Pitchers getting smaller
 

:sweating:There is this nep i bought sometime ago and the pitcher are dried up within a month.Well,i thought the new pitchers produced should be much more bigger in size but little did i know it came out so small :spinning:Any advice would be much appreaciated=)

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I think the problem is low humidity. But since your plant is starting to give you new pitchers, just leave it alone. It is trying to acclimatise itself to your growing environment. It will slowly produce bigger pitchers for you. Perhaps you could water it more and make sure the media is drench each time. The mistake is to keep shifting it around trying to get a perfect place for it. The plant will be stressed up trying to keep acclimatising itself.

Nepenthes do not like changes to their environment. It will be fine. However, I picture will go a long way in helping us figure out what's wrong with it.

By the way, what species did you get? If it is N. xventrata, the pitchers get smaller as it vines.

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Hi kit1212,
Depending on the nep species you're growing, sometimes it'll take a nep to produces a few leaves and pitchers before it is fully acclimatise to your new growing condition (sometimes this process will take a few months). As long as the successive pitcher is bigger compared to the earlier ones, you're on the right track... *biggrin2*

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I find this happens to just about all th enew Nep's that I get. It is a reaction to the stress associated with moving. I find that my plants always lose their pictures fairly quickly. Soon after the plant produces pictures smaller than the original ones but then they gradually increase in size as the plants acclimatize.

I wouldn't be to concerned about your plants especially as it is now picturing for you.

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Hai Kit1212,
Well,like the others has said.Your plant is still acclimatizing it self to its new enviromant.Just give it time and the most important is be patient,as long as all the conditions are right for your plant,it will reward you with a big,healty and beautiful pitcher just for you and for us to admire it...

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Hi all,
Since Kit1212's Nep problem seems to be similar to mine, I thought I might want to raise a question concerning pitcher size. If, instead of putting out bigger pitchers the plant does the opposite? I have albomarginatas and sanguineas experiencing this problem. Their pitchers get progressively smaller and stop growing altogether. I would not think full sun is the best solution as mirabilis is sitting next to them which is receiving full sun. I have even repotted them in media of different composition and wetness. The result is just the same. My 2 albos perished within a year. The plants just shrink with each progressive leaf. Same goes for amps which I have given up trying as well after 5 attempts. I know there is no direct solution to this problem but hopefully there is somethingthere that I haven't noticed or tried. Thanks in advance!!

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klt212, what nep is giving you problems?

funkychips, i'm not sure why amps are giving you problems, i find that they do grow well in shady, very humid conditions and with lots of water. i had albos giving me problems too but i've found that they grow better with a drier media, but keeping the environment humid to keep the N. albo pitchering.

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Thanks for the info Hongrui!
I suppose humidity, time and again, is indeed the culprit to my failure in growing amps. Therefore I think the only solution is getting them to grow in enclosed environment, like in a tank. The only thing I don't understand is where some humidity-loving plants can still grow well in my garden. Plants like moss and ferns grow like weeds and phalaeopsis orchids seem to do well too.
Oh well, exceptional circumstances can limit the plants you can grow :crying:

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Hi..Well for me now amps i just got it but long maybe about a month back from Fauzi...It came bare rooted and it didn't even show any signs of shock...Immediately after i pot it in a week or 2 later a pitcher grew..Though its not as big as before but well i don't expect much from a nep which is still adapting..As for albo i don't get bigger pitchers than 2-3" but its growing ok for me....Mine is grown and watered like all my other neps....I don't see them very fussy about humidity.

Ken

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Hi funckychip,

I suppose if u can grow N. mirabilis, u shouldn't have trouble growing N. ampullaria. Like N. rafflesiana, the above mentioned nepenthes species along with N. gracilis do occur naturally in L/L condition in Peninsular Malaysia.

If a nep produce pitchers that's progressively smaller or stop pitchering, then something is not right. As growing condition is different for everyone, it's hard to pin point what's wrong based on the info that you've given so far....

Anyway, don't give up !! *biggrin2*

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Hi cpnut!
Thank you for the advice and encouragement :biggrin:. I think I will try another plant again but not anytime soon, as I want to try my hands on other CPs. I seem to have wasted alot of money trying so many times to grow amps. Also, it is not only ampullarias, but also bicals and for a good 3 years now, a hirsuta that is growing but failing to pitcher. As for mirabilis, I am quite astounded as it has not been repotted for almost 6 years already and yet new shoot after shoot has been growing out of the plant. Gracilis and Miranda as well. Rafflesiana is pitchering annually, meaning it only pitchers in flushes at certain time of the year, while rest of the time all I see are only tendrils and leaves. The strange thing I notice (you may think I'm crazy *biggrin2*) are that those plants not doing well in my garden are those with mostly hairy leaves ie: hirsuta, ampullaria, albomarginata, veitchii pink - never pitchered and leaves growing smaller. I don't know what that means but I thought it be worth mentioning to see if there is a catch there...

List of other Neps not pitchering/perishing in my garden include:
bical (8 years, still no pitcher :( )
reinwardtiana (died after six months)
alata (now pitcherless, I cut back the mother stem and 2 basals have sprouted, but not growing any faster)
ventrata (a good standing 5 years lifespan, offshoots and all)
sanguinea (the plant persisted over a period of 4 years all the while growing smaller and smaller - the exact case of Benjamin Button *biggrin2*)

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Sry,for the late reply.I'm doubt that my nep is still acclimatizing to the environment as i got this nep which is N.Miranda few months back.After reading few threads concerning pitchers gradually becoming smaller i may guess humidity is the main cause.On the other hand my nep is flowering profusely.Any idea?

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Maybe your xMiranda is stressed.Neps flower when they stress.:confused:

It is flowering profusely because you might have been changing the growing spot for it too often.:unsure:

Keep it one spot where it get at least 10 hours of sunlight and it will eventually produce monster size pitchers for you.:1thumbup:

Hope this helps!

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Hi kit1212,
I tend to agree with Ali here, it's usually stress related when a nep flowering profusely. It might be due to environment related stress or combination of a few things. It's actually quite common to have newly acquired neps to produce flowers after just a few months growing and especially it's a plant grown from cutting.

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I went to a nursery today and it actually made me laugh...I saw this miranda and it has no pitchers...At first i saw the long flower standing staight and oh well normal sight since they flower when stressed...Then i looked closer it has shoots coming out from 4-5 nodes along the stem quite new shoots and 2-3 of them were flowering haha....So many flowers..

Ken