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jimmy0123 3rd October 2010 07:45 PM

General knowledge about Ping.
 
Hi everyone. I got a flowered P.Tina a few days ago and was wondering anyone can provide a general care for this species like light, water, dormancy etc... Greatly Appreciate ur help

jeff 4th October 2010 05:46 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
it is an horticol hybrids

normally a calcareous substrate like their parent

a very good light but not inevitably the sunshine

watering all the 15 days or on a month ( by capillarity )

actually in dormancy no watering , keep just the substrate slightly wet .

jeff

jimmy0123 4th October 2010 08:32 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff (Post 33440)
it is an horticol hybrids

normally a calcareous substrate like their parent

a very good light but not inevitably the sunshine

watering all the 15 days or on a month ( by capillarity )

actually in dormancy no watering , keep just the substrate slightly wet .

jeff

I currently using water tray method and giving it full sunlight. Is this ok or should i partially shade it ?

piscesilim 4th October 2010 08:37 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
Our full sun is too hot for Mex. Pings. I suggest you give it 70 % shade. You can let it to sit on water tray. But the water level must be low. 1 cm should be ok.

jimmy0123 4th October 2010 09:25 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by piscesilim (Post 33443)
Our full sun is too hot for Mex. Pings. I suggest you give it 70 % shade. You can let it to sit on water tray. But the water level must be low. 1 cm should be ok.

Ok i try this out first. I put it in full sun for few days and the leaves somewhat soft n bendy like not its usual stiffness (lol not sure my explanation is good or not). Thx for suggestion

jeff 5th October 2010 07:04 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
yes in shade or with a morning sunlight ( always less hot here in europe)

for me do not keep the mexican ( or hybrids) ping stagnate in the water , between 2 watering always keep the substrate dry .

and make to them a dormancy

jeff

jimmy0123 5th October 2010 08:31 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff (Post 33455)
yes in shade or with a morning sunlight ( always less hot here in europe)

for me do not keep the mexican ( or hybrids) ping stagnate in the water , between 2 watering always keep the substrate dry .

and make to them a dormancy

jeff

I saw some people use mostly like rock for medium to keep it dry is that ok cause now im using sphagnum moss? How do u handle Ping. dormancy? What are the sign and what should i do:confused:

jeff 6th October 2010 12:04 AM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
I use for all my mexican ping ( eventualy the hybrids ) a mineral substrate ( the base : clay and limestone) just to have a good draining , for them the air hygrometry ( 70-80%) is also more important .

sphagnum moss ( hydroponic substrate) or blond peat is just a horticutural substrate for the hybrids or some others , attention to the rot with this substrate .

to have a dormancy on the mexican keep them from 10 to 12 °c ( may be difficult in your country) from november to may often in dry condition

for the hybrid you can see the dormancy when they reduce their leave and when they become succulent ( often without 'mucilage' )

jeff

piscesilim 6th October 2010 12:55 AM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
I am using 2 part perlite : 1 part sphagnum moss as substrate. No dormancy since 2008.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...m/DSCN9606.jpg

Harris Azariel 6th October 2010 02:17 AM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
is that around the size of a 20cent coin?

piscesilim 6th October 2010 02:36 AM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
Yes. Some are bigger.

Harris Azariel 6th October 2010 11:46 AM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
can those guy survive rain?

piscesilim 6th October 2010 12:53 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
No. If heavy rain.

jeff 6th October 2010 02:49 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
what species or hybrid ? x'Florian , debbertiana - jaumavensis - ehlersae have you some flower ?

for me it is a hydroponic substrate , 'in situ ' the substrate is quite different *biggrin2*

the dormancy is necessary for a lot of plant , otherwise they would wither .

here for the mexican ping the succulent stage are necessary for them like 'in situ'

some of mine in mineral substrate actually not in dormancy

http://pinguicula.free.fr/ping2010bis.JPG

jeff

jimmy0123 6th October 2010 03:45 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
Got a question. I put Ping in full light but the leaves like not sticky anymore to trap insects. I saw a few ants running around happily on it like mocking at my face :glare:. Can it due to strong like that like dry up the sticky substances? And the leaves look kind of wilted as well mayb not enough water? (i do put in water tray though)
Here is the pic (shld hv posted earlier sry :blush:)
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...3/P1010724.jpg
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...3/P1010750.jpg

piscesilim 6th October 2010 05:21 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
They are P. ehlersiae. I have P. 'Florian' and P. jaumavensis as well. Still got no flower. I used to try 100% inorganic media. But the plants were not doing well.

I think tropical climate won't trigger Mex. Pings to dormant. At least for my plants. Let's see how they doing after several years.



Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff (Post 33484)
what species or hybrid ? x'Florian , debbertiana - jaumavensis - ehlersae have you some flower ?

for me it is a hydroponic substrate , 'in situ ' the substrate is quite different *biggrin2*

the dormancy is necessary for a lot of plant , otherwise they would wither .

here for the mexican ping the succulent stage are necessary for them like 'in situ'

some of mine in mineral substrate actually not in dormancy

http://pinguicula.free.fr/ping2010bis.JPG

jeff


piscesilim 6th October 2010 05:31 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy0123 (Post 33486)
Got a question. I put Ping in full light but the leaves like not sticky anymore to trap insects. I saw a few ants running around happily on it like mocking at my face :glare:. Can it due to strong like that like dry up the sticky substances? And the leaves look kind of wilted as well mayb not enough water? (i do put in water tray though)
Here is the pic (shld hv posted earlier sry :blush:)

Put it under 70% shade. It will produce dews again.

jeff 7th October 2010 05:04 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
a nice x'Tina':1thumbup:

I am OK with PISCESILIM keep it in shade , but also the 'mucilage' often is the result to the temperature difference's from day to night, it is also a lead


PISCESILIM

in your country What are your outside temperature mini ?

have you the possibility to keep these ping between november to may in 10-12°c ?

jeff

piscesilim 7th October 2010 05:54 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
The lowest temperature is 23 °C during the raining season. But usually is 25-26 °C. The maximum temperature is 36-37 °C. I can't provide temperature as low as 10 °C.

My P. gypsicola and P. 'Florian'.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...m/DSCN9729.jpg

jeff 8th October 2010 04:19 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
it 's a pity :1thumbup:

nice picture

jeff

ulat 8th April 2011 03:08 AM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by piscesilim (Post 33464)
I am using 2 part perlite : 1 part sphagnum moss as substrate. No dormancy since 2008.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...m/DSCN9606.jpg

eeeee!!! among all ping, this is the type I like most!! saw 'em once in a friend's house, till now I still miss that little cutie pie of hers :shy:

jeff 8th April 2011 04:16 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
some of my mexican ping 'ex situ'

http://pinguicula.free.fr/ping2010.JPG

http://pinguicula.free.fr/ping2010bis.JPG

in mineral substrat

jeff

Harris Azariel 8th April 2011 05:09 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
nice Jeff!!
why is all your plants look so marvelous??

i love the first pot on the left of the first row the most.what ping is it?

rhodelta 9th April 2011 02:18 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
Wow, Nice pings you have there. Hope I can have one soon. :)

jeff 9th April 2011 03:20 PM

Re: General knowledge about Ping.
 
merci

for me the substrat and their cultivate condition are the raison .

here it is the last period outdoor , after all are in door in dormancy ,dry or lightly wet.

all these specie flowered not in the same time , a lot of them have 5 years .


in the second picture the plant in the first raw at left is a P .ehlersae "tolontogo"

jeff


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