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NepNut 23rd September 2008 06:07 PM

N. albomarginata in Kedah
 
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Hi folks,

Since I got poisoned by neps not too many moons ago :laugh:, I've always wanted to see neps growing in the wild with my own eyes and study how and where they grew, I have never seen them in the wild before this trip. So this past sunday my friend and I had a chance to go recee and we managed to find common N. albomarginata but we didn't discover other species...:sad: It was just a half day trip but will definately return again in near future hopefully to be able to see more species.... :1thumbup:

Sorry for my "amateurist" photo... First time :blush: Also need to get better camera... :laugh:

Red albo
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Whole plant
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Some small albo red, they really don't need much substrate to grow on... wow
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To be continued....

natureye 23rd September 2008 06:16 PM

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Color looks good, bigger picture will be nice.
Take a look
http://natureye.com/nepenthes/nepent...marginata.html

David 23rd September 2008 06:26 PM

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Hi there cpnut,

It must have been thrilling for you to see them growing in the wild. I remembered the first time I saw albos growing in the wild, my heart just went bouncing like a ball. Can feel the blood rush though my veins.

I also noticed too that albos picther and plant will have reddish colouration when they are exposed to sunlight. Like you, those that I saw growing in the shade are green and most of them have no pitcher.

The site where I saw albos was in Perak and the media where some grow are also quite dry.

Good photos for your first try. Keep it up and keep us updated with pictures of nepenthes in Kedah ok? we can compare their growing condions in different locations etc. Thanks for posting

NepNut 23rd September 2008 06:33 PM

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This plant was found at a very dry site among rocks under direct sun... that's why so red :confused:
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this too at very dry rocks and direct sun
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albo "red speckle" ground pitcher
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Quite a few albos found under forest canopy, many plants got no pitcher at all...:confused: need sun :smile:
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Ohh... look, so cute :wub:
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Surprisingly, we saw more red albo and the red speckle or 2 tone ones... I think I only saw one with green upper. Hope you folks like it.

NepNut 23rd September 2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by natureye (Post 4156)
Color looks good, bigger picture will be nice.
Take a look
http://natureye.com/nepenthes/nepent...marginata.html

Your wish is my command.... :laugh: Picture enlarged... sorry first time posting :blush:

shawnintland 23rd September 2008 06:59 PM

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Great field trip photos CPNut! I've been trying to find shots of albos in nature, as I bought a large number of small ones from MT earlier this year and have been wondering just how to treat them. I love the way the leaves look on the majority of your first set of photos...really makes me want to run down and change my plants position to a drier environment than where they are now! Keep posting!

NepNut 23rd September 2008 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 4159)
Hi there cpnut,

It must have been thrilling for you to see them growing in the wild. I remembered the first time I saw albos growing in the wild, my heart just went bouncing like a ball. Can feel the blood rush though my veins.

Haha... my heart was like "pip pop pip pop".... :laugh: When I saw the 1st pitcher, I just stood still and just stared at it... didn't know what to do next...my mind just blank :laugh:

Hope future trip I'll be able to find a few more species and have something good to report back... Thanks. :1thumbup:

NepNut 23rd September 2008 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnintland (Post 4167)
Great field trip photos CPNut! I've been trying to find shots of albos in nature, as I bought a large number of small ones from MT earlier this year and have been wondering just how to treat them. I love the way the leaves look on the majority of your first set of photos...really makes me want to run down and change my plants position to a drier environment than where they are now! Keep posting!

Thanks Shawn, ya... from my observation, wild albo can definately tolerate very dry condition and direct sunlight. In fact, I saw better looking plants with nicer picthers all under direct sun. Also noted that they don't really need a lot of substrate to grow on, many grew on the rocky walls (if you take a look at the orientation of the picthers especially from the 1st set of the pics) with just a thin layer of moss.

Robert 24th September 2008 12:57 PM

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nice find. it's interesting to note the albos with red leaves but in cultivation they simply turn green:confused:

NepNut 24th September 2008 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert (Post 4209)
nice find. it's interesting to note the albos with red leaves but in cultivation they simply turn green:confused:

I guess mother nature still have a few tricks up her sleeves... :laugh: I have a albo red "rubra" from Fauzi, maybe I should try it under direct sunlight, hope it won't be cooked... :blink:

I only noticed small plants have this kind of red coloration whereas bigger or adult plants will have olive green color leaves, have anyone ever noticed this before? :confused:

Cindy 24th September 2008 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert (Post 4209)
nice find. it's interesting to note the albos with red leaves but in cultivation they simply turn green:confused:

I have a 'rubra' from EP. It had reddish purple leaves and red pitchers in bright/direct sunlight. It was growing in LFS/perlite.

Aliamyz 26th September 2008 09:25 AM

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But albo var rubra is all red right and i think it's because of too much sunlight same like rafflesiana.They're leaves turn dark purple in the wild!!

NepNut 2nd October 2008 09:43 PM

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Another day, another trip.... :smile:

LSM in exposed area
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LSM in shades
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albo babies
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Yo... black ant dude... come back in 2 months :laugh:
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More pics coming... :smile:

NepNut 2nd October 2008 09:52 PM

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new basal forming from crawling stem with upper pitchers
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albo red with ground pitchers
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Various form of pitchers for albo
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More....

NepNut 2nd October 2008 10:05 PM

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albos with green peristome
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Interesting Find.....

Red stem varience?
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Some kind of insect actually crawling in the pitcher fluid... repeat, "crawling" not "swimming". Some sort of symbiosis relationship???
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Just notice something was on the mid ribs of this plant after reviewing the pics
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Thanks for viewing .... :biggrin:

Aliamyz 2nd October 2008 11:33 PM

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Did you find any black variety Cpnut? Love those@!

NepNut 2nd October 2008 11:50 PM

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nope, not the "grey" or " black", probably not available in Peninsular Malaysia. But I still got many many area to explore... so you never know... :smile:

This is the darkest pitcher I came across but I think it's caused by age, however the leaves for this nep are very dark tone like it's pitcher... too bad I didn't take any pic... :thumbdown:
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shawnintland 2nd October 2008 11:53 PM

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Great shots in there CPNut! I especially like the "Various forms" plants...now I can't wait for the Penang Festival to go see them for myself! I really like the black pitchered variety too Ali! Anybody got pictures to post of them?

David 4th October 2008 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnintland (Post 4540)
Great shots in there CPNut! I especially like the "Various forms" plants...now I can't wait for the Penang Festival to go see them for myself! I really like the black pitchered variety too Ali! Anybody got pictures to post of them?

Below is a Grey form that I found in the State of Perak...

https://forum.petpitcher.net/pict...=1&pictureid=1

NepNut 4th October 2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 4628)
Below is a Grey form that I found in the State of Perak...

hmmm... interesting... there's hope for me yet :laugh:

Davvid, do you find many grey variety in Perak? Thanks for sharing.

David 4th October 2008 05:00 PM

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Not sure. However, in that particular location, there was only a bunch of them in one particular spot. The rest are green and red. Perhaps other locations might have some more.

Perhaps it's just a few odd plants.

NepNut 12th October 2008 08:09 PM

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Anyone ever seen this before on any albomarginata :confused:

Sorry lousy photos, it's a rainy day... :glare:

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No... I didn't use marker pen or photoshop. :laugh: Weird huh ??

shawnintland 12th October 2008 08:35 PM

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CPNut - did you happen to check inside the pitcher? The normally white cells are a 'bait' that the plant produces and which are easily detached by termites particularly. At the point that the termites have eaten off all the 'white' there are probably more than enough termites fallen to their death inside the pitcher. Any more and the pitcher can't digest them all in time and the pitcher/contents putrefy. I'm only guessing here, but could the plant have been out in the sun and when the white cells that normally cover that area were removed, it got a 'sunburn'? I'm up for anybody elses' explaination/guesses too!

Aliamyz 13th October 2008 09:38 AM

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Robert,
Was the whole plant with that pitcher colouration or just one pitcher?:confused:

kentosaurs 13th October 2008 10:38 AM

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Hi Cpnut

Wah never seen a albo colour like that....waaayyyy nicer than some of the other albo colours.

Ken

David 13th October 2008 12:38 PM

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This is odd. But I can see that the white hairs are all gone. Simon, does the other pitchers on the same plant have this same black colour?

NepNut 13th October 2008 02:44 PM

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I found another plant nearby which have the same thing happend to it's pitcher. The new pitcher is normal like any red albo, the plants also look normal, just these older pitchers... I have seen pitchers where the white band is partly gone just like old paint falling off from the wall and there's no sign of this balck marking. The plant is not exposed to direct sunlight, it's was slightly under shade in the forest canopy as far as I can tell from the rainy weather that day.

From most of my observation, the main "diet" for the albo there are black ants (up to 3cm) and some winged insects. Never saw any termites in the picther before. I'm guessing it might be somekind of fungus that grow on where the white band suppose to be?? I'll keep my eyes open for the same "phenomenon" my next trip there, maybe go back to check on the same picther... this is by far the 1st time ever I saw this. I actually thought it's very cool to have a black band instead of white, would be great if can replicate what had happend there...

NepNut 10th November 2008 09:09 PM

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Went to visit some albos again last weekend, got some pics to share, hope you'll enjoy :smile:

albo pitcher with black band again... I saw a few this phenomenon on some older pitchers. Still a mystery what caused it though :confused:.
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The whole plant
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The same plant with it's newly opened picher, it's actually quite a decent pitcher :wub:
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2 Toned peristome.... interesting coloration :wub:. Sorry have to use flash, it's very hard to take good shot for closeup under low light
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Another shot wihout flash :blush:
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The whole plant, even the coloration of the picthers follow the same color theme... :laugh:
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albo squad form?? I have seen quite a few pitchers of albos but not many have such a squad pitcher. Can anyone verify this??
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Group shot. As you can see all the picthers from this particular nep have the same squad form
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Cute little pitcher... what make this special it's actually an upper picther from an adult nep
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Olive green pitcher
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Is this albo "rubra" form?? Can anyone shed some light? Thanks.
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