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kentosaurs 24th November 2008 06:30 PM

A cry for.....HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hi everyone

Well few months back i got a N bical from Robert........Came in preety good conditions and 1 pitcher bare root......That pitcher now has become cirspy dry but its shape still remains....weird........:unsure:

Anyways it took about 1-2 weeks for the bical to start showing a little signs of growth and then after a while it just took off.....with a big leaf......measuring around 20cm or 8" which is way bigger than all the other leaves...It also has a nice looking light brown tendrill and and after that growth just stoped!!........Well technically not stoped cos i can see a new small little leaf forming under the new leaf......But the speed of its growth like suddenly stoped.....not as fast as it was forming the new leaf..

I grow it at the bottom of the rack which is considered the darkest part of the whole rack considering it is covered by N miranda....But it still has a little direct sun some time of the day......This is a pic was where i put it when i just got my rack which is the red circle but now its at the yellow circle for some time already.

Heres the pic
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/m...untitled-1.jpg

Well can anyone help me out on this????Any of the sifu???

Ken

Robert 24th November 2008 07:24 PM

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ken, since it was already well rooted and acclimatised to your environment, placed it in brighter part around the house. what media are you using?

kentosaurs 24th November 2008 07:44 PM

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Hi Robert

Its definitly rooted now.......no doubt bout that.....Placing it in a brigther condition??? I thought they like it more shaded.....I'm using pure LFS

Ken

edwardyeeks 24th November 2008 08:59 PM

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I think you should give it more sunlight. It must be unhappy without enough sun........:1thumbup:

Cheers

kentosaurs 24th November 2008 09:04 PM

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Well everyone it is already haveing partial shade and already some parts of the plant recives direct sun...for a little time

Ken

edwardyeeks 24th November 2008 09:15 PM

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Still, you should give it more light, it likes light.....'

Cheers

alienfx 24th November 2008 09:59 PM

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Well,bical take a long time to settle.Just give it more time.If it found something not suitable,it will stop growing.The bical pitcher is thick,thats why the shape stays same although dead.Did u feed the bical anything?Last time i just feed my bical 1 dot of small fish pellet and a week later the whole pitcher and leaf gone black.

kentosaurs 24th November 2008 10:04 PM

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Hi Alien

No Prob will wait and be patient.......The bical is healthy looking but it just doesn't grow thats all......I did not feed anything....

Ken

kepikimut 24th November 2008 10:21 PM

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bical takes more time to adaptation.
mine start pitchering after 6-8 months.and only make 2-3 leaves.
you have to be patient.
dont move and dont disturb the root.

bonsay 25th November 2008 02:48 PM

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Just be patient it will grow... try giving it more direct sunlight... as long as the stem is firm then you got nothing to worry just be patient.... oh not to scare you or anything a friend of mine bicalcarata stopped pitchering once... and took 2 years before it starts to learn making new pitchers... not so sure what happened though i never asked...

xMagicsZ 26th November 2008 12:03 AM

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Hi everyone..

I have a N. Hookeriana .. i think it has almost the same problem as showed?? i did gave it sunlight last time but one leaf just fully dried up in 2 days!! after that i move it to a shady area which is my balcony.. and now all the cups are drying up .. i cut down those dried up cups cause the shopkeeper from d nursery whr i bought my plant said im suppose to cut it down when its dried.. but i left one cup for fun.. i guess? lol but it just stop growing and coul'nt be healthy .. ?? why?!?!??!?:mad:

bonsay 26th November 2008 01:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xMagicsZ (Post 8453)
Hi everyone..

I have a N. Hookeriana .. i think it has almost the same problem as showed?? i did gave it sunlight last time but one leaf just fully dried up in 2 days!! after that i move it to a shady area which is my balcony.. and now all the cups are drying up .. i cut down those dried up cups cause the shopkeeper from d nursery whr i bought my plant said im suppose to cut it down when its dried.. but i left one cup for fun.. i guess? lol but it just stop growing and coul'nt be healthy .. ?? why?!?!??!?:mad:

How often you water your plant ? and whats the media ? picture would be very helpful. in my experience N. x hookeriana loves direct sunlight...

edwardyeeks 26th November 2008 01:20 PM

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My hookeriana is fine with some shade.......like what bonsay said, do you have pictures? Hookers can do well in pure LFS since I potted my hooker in pure LFS. If the cups dried up, it means you didn't water it enough.

Cheers

xMagicsZ 26th November 2008 04:08 PM

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elloes.. all =) i water my N.hookriana 2 days once..i tried to giv them sunlight but their leaves just dried up :crying:
Here are the photoes-

A dried cup
https://forum.petpitcher.net/C:\U...Z\DSC00225.JPG
Dried leaves
https://forum.petpitcher.net/C:\U...DSC00226...jpg

sob sob help my plant.. Btw can that cause of my soil? cause i dint change the soil.. i think im usng organic soil now -.-" cause its black in colour.. lol im buying dry moss when i gt time

Robert 26th November 2008 04:44 PM

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xMagicsZ, how long have you been keeping the hookeriana? what was the conds when you bought it? perhaps it was recently potted by the seller.

when you brought the plant home it shouldn't be exposed to direct sun. Keep it in fully cool and shaded area for acclimatisation until new leaves formed. This may take 4-6 weeks. Only at this stage new roots are formed ( but check out for reassurance).

I'm posting an example here. A basal cutting placed for rooting since 02.11.2008. Note the half dried leaves. The growth point didn't dried up and soon new leaves will formed.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSCN4425.jpg

The black soil (peat ) get compacted after adding water. Add 30%-40% perlite to provide a well drain media. All neps ( regardless of H/L or L/L )will do well with loose and well drain media.

kentosaurs 26th November 2008 04:46 PM

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I can't even see the pics BTW........If you are using organic soil then you should change it...........

Ken

xMagicsZ 26th November 2008 04:57 PM

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Hi evryone

Heres the pic that one i made some mistakes
http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/q...Z/DSC00226.jpg
The dying pitchers
http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/q...Z/DSC00225.jpg

HELP eheheheh

PY

bonsay 26th November 2008 05:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xMagicsZ (Post 8516)
elloes.. all =) i water my N.hookriana 2 days once..i tried to giv them sunlight but their leaves just dried up :crying:
Here are the photoes-

A dried cup
https://forum.petpitcher.net/C:%5...5CDSC00225.JPG
Dried leaves
https://forum.petpitcher.net/C:%5...DSC00226...jpg

sob sob help my plant.. Btw can that cause of my soil? cause i dint change the soil.. i think im usng organic soil now -.-" cause its black in colour.. lol im buying dry moss when i gt time

xMagicsZ... use LFS ( Long Fibre Sphagnum ) for media... mix with perlite and cocochips to help wth porosity.... try watering it twice a day... morning and evening... dont ever let the media go dry... they prefer it on the moist side... good luck :smile:

Robert 26th November 2008 06:36 PM

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well the plant look ok to me, not as serious as ( without pics when you first post), a pitcher and 1-2 leaves drying up it was going thr' a normal process.

edwardyeeks 26th November 2008 10:59 PM

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It would be best to switch to LFS and perlite mix, that should be ok. Organic soil may contain some minerals that aren't good for the hooker. Water it once every 2 days like what you did, hookers don't like wet soil watered everyday. Keep it in shade like what you are doing so it acclimatises.......

Cheers

kentosaurs 27th November 2008 11:48 AM

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Hi everyone

Just to update i have move my bical to a sunnier spot and i put it on a long tray and elevate it with pebbles as i heard this also raises humidity.....I don't know how much but i hope it helps

Ken

edwardyeeks 27th November 2008 02:18 PM

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It wil help kenneth, it will. Just let your bical be first, then it will slowly acclimatise to your environment. I am not sure how long, since you actuallly REPOT it in a new media, but the one I got from Fauzi has fully acclimatised. One pitcher is dead, after suspended animation for the last whole week, a new pitcher is forming, and a new leaf is already coming out.

Conclusion, bicals are tough enough to adapt.

Cheers

kentosaurs 27th November 2008 02:58 PM

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Hi Ed

Well okays thanks now that i noe it raises humidity i also put my little ventricosa there also.

About the repotting thing I didn't repot it at all BTW......It came to me in a zip lock bag roots wraped with spahgmum moss and also covered with tissues the roots part so duh...of cos i have to put it in a pot haha...

Ken

caseyhoo 27th November 2008 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kentosaurs (Post 8557)
Hi Ed

Well okays thanks now that i noe it raises humidity i also put my little ventricosa there also.

About the repotting thing I didn't repot it at all BTW......It came to me in a zip lock bag roots wraped with spahgmum moss and also covered with tissues the roots part so duh...of cos i have to put it in a pot haha...

Ken

You put the tissues together when you repot yours nepenthes? If so, it will melt and give negative affect to yours plant...

kentosaurs 27th November 2008 06:29 PM

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Hi Casey

Definitly no when i got it i took of the tissue and potted it.

Ken


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