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marvin1997 22nd September 2009 11:05 PM

Re: New cuttings
 
I thought ALL nep hate to have their roots disturbed:spinning:.....Good luck in your cutting though!

arvin555 23rd September 2009 01:18 AM

Re: New cuttings
 
Ali,

you know that info will also be quite useful in our nepenthes database, we should add that type of info if a species or hybrid is known to be sensitive to root being disturbed.

Marvin, I'd say in general yes, but there are species that are just too sensitive that disturbing them might kill them. I know for a fact that Bicalcaratas are very sensitive. Some of my Alatas does not seem to be too bothered. The main symptoms are lack of or very slow new growth. Cuttings are probably doubly more sensitive to root being disturbed.

TTFN
Arvin

marvin1997 23rd September 2009 09:09 AM

Re: New cuttings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arvin555 (Post 20776)
Ali,

you know that info will also be quite useful in our nepenthes database, we should add that type of info if a species or hybrid is known to be sensitive to root being disturbed.

Marvin, I'd say in general yes, but there are species that are just too sensitive that disturbing them might kill them. I know for a fact that Bicalcaratas are very sensitive. Some of my Alatas does not seem to be too bothered. The main symptoms are lack of or very slow new growth. Cuttings are probably doubly more sensitive to root being disturbed.

TTFN
Arvin

Oh okay....thanks:laugh:

Aliamyz 23rd September 2009 12:17 PM

Re: New cuttings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arvin555 (Post 20776)
Ali,

you know that info will also be quite useful in our nepenthes database, we should add that type of info if a species or hybrid is known to be sensitive to root being disturbed.

Marvin, I'd say in general yes, but there are species that are just too sensitive that disturbing them might kill them. I know for a fact that Bicalcaratas are very sensitive. Some of my Alatas does not seem to be too bothered. The main symptoms are lack of or very slow new growth. Cuttings are probably doubly more sensitive to root being disturbed.

TTFN
Arvin

Sure Arvin.Just a thought, we can't list species specifically unless some are really sensitive.My point here is we can't state a species that it's not sensitive to root disturbance as generally all neps are sensitive to root disturbance.

I think we should open a new thread in nepenthes database to show the cultivation guide and there we will include the sensitivity of neps towards root disturbance.What do you say?

.My bicalcarata took 2 months to recover just because i straighten up the growing point.:mad:

NepNut 23rd September 2009 01:41 PM

Re: New cuttings
 
Good point. Generally speaking, one should try not to distrub the root too much when repotting, if you're repotting to a bigger pot, it better just to remove the whole plant with it's old media intact and transplant the whole thing into new and bigger pot. Plants transplated this way will usually just keep on going.... for most of the species/hybrids anyway.

For newly accquired plants, most likely the roots were already disturbed especially those coming from overseas due to packaging and regulation. For this case, after repotting, it's better to bag it up and place it in a shaded condition with indirect sunlight (no direct sunlight even under shade cloth) to minimize the stress and let the plants recover faster. This process will take about 1 ~ 2 months depending on it's original condition and the hardiness of that particular species/hybrids.... It's better to wait for the new plants to at least grow 2-3 new leaves before moving it to your regular growing area. That's what I've been doing and I seldom have plants died from transplant shock... maybe 1 due to negligence... :crying:

My tiny 2 cents... *biggrin2*

arvin555 23rd September 2009 10:45 PM

Re: New cuttings
 
I agree Ali, well actually if a species is known to have a highly sensitive root, then we just mention it. No one has made a Bicalcarata cultivation guide though, so we can't put that in yet, and I am not experienced enough to make a Bical cultivation guide. :(

I agree with nepnut about repotting, I do exactly that, I'm really paranoid with root sensitivity.

I have a Bical x amp I forgot, anyway it's a bical hybrid, that looks like it might have inherited it's Bical root sensitivity. :(

TTFN
Arvin

marvin1997 25th September 2009 10:24 AM

Re: New cuttings
 
eh.....I buying bical bare-rooted from lau.....oh great!zzzzzzz

arvin555 25th September 2009 11:20 AM

Re: New cuttings
 
Don't worry too much, Bicals usually recover, though a bit slow. I had 2 bicals that died, maybe from having disturbed roots (bare root purchase) or some other reason that might be my fault. But as mentioned by other members, if you do have a Bical and it was bare root shipped, pot as soon as possible and Bag, to give it the best chance of recovering quickly. The bigger the plant the better chances of recovery. I got a "Large" sized Bical and it recovered in a month or so, but I did not take any chances with that, it went in a bag.

TTFN
Arvin

delphiguy 25th September 2009 01:08 PM

Re: New cuttings
 
I've never thought that bicalcarata is picky when it comes to root
disturbance, this is the first time i've read about this. I've often read that
northiana is the picky one. Wow, its great to learn new things everyday.


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