Flowering N. sanguinea or it's hybrid.
 

My plant is flowering, can anyone tell if it's a boy or a girl?

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This is how the pitchers looks like before it stopped putting out pitcher:confused:. I think this should make some interesting hybrids and if anyone is interested please let me know.
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LOOKS LIKE BOY

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Boon,

Thanks, that was fast. Will collect the pollen and if anyone(local ony) is interested to make a hybrid with it please let me know.

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Theres balls....so boy la :D

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Do you have the pics of it's lower pitchers before it stop pitchering? I might be interested. :smile:

It's normal to see nep stop pitchering when it's about to flower, this may last up to 6 months or more depending on how fast it recover from flowering before it start to pitcher again :sweating:. If that plant got basal, the basal will still continue to grow and pitcher normally. :smile:

So any potential nep breeder should bear in mind if you want the nep to flower, be ready to sacrifice to have neps without pitchers for quite sometime... :crying:

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Oh... you naughty naughty*biggrin2*

Rob, unfortunately that's the only picture i have of this plants before it stop pitchering. There are at least 3 pitchers in the picture above, so you can visualise how the whole pitcher looks like*biggrin2*. All i can say is that the pitchers were huge. This should make some interesting hybrids. If everything went well, i will collect the pollen and send most to you.

My itchy hands cut off the basal and it fails to root:crying: before the plant stop to pitcher and begining putting out smaller leaves and flower.

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I regretted to let my campa flower, which ends up in a loss loss situation where there are no pollen while the plant takes almost forever to recover...

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hi AT,

may i ask, how tall is the basal shoot? i have tried on the hardy species and it roots without any help from rooting hormone etc...(but provided with high humidity level) have not tried on the intermediate hybrids.....now you said that it fails on you.....i think twice now (sanguinea hybrid)....if the basal is too old (with woody trunk) i think the percentage is quite low compares to the softer basal (but again prone to rot)

any tips, Robert?:smile:

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wow...this one look irresistible.....

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Hi Kevyn,

It's a small basal with 4-5 leaves and still soft. Precisely... it started to turn black and rot. In my case, i think it could be the higher humidity or that i water them too much that causes it's demise. I found out later with my other cutting it's best to just chuck them at a corner with sufficient light and not disturb them at all......90% rooted:spinning:

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We all learn that way...Cway*biggrin2* but i thought your campa is still too young that's why it strained the plant greatly.


Hopefully....until i managed to collect the pollen, i'm keeping my finger cross*biggrin2*

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well, i will keep my fingers cross too if you collect the pollen successfully, haha

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Sorry to say, I'm still a noob when it comes to rooting cutting/basals... :shy:

For those who are interested in doing nep breeding, these are a few points that I would like to share regarding nep flowers

1) I only cross the female nep flower that flower naturally. Meaning the nep grow the full cycle from lower pitchers to upper pitcher (for most neps anyway) and were growing healthily:smile:. Flowering process takes a lot of energy out of nep especially female nep. :sweating:

2) I won't cross the flower that was induced by stress (newly accquired plants, poor growing conditions (including extreme changes in weather pattern), plants that flowers too early and etc) will usually abort it's flower (die or dry immaturely). Waste of pollen and also great waste of energy for a already weak plant. :sweating: Just better to cut this flower away to save the energy for the plants.

3) I have encountered some male nep that will flower but the pollen bud will stay solid (pollen not release), ie. N. x gentle. I'm not sure if it's weather related or it's an anomoly of TC plant. Some female intermediate species/hybrids flower will be aborted as well after sucessful pollination and I think this is largely due to the inappropiate growing condition or perhaps another TC plant anomoly, ie. N. vietchii "green" from MT. :sweating:

That's all I can think of for now... pls feel free if you have more points to add... Thanks. :smile:

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hmm...that means hibridizing neps or i should say breeding neps also depends on the origin of the neps ie seedgrown, tissue culture, species, hybrids, lowland, intermediate, highland....so its worthwhile to cut off any flowers that you think is not favoring the mother plant as it waste lots of energy and theres not suitor (pollen or flowers)......unless you have many specimens to be experiment with:closedeyes:

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Don't get me wrong, most TC plants on the market are fertile and can produce viable seeds.

There's no short cut to get good flowers that'll produce good and viable seeds. However, all this take times if you grow your nep from small seedling.

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erm...then why sometimes the TC plants are unfertile, like the miranda? i read it from previous post...

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Not all miranda are infertile... As to why some TC plants are like that... I don't have explaination, that why I called this an "anomoly" *biggrin2*

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I read somewhere that tc'd plant are genetically defective and are known to exhibit certain traits not consistent with those of seed grown originals or in other word being 'abnormal'. I'm not sure being infertile is one of the abnormality that only affected those from tc or does it affect the seed grown plants as well. Hope someone can enlighten me on this.

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in human cell replication process, even during mitosis, human cell also make mistake but in 1:6million...
or maybe just like the BE(if not mistaken) having one variegerated N.rajah out of their uncountable TC plant N.rajah.

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Aiyoh Allen, talk about nepenthes i :spinning: liao.....now you want to bring in human cells replication process, i si kiao kiao*biggrin2*

From the little that i know.... in tc they will keep only those with desirable traits and discard the rest for the obvious reason. What you saw might be the 'chosen one'.

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they were using the nicest plant and the most beautiful plant that they have for TC...this what i know

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Hem....well NepNut,my male N.rafflesiana that is flowering last month do have a few flower that did not bloom but when i peel it the pollen had been release.Did u experience this before?The plant is not from TC....

Angkau Tekor,can u reserve some of the pollen for me?i'm outstation right now and will be back on the 19 Dec.Before i left for outstation about a week ago, my female N.gracilis is about to flower.I know it by the swollen young left shoot and when i press it gently i can feel the flower bud.I just hope that the flower is still receptive went i'm back home.anyway,will let u know once i'm back.

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Sure no problem...but i'm not sure when the flower will bloom or whether there will be any pollen at all. If i managed to collect them i will send some to you.

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Nope, I only have 1 plant that it's pollen bud stayed solid (N. x gentle) and I have tried to break it apart using fingernail, it's still won't release pollen.

Regarding variegated via TC... it's actually not uncommon to get 1 variegated nep out of a batch of TC plants.

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well,i'm back from outstation.But i'm a bit late because the flower has bloomed all the way.only the end terminal of the flower look like is still receptive.so i just use my stock pollen of N.raff.hope will get at least a few pods the will give me viable seeds.here's the photo of the flower,N.mirabilis

Anyway,thanks for the offer...:smile:
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Oh! hope it's still receptive and good luck. There's not much progress with my sanguinea flower. Maybe the erratic weather here is causing it to grow at a slower pace or it could be the plant itself. I find it odd that it's still so small after more than a month:confused:. Anyway if they produced any pollen at all, i'll reserve some for you to be use in future.

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Latest update on my N.sanguinea flower. The pollen bud seem to turn black instead of powdery. Does this means it has gone bad or can i still collect any pollen from them and what causes this?

The one on the right is newly open as compare to the rest which is 2 days old.
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It's seem like a blooming for long time and out of order. So, I suggest to observe new opening flower.

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Thanks, will keep an eye on those newly bloomed flower. Hopefully i can collect some pollen from them.

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Hi Teoh,
When the bud turned black, that means all the pollen are gone.

Just look at right flower on your pic, the bud on that flower is still solid, usually it'll take another day (~24hrs) for it to release the pollen, that's when you should collect it. My tiny 2 cents... :smile:

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Hi Rob,

Thanks for the explaination. I just hope i can check on the flowers more often and getting the timing right. Really hope to collect the pollen rather than seeing it go to waste. There are not many flower bud left though.:sweating: