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xMagicsZ 2nd January 2009 09:13 PM

My Vft
 
Hi everyone,
I'd bought my vft few weeks ago.. i mean i ask ken to buy it lolx.. Well, it suppose to be a typical vft which has reddish colour inside the trap.. but after few weeks, those reddish traps dried off.. and those new born traps are all green! lolx why? Anyway i place it under direct sunlight since i bought it..
2nd thing is.. Hmm.. For vfts, we need to put a plate under the pot with some water rite?? LoL.. Anyway will it bcome a breading ground for mosquitos? lol cuz thre more n more aedes in this area lol.. sometimes those 'bandaraya' will check ard houses and giv us 'saman' also haha..

Some replies please? :tongue:

-Newbie.

edwardyeeks 2nd January 2009 09:23 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Hmm.........yeah, you should put the VFT on a water tray. Basically a tray filled with water and the VFT sitting like a duck in it. This is to keep it constantly wet, unless you want to water it everyday.

Don't worry, mosquitoes don't breed very fast in water trays. Just let the water dry out before adding again. Or you can clean the tray, altough this is a tedious job.

Is your VFT making traps that stand upright or the traps are lying down by the side?

Cheers

kentosaurs 2nd January 2009 10:09 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Hi Py

Your VFT fine la should be post picture better....Anyways if its still growing and only a few traps dying then its okay natural .

Ken

plantlover 2nd January 2009 11:01 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Sometimes my water trays have mosquitoes larva too. But I pour just them away.

xMagicsZ 2nd January 2009 11:32 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 11042)
Hmm.........yeah, you should put the VFT on a water tray. Basically a tray filled with water and the VFT sitting like a duck in it. This is to keep it constantly wet, unless you want to water it everyday.

Don't worry, mosquitoes don't breed very fast in water trays. Just let the water dry out before adding again. Or you can clean the tray, although this is a tedious job.

Is your VFT making traps that stand upright or the traps are lying down by the side?

Cheers

Hi Edward,
I'm sure the water in the tray is 'non-lively' so its definitely gonna have lavas in it.. 2ndly will the plant absorb the water and the lavas gone up lolx?? .. Erm IF I'm just saying IIF.: will the VFT die IF i remove the water?:.. Haha just asking for curiousy, dont worry im not gonna take it off :biggrin:

My VFT is making traps that lying down from the middle.. When the 1st day i bought it its fresh reddish.. after feww weeks they turn all green lol.. I want the colouring =/


P/S : soorrryy i dint put pics cuz umm.. kinda newbie still hahaha :unsure::unsure:

xMagicsZ 2nd January 2009 11:36 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kentosaurs (Post 11048)
Hi Py

Your VFT fine la should be post picture better....Anyways if its still growing and only a few traps dying then its okay natural .

Ken


Hello ken,
I know its fine I'm saying about the colors. But Tnx anyway :laugh:


Hi Aaron,
Hehe Okay I'll vanish them lol.. Thank you.

caseyhoo 3rd January 2009 12:33 AM

Re: My Vft
 
hi there,

You can try Simon method to avoid mosquito laying egg in yours water tray.

You said you put yours VFT under direct sunlight, how long it is? Beside that, difference temperature at night and day may causing lose of the color too... There is some discussion on VFT color at the below link
https://forum.petpitcher.net/showthread.php?t=1444

TS 3rd January 2009 01:18 AM

Re: My Vft
 
Appearence of VFTs vary with temperature and sunlight. The colour especially, changes under different growing conditions. For instance, a green leaves with red inner trap VFT. It looked as it is when it is grown in Cameron Highland, but the temperature difference (in day and night) in the lowland just couldn't maintain it's inner trap colour. (this is exactly what xMagicsZ had experienced)
This explained why our red vft we bought last time from Sungai Buloh, when the time we obtained it was burgundy red, but it slowly transformed to greenish maroon no matter how much sun is given. It never return to it's original colour since then.
I have a few VFTs which have red inner trap, every single trap it grows beared the red colour in the trap, others just don't show the red colouration under same condition.
I think it is very much depends on what VFT form we have, some get red easily but others don't.
How many hours did you place your VFT under direct sun? To get the best colour, you may probably need 8 hours.
If you are using water tray system, just allow a maximum of 1 cm of water in the tray and let the water to dry out before you water again. I think mosquito larvas will have no chances of surviving. When you add water, do it slowly from the top but don't splash on the trap so that you won't trigger the trap to drain it's energy unnecessarily. Pour away the water in the tray every week or two to get rid of any minerals accumulated in the tray. Hope this help and explained what you're asking. Happy growing! :2thumbup:

edwardyeeks 3rd January 2009 08:56 AM

Re: My Vft
 
Mosquito larvaes can be rid by cleaning the tray. Although it is a slow and tedious method. I realise that blue trays are the one that are usually infested with mosquito larvae the fastest. This is because, most mosquitoes are attracted to blue colour.

PY, the most important thing is that never let the media dry out completely. Always keep it wet. The water tray method is to keep the media wet while saving you time from constantly watering the plant. But don't overwater the plant! You will kill it by root rot, thats what I did to my first VFT. :crying:

Cheers

kentosaurs 3rd January 2009 11:21 AM

Re: My Vft
 
Not sure about the cameron highland temp but the plant was from Fauzi so i'm not sure of where the source is from.

Ken

marvin1997 3rd January 2009 12:59 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Got probelm with water trays?Just put pebbles around the pot and the mosquitoes won't be able to breed.

kentosaurs 3rd January 2009 02:47 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Artificial pebbles might have some sort of ingredient in it...

Ken

edwardyeeks 3rd January 2009 09:49 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Well, water tray is has its pros and cons. It depends how people see it. Some think it is potential for mosquitoe breeding and don't use it at all. Others do not have time, so they just simply leave the plant in a tray of water. It is up to you whether you want to use the water tray or not, PY.

Cheers

xMagicsZ 3rd January 2009 11:27 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by caseyhoo (Post 11076)
hi there,

You can try Simon method to avoid mosquito laying egg in yours water tray.

You said you put yours VFT under direct sunlight, how long it is? Beside that, difference temperature at night and day may causing lose of the color too... There is some discussion on VFT color at the below link
https://forum.petpitcher.net/showthread.php?t=1444

Hi Casey.. Normally i place my VFT out in direct sunlight from 8am till evening abt 8++pm so im pretty sure that it has enough sunlight. I think the lose of color most probably its the one TS is saying.. "" It looked as it is when it is grown in Cameron Highland, but the temperature difference (in day and night) in the lowland just couldn't maintain it's inner trap colour.""

Well abt the mosquito tnx lol.. maybe i'll try keep clean :tongue:

xMagicsZ 3rd January 2009 11:35 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TS (Post 11078)
Appearence of VFTs vary with temperature and sunlight. The colour especially, changes under different growing conditions. For instance, a green leaves with red inner trap VFT. It looked as it is when it is grown in Cameron Highland, but the temperature difference (in day and night) in the lowland just couldn't maintain it's inner trap colour. (this is exactly what xMagicsZ had experienced)
This explained why our red vft we bought last time from Sungai Buloh, when the time we obtained it was burgundy red, but it slowly transformed to greenish maroon no matter how much sun is given. It never return to it's original colour since then.
I have a few VFTs which have red inner trap, every single trap it grows beared the red colour in the trap, others just don't show the red colouration under same condition.
I think it is very much depends on what VFT form we have, some get red easily but others don't.
How many hours did you place your VFT under direct sun? To get the best colour, you may probably need 8 hours.
If you are using water tray system, just allow a maximum of 1 cm of water in the tray and let the water to dry out before you water again. I think mosquito larvas will have no chances of surviving. When you add water, do it slowly from the top but don't splash on the trap so that you won't trigger the trap to drain it's energy unnecessarily. Pour away the water in the tray every week or two to get rid of any minerals accumulated in the tray. Hope this help and explained what you're asking. Happy growing! :2thumbup:

Hello TS,
So u mean my VFTs are from Highlands, i place it form 8am to around 8pm.. so it should be fine.. sometimes i left it outside for 24 hrs lol.. Abt the colouring u mean my vft wont b able 2 return to its original color and stay green 4ever? :crying:

And yeah Tnx for ur advices for d mosquitos haha.. Just havta get rid if lavas :2thumbup::2thumbup:

caseyhoo 3rd January 2009 11:41 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xMagicsZ (Post 11132)
Hi Casey.. Normally i place my VFT out in direct sunlight from 8am till evening abt 8++pm so im pretty sure that it has enough sunlight. I think the lose of color most probably its the one TS is saying.. "" It looked as it is when it is grown in Cameron Highland, but the temperature difference (in day and night) in the lowland just couldn't maintain it's inner trap colour.""

Well abt the mosquito tnx lol.. maybe i'll try keep clean :tongue:

Then, lighting is not the issue... BTW, even TC VFT will have difference color even keep them side by side. It is happen to Fauzi VFT shark teeth. He keep all his shark teeth VFT in the same place. But, some showing red color at inner part of the trap. Some is all green.

Which place of world you live ? 8am till evening abt 8++pm ? :tongue:

xMagicsZ 3rd January 2009 11:56 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 11080)
Mosquito larvaes can be rid by cleaning the tray. Although it is a slow and tedious method. I realise that blue trays are the one that are usually infested with mosquito larvae the fastest. This is because, most mosquitoes are attracted to blue colour.

PY, the most important thing is that never let the media dry out completely. Always keep it wet. The water tray method is to keep the media wet while saving you time from constantly watering the plant. But don't overwater the plant! You will kill it by root rot, thats what I did to my first VFT. :crying:

Cheers


I tot mosquitoes like black color? Anyway my tray is white color so worry not. :2thumbup: How to know weather over water or not? lolx.. i always water it till it flooded =X but the water wil drip out from d hole hahaah..

xMagicsZ 3rd January 2009 11:59 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kentosaurs (Post 11084)
Not sure about the cameron highland temp but the plant was from Fauzi so i'm not sure of where the source is from.

Ken

Hmm but urs dint turn green so hmm maybe not? lol and his nursery has many many maybe he plant it lol

xMagicsZ 4th January 2009 12:08 AM

Re: My Vft
 
Hi 3, maybe I'll try some white pebbles :2thumbup: i think using tray is better cuz Ken says it all d time lol [last time]

marvin1997 4th January 2009 02:42 PM

Re: My Vft
 
I use marbles.And to give VFT colour, I just put it beside the computer 'cause there's a lamp there.I put it there for 4 hours.But my VFT is now in dormance.Gotta wait til late February.

TS 4th January 2009 04:32 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xMagicsZ (Post 11133)
Hello TS,
So u mean my VFTs are from Highlands, i place it form 8am to around 8pm.. so it should be fine.. sometimes i left it outside for 24 hrs lol.. Abt the colouring u mean my vft wont b able 2 return to its original color and stay green 4ever? :crying:

And yeah Tnx for ur advices for d mosquitos haha.. Just havta get rid if lavas :2thumbup::2thumbup:

I assumed your VFT is from CH bcos what we have in the market now are mostly from YG Park I think. So they'll show what they should be in the highland when they're available for sale in the market, if you are lucky enough you probably will get a plant that maintain it's colour even in our growing condition. I have a few from YG park too, the inner trap still red but not as red as when I bought it. If yours received enough sunlight and yet not as red as what it shud be, I'm afraid it will stay like that in your place. :bored:

Varhoon Vystra 5th January 2009 10:46 PM

Re: My Vft
 
You should try 2 get the pots which do not have holes under it.

kentosaurs 5th January 2009 11:59 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Hi Varhoon

Well most CPs do well in those except neps.........But in my own opinion the problem with pots that are undrained.....You might never know how much you water and you might overwater it and cause the VFT to have root rot.But of course a lot of people have great succes growing CPs in it

Ken

xMagicsZ 9th January 2009 08:20 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marvin1997 (Post 11158)
I use marbles.And to give VFT colour, I just put it beside the computer 'cause there's a lamp there.I put it there for 4 hours.But my VFT is now in dormance.Gotta wait til late February.

Hi marvin.. I bought the pebbles dy.. so i gotta use it :tongue: Anyway marvin or anyone... how 2 know weather my plant is in dormant or not?

xMagicsZ 9th January 2009 08:22 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TS (Post 11170)
I assumed your VFT is from CH bcos what we have in the market now are mostly from YG Park I think. So they'll show what they should be in the highland when they're available for sale in the market, if you are lucky enough you probably will get a plant that maintain it's colour even in our growing condition. I have a few from YG park too, the inner trap still red but not as red as when I bought it. If yours received enough sunlight and yet not as red as what it shud be, I'm afraid it will stay like that in your place. :bored:

Ok tnx.. BTW.. OMGOSH nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

xMagicsZ 9th January 2009 09:03 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Varhoon Vystra (Post 11322)
You should try 2 get the pots which do not have holes under it.

HUH? o.o y? :confused: i taught Pots must have holes? if VFT plants in a pot which doesnt hav holes then wad is the use of putting water and tray?

xMagicsZ 9th January 2009 09:05 PM

Re: My Vft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kentosaurs (Post 11328)
Hi Varhoon

Well most CPs do well in those except neps.........But in my own opinion the problem with pots that are undrained.....You might never know how much you water and you might overwater it and cause the VFT to have root rot.But of course a lot of people have great succes growing CPs in it

Ken

so should i use it or not? btw u said that great success means... the VFT grow even faster or the trap is larger or wht?? o.o


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