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kevyn chan 22nd April 2010 09:39 PM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
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Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 28421)
Not necessary, Marvin. Nepenthes are humidity lovers. The higher the humidity usually, the more better they grow. For growing highlanders, humidity is one of the MOST important factors. I noticed that my rajah, burbidgeae, maxima and veitchii highlanders didn't really seem to have problems when I forgot to put iced bottles in my HL terrarium set up last time, but one day, when I was testing out my humidity by opening all my terrarium holes.....WHOOSH. Within two days, all my HL neps started to go into suspended growth, with burbidgeae dead first.

I notice though, that lowii is rather picky about temperature. Rajah and maxima can still pitcher under lowland conditions but burbidgeae and veitchii didn't pitcher at all, though they still put out some leaves. Lowii was the first HL nep to die in my terrarium :sad:.

All in all, a HL setup is much more easier if you have high humidity or you can provide it, if you have cooler nights and if you stay in a landed house. Believe me, condos can be very dry and hot during the afternoon.

so which one died first? burbidgaea or lowii?:confused:

marvin1997 22nd April 2010 09:40 PM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
it's enclosed tho...Well next time if I am stinking rich and can buy a hamata

edwardyeeks 22nd April 2010 10:32 PM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Lowii first, followed by burbidgeae, followed by rajah, followed by veitchii. My maxima till now, still alive. But stuck in a suspended animation :sad:

kevyn chan 23rd April 2010 11:08 AM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 28429)
Lowii first, followed by burbidgeae, followed by rajah, followed by veitchii. My maxima till now, still alive. But stuck in a suspended animation :sad:

too bad then...your setting didnt work out as a H/L terra:crying:

NepNut 23rd April 2010 02:30 PM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Technically speaking, only those setup that utilize somekind of cooling (to maintain below 27C during daytime and achieve minimum 12C or more temperature drop during night time) can be consider as true H/L setup for those H/L nep species and hybrids.

So by only using natural cooling (passive cooling), the most that we can achieve in tropical weather is probably barely close to intermediate level.... Couple this with constant high humidity, it's possible to keep those less finicky H/L neps and most intermediate some what OK but to get it to fluorish (healthy growth, getting nice pitcher to leaves ratio and flowering) is probably very difficult under such condition.

That's my humble view... :shy:

kevyn chan 23rd April 2010 03:26 PM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NepNut (Post 28440)
Technically speaking, only those setup that utilize somekind of cooling (to maintain below 27C during daytime and achieve minimum 12C or more temperature drop during night time) can be consider as true H/L setup for those H/L nep species and hybrids.

So by only using natural cooling (passive cooling), the most that we can achieve in tropical weather is probably barely close to intermediate level.... Couple this with constant high humidity, it's possible to keep those less finicky H/L neps and most intermediate some what OK but to get it to fluorish (healthy growth, getting nice pitcher to leaves ratio and flowering) is probably very difficult under such condition.

That's my humble view... :shy:


robert, you have any H/L and share with us your growing condion?:shy:

i have in mind to actually obtain a second hand f&n drinks chiller like the one you'll see in 7eleven to start a intermediate/ H/L neps project but how many plants u can stuff in? lightings? electricity bill? haiz...just go on and dream la.:tongue:

NepNut 23rd April 2010 03:31 PM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Like you, I also dreaming about having a H/L / Intermediate setup... *biggrin2*

edwardyeeks 23rd April 2010 05:48 PM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Fauzi once did a HL setup to keep some true ultra HL neps, such as hamata. He simply used styrofoam box with ice bottles.

kevyn chan 23rd April 2010 05:58 PM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 28447)
Fauzi once did a HL setup to keep some true ultra HL neps, such as hamata. He simply used styrofoam box with ice bottles.

if the setup has been successfully keeping ULTRA HL NEPS, why not yours? setup error or human error....sorry for asking bluntly as i treasured each and every plant of mine, rather than killing them and wasting money, i rather not to have them at all cost. i think everyone here would much agreed with me or otherwise....more comments are welcome guys.

edwardyeeks 23rd April 2010 07:34 PM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Technically, as long as the terrarium can hold coolness and humidity, there isn't much of a SETUP error. I lost my plants because of HUMAN error. Oh, by the way if any of you are planning to use styrofoam boxes, don't remove too much of the box. What I mean is that you cut some parts of the box and instead stick it with plastic to allow light in. If too much of the box is removed, it will lose the capability to keep the temperature lower. It becomes less of an insulator.


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