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CN 20th October 2009 03:05 AM

Best Conditions for Growing N. Rafflesiana
 
Hi folks,
As some have read I have had some troubles growing Rafflesaina Here in Kansas , US. I have had 6 all have died not sure why wether it was soil over watering (highly doubt) or just poor quality plant . I have recently received two seed grown Raff's one i just sold the other seems to be doing ok those two have been growing in a fish tank now for well since April an Havent really moved in growth . but , the funny thing is I have one other that is a TC Raff an it is in My H/L grow Chamber an it is the one that has taken off .
It is in the same media as the others same amount of air movement humidity in the H/L chamber is 10to 20 % lower then the L/L tank.They are pretty close to the same distance away from the lights .
I havent realy fully watered my plants in about amonth due to i mist them religously so media is damp but not soaked . Hope that makes sense ...lol
Any how hope you all Low Landers can throw a life raft out an help safe these lil guy's . Because these are supposed to be easy ....lol

Daren

Robert 20th October 2009 08:40 AM

Re: Best Conditions for Growing N. Rafflesiana
 
Hi Daren, can you provide info of your media approx percentage mix and the media you currently used ?

CN 20th October 2009 09:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert (Post 21961)
Hi Daren, can you provide info of your media approx percentage mix and the media you currently used ?

Hi Robert,
1 part Cedar Mulch
1 part peat
2 parts perlite
½ part chopped Lfs

an thats it

Daren

Robert 20th October 2009 09:42 PM

Re: Best Conditions for Growing N. Rafflesiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CN (Post 21994)
Hi Robert,
1 part Cedar Mulch
1 part peat
2 parts perlite
½ part chopped Lfs

an thats it

Daren

The composition look fine. If you check the raff and root are not forming well it was the peat that discourage root growth.

CN 20th October 2009 09:52 PM

Re: Best Conditions for Growing N. Rafflesiana
 
Peat would have this effect one the raff only of others , or due to the fact of it being a seedling?

Daren

Robert 21st October 2009 01:37 AM

Re: Best Conditions for Growing N. Rafflesiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CN (Post 21997)
Peat would have this effect one the raff only of others , or due to the fact of it being a seedling?

Daren

partly cos they are seedlings healthy roots are yet to form, the same effects have on others.

CN 21st October 2009 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert (Post 22003)
partly cos they are seedlings healthy roots are yet to form, the same effects have on others.

So I need to repot then you think ?

Robert 21st October 2009 07:21 AM

Re: Best Conditions for Growing N. Rafflesiana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CN (Post 22004)
So I need to repot then you think ?

i will usually change the media under this circumstances. 1/2 perlite and 1/2 sphagnum moss would be the basic media to use.

CN 21st October 2009 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert (Post 22009)
i will usually change the media under this circumstances. 1/2 perlite and 1/2 sphagnum moss would be the basic media to use.

So your saying the soil needs to be wetter not dryer like N.Veitchii.
Coz more lfs means wetter media. Now I was told to grow Raff's dryer than let's say a Amp, an almost as dry as Veitchii an Truncata.

Daren

NepNut 21st October 2009 02:41 PM

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I think that's your problem, most N. veitchii belongs to epiphytic nep, if you grow N. rafflesiana like you're growing N. veitchii, IMHO, it's too dry unless you water the media few times a day.

Robert 21st October 2009 07:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CN (Post 22010)
So your saying the soil needs to be wetter not dryer like N.Veitchii.
Coz more lfs means wetter media. Now I was told to grow Raff's dryer than let's say a Amp, an almost as dry as Veitchii an Truncata.

Daren

Hi Daren,

in all cases keeping the media moist ( not wet ) and very well drain were essential for the healthy growth of neps. But if sphagnum moss is too wet in your tank try a higher mix of perlite.

Boris 22nd October 2009 02:00 AM

Re: Best Conditions for Growing N. Rafflesiana
 
I've grown some raffs from seeds. Only 4 plants of a seedpod came through. They are now >20 cm diameter after 22 months after sowing. I keep them also in a terrarium. 22°C in the night and 28°C day. Strong wind from a ventilator dries the pots fast out. So I have to water them daily. The medium is 2 parts sphag and 1 part perlite and a drainage of pine bark. The pots are 8 cm sqare which seems still enough.

CN 22nd October 2009 04:11 AM

Re: Best Conditions for Growing N. Rafflesiana
 
OK ,
So what i am going to do then is repot
1)
Check the roots Health .
2)
Use NO peat .
3)
Use Perlite , Cedar mulch , chopped LFS,
An keep media a bit damper then i have been .
Check .
Sweet I will Keep all informed on their condition .
An i would like to Thanks All that Have commented their 2 cents :)

Daren

Robert 22nd October 2009 01:12 PM

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most welcome Daren,

Since you grow them in the tank using a ventilator ( as in Boris case ) will help control the temp and humidity.

do post and update with the progress.

CN 22nd October 2009 07:56 PM

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in here is where the one is doing the best this is my H/L grow chamber

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dontknowwhy 22nd October 2009 08:45 PM

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Hi Daren, i dont have any experience growing nepenthes in terrarium. I grow all my nepenthes outdoor.. Actually raff is strong, easy to adapt and grow fast.. For my raff:
1. media: mixture of cocopeat and cocochip
2. they love bright sunlight, less sunlight will make them weak and refused to pitcher.
3. humidity around 60 - 70 %
4. temp: 31-32 C , sometimes 34 C on hot day , 26-28 C at night
5. watering: 2 times a day
hope that can help..

Robert 22nd October 2009 08:48 PM

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wow that's alot...something like +50 pots:1thumbup:

CN 22nd October 2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert (Post 22063)
wow that's alot...something like +50 pots:1thumbup:

This is just the ones in the Garage an yes Almost 100 plants just in there , Now in side the house are 3 fish tanks packed full so i have upwards around 3oo plants or so:2thumbup: :tongue:

daren


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