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Ifurita 25th April 2010 01:30 AM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 28429)
Lowii first, followed by burbidgeae, followed by rajah, followed by veitchii. My maxima till now, still alive. But stuck in a suspended animation :sad:

Just my take on these species, at least in my experience:
maxima - By far the least cranky of those listed, this one and many of its hybrids can survive and pitcher in lowland conditions. Never had one go into shock before, so not sure about recovery.
veitchii - Even the H/L Veitchiis are not that temp cranky. Smaller or no pitchers if humidity is too low though. Can take a long time to establish, especially if humidity is too low, even the L/L ones.
rajah - This one is strangely heat and humidity resistant when young. With slight cooling, I've never had problems with this one. It even seems to recover from shock quite quickly.
burbidgeae - I've managed to get mine to adapt to an air-con room's crap humidity without any covers/shelter. It even pitchers once in a while. Why once in a while? Because its a very, very slow grower...but at least that means the pitchers last a long time too. I think it doesn't like changes in its growing conditions and takes it very badly, but can be slowly adapted.
lowii - I've had strange experiences with this one. Even from different sources, all the plants I've tried always grow straight to the brink of death...then recover, either via a basal or a lone surviving growing tip. The surviving plant then grows quite slowly, but seems to be able to adapt to air-con humidity. Is probably like burbidgeae in hating a change in growing conditions.


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Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 28447)
Fauzi once did a HL setup to keep some true ultra HL neps, such as hamata. He simply used styrofoam box with ice bottles.

Just my opinion, but to me hamata isn't an ultra HL nep, the lower end of its alt range is only 1400m. Also, its not very demanding temp-wise. Now villosa, that's ultra HL. The distinction between HL and ultra HL may not be a good indication of things either, some ultra HL neps seem less temp cranky than certain HL species. What did happen to Fauzi's hamata tho? Did he manage to get it to produce uppers?

edwardyeeks 25th April 2010 09:43 AM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
It wasn't Fauzi's, he was keeping it for someone to come and pick it up. Thanks for correcting me about hamata's range.

Robert 2nd May 2010 01:55 AM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Good try kevyn. Intermediate and H/L neps will pitcher in an enclosed setup with the help of high humidity. A drop in temp at night and high humidity will help to produce bigger pitcher.

see my post
https://forum.petpitcher.net/newthrea...postthread&f=6

TEYSH 3rd May 2010 11:30 AM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Dear Keyvn

I plan to start off soon and will use following method
a ) a Pump with mist nozzle ,releasing mist every 10 minuets or so with harvested rain water and pump control by electrical timer
b) plant placed at shedded area

And I will buy some pots and propagate form there ,will there be viable ?

if too much humidity ,will harm the plant?

In the past I had tried to propagate but all falied ,and due to lack of knowledge
after visiting this site , not that simple as I thought

Hope to see results as from now

TEYSH 3rd May 2010 11:40 AM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Dear Keyvn

I plan to start off soon and will use following method
a ) a Pump with mist nozzle ,releasing mist every 10 minuets or so with harvested rain water and pump control by electrical timer
b) plant placed at shedded area

And I will buy some pots and propagate form there ,will there be viable ?

if too much humidity ,will harm the plant?

In the past I had tried to propagate but all falied ,and due to lack of knowledge
after visiting this site , not that simple as I thought

Hope to see results as from now

kevyn chan 3rd May 2010 12:10 PM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TEYSH (Post 28736)
Dear Keyvn

I plan to start off soon and will use following method
a ) a Pump with mist nozzle ,releasing mist every 10 minuets or so with harvested rain water and pump control by electrical timer
b) plant placed at shedded area

And I will buy some pots and propagate form there ,will there be viable ?

if too much humidity ,will harm the plant?

In the past I had tried to propagate but all falied ,and due to lack of knowledge
after visiting this site , not that simple as I thought

Hope to see results as from now

hi teysh,

hmmm.....have not tried this setup though however just to remind that the media should not be waterlogged and over shaded area is also no good for the plant. what species are you planning to get? i think a picture or a project draft will enable the experts here to give some proper advice...i am just a beginner and not in the position to give you any comments.

Vincent 9th May 2010 03:06 AM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Im sorry to burst your inventive bubbles guys, but your set ups are just too complex, and maybe to small for what you’re growing..All you need is an atomizer, and a couple of long water trays with chicken mesh wire on top. Put the pots on the mesh, so when you water them every other day the water can pool = some humidity. Its paramount that you have them in an east facing window, so they dont get burnt. If you really want to do your plants a favor,like i did, get an atomizer. mine was $200, worth it? hell yes. its the finest mist, and they can,depending on the model, easily fill a 10 x 10 room, like mine, with 1000 parts per million of mist. This set up is exactly what i have, and i grow ultra highlands to semi-lowlands, all together, no special attention for just one plant, they all get the same treatment, living harmoniously......you dont need a fancy set up guys to grow ur precious highlands......just a little investment, and some space. My 2 cents.

Vincent 9th May 2010 03:10 AM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
lol oh yeah, was reading about someone using mist nozzles every 10 min or something, you dont need to mist them that much! my atomizer has a switch, so i turn it on and off. If lucky, my plants get an atomizer mist once a day, rarely twice, and my plants are golden. It wouldnt hurt the plants to be constantly wet,maybe, but it doesnt hurt them to get just 1 mist a day, helps demote fungus......lol

TEYSH 10th May 2010 10:08 AM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent (Post 28907)
lol oh yeah, was reading about someone using mist nozzles every 10 min or something, you dont need to mist them that much! my atomizer has a switch, so i turn it on and off. If lucky, my plants get an atomizer mist once a day, rarely twice, and my plants are golden. It wouldnt hurt the plants to be constantly wet,maybe, but it doesnt hurt them to get just 1 mist a day, helps demote fungus......lol

Thank you very much for the useful information , being first timer ,I am wondering a lot
perhaps should stick your method ,sound simple enough

Vincent 12th May 2010 02:33 AM

Re: simple setup for H/L neps
 
Glad i can help, what plants are you going to be growing? My idea is that you should start out with one or more of the following: Nepenthes ventricosa or hybrids, nepenthes x lady pauline, nepenthes sanguinea or hybrids, nepenthes spectabilis, and get some cape sundews. They look the best with many nepenthes; i collected some seeds a while back, and sprinkled them in every pot, now they are like little weeds =P But if u want a little variety, go with the capes..once they start to grow, they spread like wild fire, and are easy to take care of.


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