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jimmy0123 28th September 2010 01:16 PM

Tree shrew problem
 
Did anyone have the problem of tree shrew biting off the nep pitcher? I've been getting this problem and my nep hvnt been producing fully developed pitcher for months :unsure:. They like to target my N. maxima the most but less in N rafflesiana and N alata. I hag them up but they seem to manage to climb up to the pots and then bye bye to my pitcher. Have any suggestion to solve this problem? Getting really frustrated :spinning:.

caseyhoo 28th September 2010 01:40 PM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
Rat cage?

jimmy0123 28th September 2010 01:44 PM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
It didnt work i try a few times. Furthermore i dont know what to do after catching it either kill (cant do it i too soft lol) or release it (might come back??). I was hopping like some home remedies or some chemical that can prevent them from coming.... Any suggestion?

NepNut 28th September 2010 02:23 PM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
I think funkychips faced the same problems like yours... I mostly have rats chewing on my pitchers... :sweating:

jimmy0123 28th September 2010 02:38 PM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NepNut (Post 33225)
I think funkychips faced the same problems like yours... I mostly have rats chewing on my pitchers... :sweating:

What do u do with it? mayb i can borrow the idea and try it out :tongue: beside putting rat trap (i try it it dint work)

sooxiwei 28th September 2010 04:57 PM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
I got prob with rodden, they love the typical n. rafflesiana, they didn't chew off the whole thing, but rather break a part of it...you can try some banana with rat poison, but for long term might not work

Angkau Tekor 28th September 2010 05:35 PM

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This is what people in my area used to do during fruiting seasons. They will trapped one and spray painted that poor fella in bright color. Then they will spray perfume on it before releasing it. Once released that poor fella's natural instinct is to get back to it's colony and the colony when they see some weird looking and funny smelling thing approaching them will run helter skelter. This might sound crazy but i had seen it works before. *biggrin2*

marvin1997 28th September 2010 08:20 PM

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Too cruel >< Hang dead rat body to scare them off... wakaka

kevyn chan 28th September 2010 08:40 PM

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caged them!! not the rodents but your precious neps!!!*biggrin2*

funkychips 28th September 2010 08:53 PM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
FINALLY FINALLY someone that can relate to the tree shrew and rat problem I'm facing!!!:crying::crying:

Jimmy: I got tree shrew + rat problems. Basically at war with them all year long...tree shrews at the second half of the year during fruiting season and rats on the first half during dry season...:veryangry::veryangry::veryangry:

AngkauTekor & CWay: Thanks so much for the tip bro I'm gonna do just that! :veryangry::veryangry::veryangry: Remove the tree shrews at any cost!! Don't get me wrong here I love having nature scampering around my garden but they're just doing something that does not seem too nice to my plants....but rats are another story....sigh....how to get rid of them? They're too smart to enter traps, they eat box after box of rat poison and even tear the box to eat what's inside and they leave a mess of their toilet stuff everywhere they go...

Nepnut: For the rats, they dig up my moss and bury fish bones in the pots, and the shrews shred the red pitchers on one side leaving the other side intact, as if to mock me. How crazy can these b****y critters get??? If someone keeps civet cats I'll gladly buy some p** off to use as bio weapon ie instead of painting the shrew can spray the stuff on it and everybody back at his home will run because civet is a predator...:1thumbup:


Alvin

sooxiwei 28th September 2010 11:46 PM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
it can be very simple, as most people around, I'd love to have nice flora and fauna around...but once it goes over the limit, it means declaring war, wipe it out then:1thumbup:

cruel but need to face the fact :)

Angkau Tekor 29th September 2010 12:01 AM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
Rats are smart and cunning...if you use trap that has caught other rat beforehand, they will never go near it as it has got the scent of the other rat on it. You need to rinse the trap with hot water and then submerged it in water for few hours to get rid of the scent.

Another alternative is to use rat glue. There are two type, one is odorless and the other stink like mad...the choice is yours.:smile: Just aplly on a piece of plank and place a bait on it.

ps: When using rat poison, make sure you place a bowl of water nearby. This is because the poison only works if the rat drink water after consuming it.

jimmy0123 29th September 2010 09:27 PM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
Thx a lot guys for ur reply. I guess generally it is down to rat poison and caging. But i like the idea from AngkauTekor & CWay. Maybe if we can spray something that are very detestful to them mayb they wont come back....

NepNut 29th September 2010 10:56 PM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
My problems with rat tearing and chewing my pitcher is not that big... as it only happens once a while. My biggest problems are my dogs that will go nuts chasing those rats, tipping over pots of my neps, sometimes even snapping the main branch of my neps... Many neps that were growing nice have to be "restarted" again because it was up rooted or being damaged... :sweating::crying::unsure:

Vincent 30th September 2010 01:38 AM

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i would NOT be happy if this was happening to my plants. Maybe try blowing some of there brains out and pile the rodent bodies somewhere away from the plants, to attract them elsewhere. Those are your babies guys, dont think i am being too morbid;show them who’s boss ;) cheeze wrapped around decon works really good too..

rhealk 30th September 2010 09:53 AM

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WOW Wow wow, what a problem with these creatures.
Behold, let me present you with the ultimate solution... be it rats or tree shrews or mickey mouse...

Their doom's day is here! I have 4 of them and even the toad hardly have any peaceful days to live with!

Just drop me a message if you need one. LOL

kevyn chan 30th September 2010 09:58 AM

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hahahhaa.....i have this solution posted quite a while ago........hahahhahah

now i needed a harpy eagle or fossa to go against the monkeys....grrrrr

rhealk 30th September 2010 10:07 AM

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Oh, monkey is the real serious problem. They steal, they rob and they breed all the time.
No other better solution than to pouch them / poison them. I seen place with over populated pigtail macaque. It's hell. They're the mini version of terrorist!!

kevyn chan 30th September 2010 11:09 AM

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we dont have pigtail macaque here.....long tailed macaque is abundant infact over populated....they terrorized the Resort as well as the village areas. overlysmartass as they dont take baits, even at the very moment they see handsling, they will immediately find covers......they will tear off the pitchers, the leaves and the young shoots, jumped on the house roofs and sheds like playground.....total disaster.....

but coming back to the smaller version of destruction faced by jimmy and many others, i would like to check on something.....does the neps actually in hangpots? does your area has fruitbats.....not the flying fox but the small frugivorous bats.........? they posed the same problem as rats does....so, you have to determine whether you suffered from land or aerial attacks.....

rhealk 30th September 2010 11:20 AM

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Oh paiseh! It's supposed to be long tailed, not pig tailed *blush*
Yes, they're way too smart to the extend they become a nuisance. They form their own gangs and imagine you have few gangs near your house. No easy way out.

jimmy0123 30th September 2010 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rhealk (Post 33304)
Oh paiseh! It's supposed to be long tailed, not pig tailed *blush*
Yes, they're way too smart to the extend they become a nuisance. They form their own gangs and imagine you have few gangs near your house. No easy way out.

Ya this is what happen to me. They (tree shrew) like to come in gang and sometime u can hear them fighting with their rat-like noise and run around like mad bull knocking off my pot:spinning:. They usually very violent in that sort of way :glare:. I guess it's the same for all animal no matter where u r.

rhealk 30th September 2010 12:19 PM

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LOL. Life must be merrier with you 'neighbour' around.
My cats sometimes did that too, chasing around and climb up the tables where I place my plants. Then I'll just take out my rotan and they will know it is 'no-running-and-chasing-in-prohibited-area' Hahaha.

Vincent 30th September 2010 03:21 PM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
yeah,lol cats would be also a good rodent controller

sooxiwei 30th September 2010 03:32 PM

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cats are trouble maker to me, no difference from those rodents, at times they crap around my nep section, some times they tear off my pitchers...hate cats the most, that's why whichever pests visit me, I'll tear them apart, hanging their skulls arounds

rhealk 30th September 2010 11:21 PM

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Apuuuu... are those your cats? LOL. I just give them rotan one time when they try to be funny with my nep and they straight away know that they must not try to be funny with that round hanging thing any more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sooxiwei (Post 33315)
cats are trouble maker to me, no difference from those rodents, at times they crap around my nep section, some times they tear off my pitchers...hate cats the most, that's why whichever pests visit me, I'll tear them apart, hanging their skulls arounds


sooxiwei 1st October 2010 01:15 AM

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nope, those are not mine, there is a weird crap near my house with a house full of cats, inside and outside, the number...well 3 digit, and normally there are no one around, sounds strange yah, it'll be great if I can see it burned down to ashes since it leaves the cats to run free, they vandalized things around my place and once you try to teach them a lesson, they came back for revenge, well, since that's the case, WAR...

for a family consist of all the glorious predators...cats...what a disgrace...

Vincent 1st October 2010 03:22 AM

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lol then u guys need what i have, a miniature pincher. He is a breed of dog SPECIFICALLY trained in the olden days to hunt and kill rodents =) I trained him though to be sweet with my chinchilla, since he is in fact a tibetan squirrel.

funkychips 1st October 2010 09:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angkau Tekor (Post 33251)
Rats are smart and cunning...if you use trap that has caught other rat beforehand, they will never go near it as it has got the scent of the other rat on it. You need to rinse the trap with hot water and then submerged it in water for few hours to get rid of the scent.

Another alternative is to use rat glue. There are two type, one is odorless and the other stink like mad...the choice is yours. Just aplly on a piece of plank and place a bait on it.

ps: When using rat poison, make sure you place a bowl of water nearby. This is because the poison only works if the rat drink water after consuming it.

Thanks again for the details. I realise I did not try rat glue yet and when I'm using rat poison I did not place a water bowl nearby. I also did not properly clean the rat cage when the last one was caught about a month ago...

In other words there is HOPE *biggrin2*

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Originally Posted by NepNut (Post 33288)
My problems with rat tearing and chewing my pitcher is not that big... as it only happens once a while. My biggest problems are my dogs that will go nuts chasing those rats, tipping over pots of my neps, sometimes even snapping the main branch of my neps... Many neps that were growing nice have to be "restarted" again because it was up rooted or being damaged...

Yeah, I think it's worth the while to spare the anguish of a few damaged plants and to have your dogs guard your property though...if they are good at that...:tongue:

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhealk (Post 33299)
WOW Wow wow, what a problem with these creatures.
Behold, let me present you with the ultimate solution... be it rats or tree shrews or mickey mouse...

Their doom's day is here! I have 4 of them and even the toad hardly have any peaceful days to live with!

Just drop me a message if you need one. LOL

Pest control!! *biggrin2* They say that Japanese bobtail cats (supposedly our kampung cats brought to Japan and stylised as a breed) are good in their hunting skills. Someone told me once that her cat actually killed lizards, rats and birds but didn't eat it, brought it to her instead.....:spinning:

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Originally Posted by jimmy0123 (Post 33307)
Ya this is what happen to me. They (tree shrew) like to come in gang and sometime u can hear them fighting with their rat-like noise and run around like mad bull knocking off my pot. They usually very violent in that sort of way . I guess it's the same for all animal no matter where u r.

Happens whenever I'm doing my gardening on some Sunday mornings. They like to run across in front of me then stop, look at me for a second and dash off....:mad: And can you believe we are actually related to these guys, seriously???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent (Post 33340)
lol then u guys need what i have, a miniature pincher. He is a breed of dog SPECIFICALLY trained in the olden days to hunt and kill rodents =) I trained him though to be sweet with my chinchilla, since he is in fact a tibetan squirrel.

Vince, are Schnauzers also good for hunting rats? I was thinking of getting one as it doesn't shed its fur so much like most other dogs and it's not such a big breed so it can reach into some tight corners....I don't fancy pinschers as they bark too noisily for their small size...:spinning:

jimmy0123 6th October 2010 11:18 AM

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Here is the captured tree shrew (lure with jambu fruit) if anyone wondering how its look like. At last revenge:tongue:
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...3/P1010721.jpg

kevyn chan 6th October 2010 11:47 AM

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nice specimen, its a Tupaia glis, commonly known as common tree shrew...............released it to a 'far far away' bush, let it free......:1thumbup:

jimmy0123 6th October 2010 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kevyn chan (Post 33474)
nice specimen, its a Tupaia glis, commonly known as common tree shrew...............released it to a 'far far away' bush, let it free......:1thumbup:

Yup this is what im doing.But they always find a way to come back :mad:. One down few more to go haizzzz...

rhealk 6th October 2010 12:20 PM

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If this chap was caught in Sarawak, most likely he'll end up on a dinner plate.

kevyn chan 6th October 2010 01:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rhealk (Post 33478)
If this chap was caught in Sarawak, most likely he'll end up on a dinner plate.

hahhaa..i was about to comment....into the soup pot...however, due to its nature, behaviour and food regime....it is wiser not to do so due to contamination, bacteria and virus that it might carry......:shy:

Vincent 6th October 2010 04:18 PM

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they r so cute!!!!!but they gotta go,,sigh

rhealk 7th October 2010 11:08 AM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
More monkey business here:

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...113&sec=nation

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...841&sec=nation

Scary pest!

Just another thought in my mind - the monkey shot dead - probably was just an innocent unlucky black sheep who happen to be at nearby.

rhealk 8th October 2010 11:31 AM

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As expected, they shot a black sheep!

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...875&sec=nation

jimmy0123 8th October 2010 11:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rhealk (Post 33552)
As expected, they shot a black sheep!

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...875&sec=nation

Ya they usually very lazy to think and as long as they find a way to end it they will do that. So many of this kind of people in the gov how to achieved vision 2020 :closedeyes: ..........

sooxiwei 12th October 2010 08:13 AM

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Spotted this fella in Sri Petaling lrt station few days back...with stylish mohawk hair style(fans of Beck?...Beck of those days, not current)

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...rgod/003-7.jpg

Doing monkey business there alone, haha, left it alone since it doesn't seems to mess around

rhealk 15th November 2010 11:09 AM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
My turn to have war with roddents. :)
They ate my sundews, esp the seed pods. Sometimes the dig the sundews out and ate their base.
Wish me luck!
Didn't let my cat loose since my neighbour (the place where the rodent originated) is not so happy with my cats going over their place at night to catch roddents!

weeps 15th November 2010 11:38 AM

Re: Tree shrew problem
 
Try this magic, someone told me and not sure it is true.

Catch one, let it hungry, don,t give food.
Later maybe bring em to further a little, warn loudly ask not to come again before release.
My friend did it, and they never come again. We thought maybe they are so smart to tell their family not to disturb you again.
*biggrin2*Hopefully you don't get one that revenge.



Quote:

Originally Posted by rhealk (Post 34312)
My turn to have war with roddents. :)
They ate my sundews, esp the seed pods. Sometimes the dig the sundews out and ate their base.
Wish me luck!
Didn't let my cat loose since my neighbour (the place where the rodent originated) is not so happy with my cats going over their place at night to catch roddents!



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