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funkychips 9th June 2009 10:59 PM

Cephalotus under Energy Saving Lights
 
Well guys here's my first attempt at trying to grow Cephalotus under artificial lighting. I'm using a Phillips Cool Daylight 23Watt Bulb and white plastic board backing around the sides and bottom of the tank to increase brightness (if that actually helps much). Pots are sitting on pebble trays with water level just touching base of pot. Advice is very much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Here's some pics to share.
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/673/1515115.jpg
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7716/1505100.jpg
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4259/1505098.jpg

kentosaurs 10th June 2009 10:08 AM

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Hi Funkychips...Where did you get that case????? Looks soo nice and of course the plants look so healthy too!! Love it..

marvin1997 10th June 2009 11:50 AM

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Ken,it's the exoterra cage for reptiles.Funkychips,why don't you just plant them in the tank, like a terrarium.But isn't the tank abit pricy?

Delwin 10th June 2009 01:27 PM

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If you want to use energy bulbs, choose a higher wattage, they can do well for your cephs. Also do repot your YG cephs, the original media will induce root rot in no time.

funkychips 10th June 2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kentosaurs (Post 17050)
Hi Funkychips...Where did you get that case????? Looks soo nice and of course the plants look so healthy too!! Love it..

Quote:

Originally Posted by marvin1997 (Post 17053)
Ken,it's the exoterra cage for reptiles.Funkychips,why don't you just plant them in the tank, like a terrarium.But isn't the tank abit pricy?

Hi Ken and Marvin, I got those tanks from my friend who used to keep his tarantulas in there. They are from the Exoterra brand, they are a US company selling reptile accessories and doing eco research so thats why their designs are so unique. You can find them at petshops like Pet Safari, and yes they are terribly expensive. I probably won't buy them just for putting in the plants, since I got them free I might as well make good use of them.

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Originally Posted by Delwin (Post 17059)
If you want to use energy bulbs, choose a higher wattage, they can do well for your cephs. Also do repot your YG cephs, the original media will induce root rot in no time.

Hi Delwin, what is the highest wattage you can find for energy bulbs? This one is 23 Watts, it says on the box that it emits 150W equivalent of light intensity from six tungsten bulbs. And Delwin, should I repot my Cephs with same type of medium or change into peat and perlite composition? Please advise, thanks!

Alvin

marvin1997 11th June 2009 10:56 AM

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Funkychips,do you think those exoterra "Reptile Glo Compact Full Spectrum Terrarium Light bulb"is OK for plants?Is UVB good for plants?Since you always use them.(maybe la,but you do have reptiles before don't you)This one says plants also grow under them.the link: http://www.exo-terra.com/en/products...cent_bulbs.php

marvin1997 11th June 2009 10:59 AM

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THe first one,and still got those linear bulbs.The link: http://www.exo-terra.com/en/products...cent_bulbs.php

TranMinh 11th June 2009 03:35 PM

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Hi Marvin,
I think the bulbs in the web is not good because the Red Light wave is more effect to the plants than the Blue light wave and T10, T8 is use a lot of enegy give us not much lux of light. So the best for plants is T5. It give alot of lux and enegy for it low.

Delwin 11th June 2009 09:02 PM

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I am not sure what is the highest wattage over your side, but i am very sure that there are some much more higher wattage then this. If you cant find those T5 set with individual reflextors, then you can go for PL, they will give you the same effect as T5(but gives off more heat then T5).

Repot them with sand and peat, ratio 1:1. If you cant find lapis sand, then perlite will also do the job. While repotting, you can splite the cephs too, i am sure there are atleast more then 5 growing points from the look of the plant.

funkychips 11th June 2009 11:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marvin1997 (Post 17128)
Funkychips,do you think those exoterra "Reptile Glo Compact Full Spectrum Terrarium Light bulb"is OK for plants?Is UVB good for plants?Since you always use them.(maybe la,but you do have reptiles before don't you)This one says plants also grow under them.the link: http://www.exo-terra.com/en/products...cent_bulbs.php

Yep, I have used those flourescent lights before, I use them for my blue tongue lizard, but not on plants, because I think they feel abit too hot for comfort, much more costly than the normal energy saving daylight bulb and they are not so bright compared to those light bulbs.

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Originally Posted by Delwin (Post 17154)
I am not sure what is the highest wattage over your side, but i am very sure that there are some much more higher wattage then this. If you cant find those T5 set with individual reflextors, then you can go for PL, they will give you the same effect as T5(but gives off more heat then T5).

Repot them with sand and peat, ratio 1:1. If you cant find lapis sand, then perlite will also do the job. While repotting, you can splite the cephs too, i am sure there are atleast more then 5 growing points from the look of the plant.

Ok thanks Delwin. So, basically T5 bulbs come in 5/8 inch size? One thing I noticed about them is that they tend to dim over a short period of time (or by constant daily use of 14-16 hours), hence need to put multiple tubes using bigger deflectors I suppose?

I think my Ceph has four growing points. I have a big bag of perlite and vermiculite so I suppose I could use that. Since I have two pots of few growth points each I think I will try two to three on a different type of media and see how they acclimatise.

nickjamie 12th June 2009 12:30 AM

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nice ceph funkychips! how long have u had the ceph grown in that condition?


so r u gonna use the same light ?

funkychips 12th June 2009 12:38 AM

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Hi nick!
I've been keeping it for only half a month, just got it recently so far nothing's changed but according to Delwin I may have to change the media soon as it is getting really mushy and soggy. I suppose I will still use the same lights temporarily, as I get planning on having a wider area for keeping all my CPs together under one central lighting system of lights.

Alvin

Delwin 12th June 2009 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by funkychips (Post 17162)
Ok thanks Delwin. So, basically T5 bulbs come in 5/8 inch size? One thing I noticed about them is that they tend to dim over a short period of time (or by constant daily use of 14-16 hours), hence need to put multiple tubes using bigger deflectors I suppose?

I think my Ceph has four growing points. I have a big bag of perlite and vermiculite so I suppose I could use that. Since I have two pots of few growth points each I think I will try two to three on a different type of media and see how they acclimatise.

yes, 5/8 inches. Do try to look out for reflextor for each individual light tube. But a better brand one, those from China made will have the dimming effect. If you cant find that, then i suggest using PL light.
You can mix peat : perlite : vermiculite 1:1:1.

funkychips 14th June 2009 11:23 PM

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Have repotted my Cephs. Bottom of pot filled with thin layer of lava rock, followed by mixture of 50:50 Peat:Perlite and lastly top dressing of about 1 inch of LFS. Hope that's ok. :unsure:

Delwin 15th June 2009 04:21 PM

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The idea of laying a layer of lava rock is not good, i suggest a layer of LFS would be more idea. And toping a layer around the crown may induce rot.:sweating:

funkychips 15th June 2009 09:16 PM

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Whew! Just done repotting according to your recommendation Delwin. Perlite as top dressing. Can't go far wrong can it? :D
Here's the pic. Terracotta pot from Ikea, thin layer of LFS as bottom, middle layer peat, perlite, vermiculite mix (1:1:1) and top off with 1/2 inch perlite. Container with some gravel and thin line of water to provide humidity.

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2303/repottedcephs.jpg
Alvin

Delwin 16th June 2009 08:16 PM

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Right, this is the way. If you are dare abit, do some leaves pulling. Your plants have alot of leaves. If you even more daring, do some off shoot seperating, there are alot of off shoot in each pot. In the end, some small off shoot will die.:biggrin:

marvin1997 17th June 2009 06:46 PM

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It looks so nice.....

nickjamie 22nd June 2009 06:14 PM

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dude u have got green thumbs and i love the setting. it looks so neat and pleasing!

funkychips 24th June 2009 12:21 AM

Re: Cephalotus under Energy Saving Lights
 
Due to the momentary lack of light intensity and ventilation issues, I have shifted my Cephalotus plants outdoors. So hoping to upgrade to a new and bigger tank soon to get the conditions more ideal before experimenting with the plants under lights again.


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