 2008 07:25 PM

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Ok, advice taken! Back to the topic, until now, I drool over the northiana!!! Why must God create such magnificence to make us lust???? It seems soooooooo addictive, as if this plant was a drug.........like Helen's Nepenthe............bleahhhhh :)

I shall get a northiana! Is perlite necesarry in northiana's potting soil?

Cheers

Aliamyz 27th December 2008 07:35 PM

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I like mirabilis x northiana though but the plant is really gorgeous.

Edward,
It's ok as long the media has drainage.

isaacgoh 27th December 2008 10:39 PM

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Perlite is not necessary for Northiana but it will be useful.

So far, people who used coarse red earth has great success with it. Sphagnum is not desirable for Northiana.

kentosaurs 27th December 2008 11:25 PM

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Well so is peat moss....Sphag and peat will stunt growth of N northiana.

Ken

Jimmy 28th December 2008 09:11 AM

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A top-dressing of sphagnum works well for my small N. northiana, but my mix is composed entirely of aggregates (charcoal, arcillite, and bark). The sphagnum top-dressing encourages pitcher inflation and increases humidity, but I would not recommend sphagnum in the soil mix.

Noobplant 4th January 2009 04:39 PM

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there's nothing wrong with spaghnum.... im using it but my north still grows normally... except for the pitchers which is a humidity problem...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1076/...c90a3a105c.jpg


tendrils that dont land on spaghnum dont inflat or may become deformed.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1166/...30e11e786d.jpg


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