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Robert 3rd January 2010 11:33 PM

Highland veitchii's varieties
 
In some the pitcher's coloration are similar, the only differences are their size and peristome - flare, folded backward, long and narrow.

In the normal green form its matured pitcher display brownish red peristome as in #8.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSC_1059.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSCF1397.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSCN3892.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSCF1393.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSCN3935.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSCF1440.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...DSC_1055-1.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSCN4177.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSCN4170.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSCN3954.jpg

cjloong 4th January 2010 12:01 AM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Wow. Nice. I've always liked this varieties but it seems that the ones common in cultivation does not represent the beauty of this species. Where are they from? Bareo?

Seems like they grown on grown and not trees. What are the substrate they are growing in?

The last picture? Are those Batu Lawi varieties?

Sorry, bombard you with so many questions... ;-)

Regard
cj

caseyhoo 4th January 2010 01:31 AM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
omg... that will be my 1 of my target.

Robert 4th January 2010 08:42 AM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cjloong (Post 24936)
Wow. Nice. I've always liked this varieties but it seems that the ones common in cultivation does not represent the beauty of this species. Where are they from? Bareo?

Seems like they grown on grown and not trees. What are the substrate they are growing in?

The last picture? Are those Batu Lawi varieties?

Sorry, bombard you with so many questions... ;-)

Regard
cj

substrates are sandy, peat and dead leaves. They're refered to as Bario's form but in actual fact found in outlying area. Alot of walking one way can take 1 hr, 2hrs or more. The last was Batu Lawi form but the colours are common among lowlanders except the later have longer and narrower pitcher.

welcome for more questions:smile:

David 4th January 2010 10:43 AM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Robert,

In the last picture, are all the pitcher shape the same on the whole plant or is that an upper pitcher? I love the shape and ladders. The ladders looks like sp. viking upper ladders. Lovely! Actually do veitchii have upper pitchers? can't recall.

I really like the pitcher on the third picture. The teal/green peristome with bright red strips is really spectacular. Pitcher is also so round and stout.

TranMinh 4th January 2010 11:08 AM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Hi Robert.
I love your pics, specially the third one :spinning:. Can I know the temperature where veitchii H/L grow. Another question is that veitchii grow in dry condition ? Btw thank for share those pics *biggrin2*

NepNut 4th January 2010 12:08 PM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Very nice... one of my most favourite nep species :wub:

marvin1997 4th January 2010 04:30 PM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
OKay now I absolutely know why kit1212 LOVES them:wub:Thanks for the pics*biggrin2*

Robert 4th January 2010 10:06 PM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Thanks all for the interests and comments. veitchii was one of my favourite too.

David, it was an intermediate pitcher. The whole plant display the same shape, photo attached.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSCN4150.jpg

I have not come across veitchii's upper pitcher but what about this intermediate.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSCN4138.jpg

minh, the humidity at night 99%, temp 14°C. Attached show temp/humidity taken about 7.00am where temp have already risen to 19°C
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...u/DSCF1483.jpg

where they grow the ground is very well drain, air is always cool and moist.

cjloong 4th January 2010 11:55 PM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Wow... 99% humidity is like in my terrarium. Gonna be hard to replicate this outdoors. Surprise to know that they are terrestrial. I've always under the impression that this is a epiphyte.

BTW. MT have this as a variety(Bareo). However, heard that it is not the best representation of this species. Anyone have the one from MT for comparison?...

Fortunately, according the wikipedia, this species is still not under threat (hopefully nowhere in future).

Robert, more newbie questions. I am city boy. ;-) Is this place hard to get to. I mean Batu Lawi and Bareo area. Far from Kuching? These pitchers would be a very nice photography subject, if ever I get to go to East Malaysia.

Regards
cj

Robert 5th January 2010 12:14 AM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cjloong (Post 24976)
Wow... 99% humidity is like in my terrarium. Gonna be hard to replicate this outdoors. Surprise to know that they are terrestrial. I've always under the impression that this is a epiphyte.

BTW. MT have this as a variety(Bareo). However, heard that it is not the best representation of this species. Anyone have the one from MT for comparison?...

Fortunately, according the wikipedia, this species is still not under threat (hopefully nowhere in future).

Robert, more newbie questions. I am city boy. ;-) Is this place hard to get to. I mean Batu Lawi and Bareo area. Far from Kuching? These pitchers would be a very nice photography subject, if ever I get to go to East Malaysia.

Regards
cj

The MT form would be pink pitcher with yellowish peristome.

Bario was a remote village. Getting to Batu Lawi was a 1.5 to 2 days journey on foot. There is no road but jungle trails. Guide and porters are necessary to carry food and drinking water.

TranMinh 5th January 2010 12:28 AM

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Robert,
Thank many thank for you Robert. The information is very useful. 99% humidify top problem.

Here is for you cjloong,
Pic copy right http://www.exoticplantsplus.com/ ( Tony )
http://www.exoticplantsplus.com/Nveitchiibareo.jpg

NepNut 5th January 2010 02:14 PM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Hi CJ,
As far as I know, MT's Bareo is not the striped peristome (a while back MT posted pic of the striped peristome bareo to represent what they're selling).

Most veitchii bario can be consider as intermediate so can be successfully (to a centain extent) grown in L/L tropical weather. If compared to other H/L plants like rajah, it's easier... *biggrin2* Of coz if you can provide a true intermediate or H/L growing condition for these beauties, you'll be able to admire it's full glory. :wub:

cjloong 6th January 2010 07:43 PM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Thanks for the info guys. MT Bareo is quite nice as well. I guess maybe that will be my next target.

Recently saw Veitchii seeds in BestCarnivourPlants. Checked with them and confirmed that it is Bareo. However, don't know how is the quality of these seeds. It is in euro though, so quite expensive. What do you guys think?

I know, even if it is viable, it will be a neck stretching exercise, guarantee to increase the neck length with the loooong wait.

BTW. Any member have the Bareo type in cultivation? or better yet Batu Lawi (which I think is even harder to find). That way, we don't have to trek 2 days and spend $$$ to enjoy its beauty.

Regards
cj

paphioboy 8th January 2010 11:10 AM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Got a question: How exactly does veitchii 'Hose Mountain' differ from regular veitchii? Are the pitchers and leaves supposed to be pinkish in colour? All my veitchii are only seedlings..

kit1212 8th January 2010 02:34 PM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
*drooling*

kit1212 8th January 2010 02:35 PM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
BTW,where to get veitchii bario besides MT?

marvin1997 8th January 2010 04:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kit1212 (Post 25120)
*drooling*

Lol see*biggrin2*

NepNut 8th January 2010 08:39 PM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kit1212 (Post 25121)
BTW,where to get veitchii bario besides MT?

BE has one as N. veitchii "Golden Peristome" which they categorized it as H/L variety. EP also have greenhouse bread H/L form that they labled as veitchii "h" and "k". The "k" form is supposely the striped peristome form.

I have the BE and EP's "k" form and it's growing steadily but still very young... :closedeyes:

kit1212 9th January 2010 10:14 AM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Wow,you actually got EP veitchii.I heard it is not cheap and thanks for the info =)

cjloong 19th January 2010 01:38 AM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Hi Nepnut

Do you have pictures of EP clones to share? Thinking of getting one in the next mass order. Hope it is not too much trouble. :crying:

Regards
cj

NepNut 19th January 2010 04:55 PM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Hi CJ,
There's nothing to see as it's still small and no pitcher yet... It only started to produce 1st leaf under my care... According to EP, their veitchiis were seed grown, not TC clones.

cjloong 19th January 2010 08:19 PM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Oh. It didn't come with pitchers? Or it came with XS size? But EP plant wor? (sorry, not an accusation to EP, I am just thinking aloud):shy:

Regards
cj

NepNut 19th January 2010 10:48 PM

Re: Highland veitchii's varieties
 
Not all Size S EP neps come in good size...


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