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kentosaurs 15th December 2008 02:11 PM

Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Hi members!

As some of you know that I made my own little mini terrarium.....And so i was thinking on getting a N rajah for it...Why i choose this one because its a very slow grower and doesn't need much light....And i'm not sure if i can provide the perfect conditions in my littl terrarium....So heres the temp in my terrarium.I cool it down around after 10p.m

Day temp= 25-27C/77-80.6F

Night temp after 10+=13-16C/55.4-60.8F

In ther morning before i take the bottles out
=18C/64F

Humdity i'm not to sure but should be high enough since i can see condensation on my transparent plastic.

So anyone here who has experience with this guys think these conditions are OKAY?

Ken

plantlover 15th December 2008 05:03 PM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Yah, these conditions are OK.

kentosaurs 15th December 2008 05:14 PM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Hi Aaron

Thanks so hows yours now?...As you probally know i'm getting it from who....But no getting it so fast yet...still haven't even tell my dad about it..

Ken

plantlover 15th December 2008 05:22 PM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Mine is OK too. So far produced 2 more pitchers. And a little longer. The colour is darker now. You are getting it from Fauzi right?

Ifurita 15th December 2008 05:24 PM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Hi Ken,

Temps-wise, you're in the clear. Your conditions are far more friendly than mine, so it shouldn't be a problem. Don't worry about it too much, from my experience, N. rajah doesn't quite seem to be as tricky as its supposed to be, at least to grow. It can, however, take quite a while to recover from negative conditions(like shock, etc) and can be a bit more cranky about humidity when it comes to pitcher production.

plantlover 15th December 2008 05:27 PM

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Don't worry, Ken. Rajahs are easier than you think. I leave mine under the sun and rain and new pitchers pop up.

kentosaurs 15th December 2008 07:17 PM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Hi ifurita

Thanks for the advice.........Agreed with you that it does not live up to be one of the most difficult neps to cultivate as a lot say...For me here humidity shouldn't be much of a problem here...

Hi Aaron

If i get one i don't think they will even be under direct sunlight or even partial since its indoors...Probally just bright light...I guess suitable for it..Yours seem to be recovering from a change of enviroment quite quickly didn't it?

Ken

edwardyeeks 16th December 2008 01:46 PM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Well, the one problem from rajah that I have heard from other people is that it takes time to acclimatise from a sudden movement or transplant. Other than that, you should be patient, since rajah is a slow grower.

Cheers

plantlover 16th December 2008 03:01 PM

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Edward, I think Rajahs are not that slow. In one month maybe 1 leaf and another coming out.

edwardyeeks 16th December 2008 07:28 PM

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Fauzi said that sometimes rajah takes a long time to acclimatise. You must be lucky that your rajah adapted to your conditions real fast.

Cheers

kentosaurs 16th December 2008 09:15 PM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Well yeah i'm hoping it'll survive the posting stress hahaha.....And also not transplanting it...Its coming potted.

Ken

plantlover 16th December 2008 10:00 PM

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I transplanted it with no side effects.

kentosaurs 17th December 2008 08:33 AM

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So yours came bare rooted ah..... I see......

Ken

kentosaurs 17th December 2008 09:45 AM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Hi everyone

Just had a tincy question.....Most rajahs in the wild have their tendrills and pitcher bud rest on the spaghmum on the ground...So in cultivation do they have to put their pitchers on something too?

And yeah look at this link most of you might have seen before but man sooo many Rajahs.
http://pitcherplants.proboards34.com...ay&thread=3237

Ken

plantlover 17th December 2008 11:19 AM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Mine came in a pot but I transplanted it to an even larger pot.

kentosaurs 17th December 2008 11:29 AM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Hi Aaron

Do you think they actually need something to rest on for the pitchers to form????? Anyways if i were to have a rajah in a small pot and i turned it over and it comes out in a shape of the pot and then i add some "soil" into the bigger pot together with the pot shaped media does that count as repotting and does the plant feel the same amount of stress as changing the whole media?

Ken

plantlover 17th December 2008 04:34 PM

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Well as my pot is large the pitchers all rest on the media. Ken, that is how I transplant my rajah. I turn the plant upside down and pull the whole plant with the media and put into a bigger pot and add more media. It recovered very very quickly.

kentosaurs 17th December 2008 05:18 PM

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Okays thanks for the pics haha and saw you in a different forum haha.......

Ken

Aliamyz 19th December 2008 05:15 PM

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I heard that HL neps will live up to about a year and than they will start dieing..8 months for ultra-highlanders...isn't it sad?

kentosaurs 19th December 2008 09:58 PM

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You sure??? I don't think so.....Maybe it depends on what species you're talking about....Try using ventricosa as a example it'll last forever.

Ken

edwardyeeks 19th December 2008 11:02 PM

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Well, there is a difference between rajah and ventricosa. Rajah is a fussy guy who needs HL conditions. Ventricosa is very tolerant of LL conditions.

Cheers

plantlover 19th December 2008 11:19 PM

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My cute little rajah seems to be pitchering with no problems. I hope it will survive in the long term.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/h...Image000-1.jpg

kentosaurs 20th December 2008 08:57 AM

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Nice cute little rajah.......Do you spray it with ice water at night?????? Anyways i think i might be receiving mine around next week.

Ken

plantlover 20th December 2008 11:06 AM

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No, I rarely spray them at night. I just leave them to grow on their own. So far a new pitcher forming and 2 new leaves coming out.

Aliamyz 20th December 2008 11:37 AM

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Kne,

I'm talking about the sensitive guys like what Edward said...not the hardy guys!

kentosaurs 20th December 2008 01:49 PM

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Hi Aaron

Glad to hear that your rajah is thriving.

Hi Ali

Well yeah i kinda get it but was just putting up ventricosa somce you didn't really detailed it up.

Ken

edwardyeeks 20th December 2008 04:13 PM

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Not bad. Looks quite happy. You shoudl spray it during the night. They appreciate night time spray misting the most, Aaron.

Cheers

nbatp 20th December 2008 06:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 9875)
Well, the one problem from rajah that I have heard from other people is that it takes time to acclimatise from a sudden movement or transplant. Other than that, you should be patient, since rajah is a slow grower.

Cheers

I want to konw which HL neps grow fast, no experience on them.

edwardyeeks 20th December 2008 06:11 PM

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Nep alata, nep khasiana and some hybrids such as nep ventrata grow fast in HL conditions.

Cheers

nbatp 20th December 2008 07:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 10222)
Nep alata, nep khasiana and some hybrids such as nep ventrata grow fast in HL conditions.

Cheers

I think these neps are almost equal to LL neps, very easy to grow. I just want to know some real HL neps species.:laugh:

kentosaurs 20th December 2008 07:58 PM

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Hi

Well those are "real" HL neps....But if you want some challenge and beauty maybe go for aristo,lowii,rajah,hamata,trusmadiensis something like those.....Maybe N predator?

Ken

Aliamyz 20th December 2008 08:47 PM

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Ken,

xPredator is an intermediate.

nbatp 20th December 2008 09:28 PM

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Well I like hamata so much, but the price is too...I see many members in south Asia grow HL neps in their home with LL conditions, is it really? I think HL neps like big temperature distance between day and night, especially the low temperature at night, is it right?

Aliamyz 20th December 2008 10:11 PM

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Yes but you can grow hamata in LL conditions if you give it a very high humidity.That's what i read somewhere in another forum.

nbatp 20th December 2008 10:20 PM

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But the temperature in summer of south China is so high, average on 26C-37C. Maybe most HL neps can`t tolerate so high temperature. And the temperature at night is also reach 26C. So depressed...
Can you give me the link of the forum you said? Thank you!

Aliamyz 20th December 2008 10:28 PM

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May be here: LINK

nbatp 20th December 2008 10:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliamyz (Post 10249)
May be here: LINK

I see...
So good article!
Thank you!

kentosaurs 20th December 2008 11:01 PM

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Hi nbatp

Umm Well why not try to build a terrarium for your HL CPs???? Maybe start out with some easy growing ones first? For now Hamata is a little too expensive...Maybe a few years down the rode where more TC plants grow bigger than prices will go lower.

And Ali you seem to look at websites i visit a lot haha.

Ken

nbatp 20th December 2008 11:13 PM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kentosaurs (Post 10255)
Hi nbatp

Umm Well why not try to build a terrarium for your HL CPs???? Maybe start out with some easy growing ones first? For now Hamata is a little too expensive...Maybe a few years down the rode where more TC plants grow bigger than prices will go lower.

And Ali you seem to look at websites i visit a lot haha.

Ken

Yes. I want to get HL neps growing experience from rajah or some others. Can you recommend some easy growing to me? Thanks!

alcran 21st December 2008 12:56 AM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
If you can, eymae is an easy and colorful highlander. It handles heat very well. I have one that survived in the 100's day and night for a week.

nbatp 21st December 2008 01:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alcran (Post 10267)
If you can, eymae is an easy and colorful highlander. It handles heat very well. I have one that survived in the 100's day and night for a week.

Oh year. eyame is just in my want list hahha....:laugh:

edwardyeeks 21st December 2008 08:39 AM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
I like trusmadiensis. It is very unique looking.........actually, almost all HL neps are slow growing from my point of view. Those that do grow fast are common and not very wanted..........

Cheers

alcran 21st December 2008 09:29 AM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Plants like hamata and sp 2 grow pretty fast. Sp2 puts out 1 leaf in every 10 days. Hamata gets much faster when it gets older. And I think lowlanders grow slow.

nbatp 21st December 2008 09:35 AM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 10273)
actually, almost all HL neps are slow growing from my point of view. Those that do grow fast are common and not very wanted..........

Cheers

So do I...And I like ventricosa*TM more...

Aliamyz 21st December 2008 09:38 AM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Gymnamphora can be grown as either a lowlander,intermediate or highlander.

Mine is still haven't germinate though!

Ken,
That's my most favourite site ever.;)

Akirasama 21st December 2008 12:11 PM

Re: Nepenthes Rajah Cultivation
 
Just want to share some pic of my rajah...

I got it from fauzi almost 2 month already ( i guess is 2 month:tongue:)

the plant give me a darker red pitcher and the plant also going to produce 2 more pitcher, i hope it will be bigger and darker the color

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/p...5/DSC00020.jpg

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/p...5/DSC00021.jpg

nbatp 21st December 2008 12:24 PM

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So nice rajah! Do you grow it with ampullaria in LL condition?

Akirasama 21st December 2008 12:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nbatp (Post 10291)
So nice rajah! Do you grow it with ampullaria in LL condition?

I grow the rajah at the same place as where I grow my ampullaria but in different pot, I put the rajah on ampullaria so that it will be easy for me to take shoots
:tongue:

Aliamyz 21st December 2008 12:47 PM

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Nice Rajah Akira;)

plantlover 21st December 2008 05:52 PM

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So cute. I'm waiting for mine to produce pitchers as large as yours.


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