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nepaholic 11th November 2008 07:56 PM

Tissue Culture Thread
 
Hi

just want to show some jars from me.

Here a VFT from Seed (5month old)
http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/11.08/img_0655.jpg

VFT Red form. TC from Leaf cutting, Now develop their first leaves after i replant this to plain media.
http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/11.08/img_0657.jpg

VFT B52 make now callus. i just transferred it to plain media and hope there come the first leaves soon
http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/11.08/img_0658.jpg

here some other VFT from seeds
http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/11.08/img_0660.jpg

http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/11.08/img_0662.jpg

Jens

kentosaurs 11th November 2008 11:38 PM

Re: Tissue Culture Thread
 
Hi Nepaholic

Nice VFts I like them.........You grew the seeds inside the syrup thingy????????????

Ken

plantlover 12th November 2008 12:11 AM

Re: Tissue Culture Thread
 
Nice VFTs. How long did it take for them to germinate??

nepaholic 12th November 2008 12:31 AM

Re: Tissue Culture Thread
 
Thank you

it takes 4-6 weeks for germination in TC.
But then they grow very fast.
The last 2 seedlings i sow in august. So they germinate in September.

You can see how fast they grow, every day

Jens

arvin555 12th November 2008 01:37 AM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
may we know what TC medium you use and what preparations you made in terms of chemicals, etc. on your seed and on your leaf cutting? Did you use hormones, etc?

I'm hoping that I can finally buy a TC kit and start a project similar to yours.

Oh and where do you keep the bottles? What lighting?

TTFN
Arvin

nepaholic 12th November 2008 07:14 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Hi Leafs are little bit tricky and i recommend to learn first TC with seeds.
I use 1/4 ms for seeds, for leafs just add 1ml/L Bap.
Seeds i sterilise 15min in 10%Bleach
Why you want to buy a kit?
You can build a simple transfer box with gloves. thats cheaper.

Jens

Jonathan 12th November 2008 07:35 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Hi Jens...

How are you doing bro? it has been so long since we last chatted...

Nice Tc plant... good job... :1thumbup::1thumbup::1thumbup:

Later i might wanna get some info from you^^

Regards
Jonathan

nepaholic 12th November 2008 08:06 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Hi Jonathan

everything its ok. Just a little bit busy :)
How are you?

plantlover 12th November 2008 09:03 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Can it be done with any CP seeds??

plantlover 12th November 2008 09:03 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
BTW what's that syrup-thingy.

edwardyeeks 12th November 2008 09:18 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Yeah, whats that liquid, I am interested. Perhaps an alternative to a different media finally!

Cheers

nepaholic 12th November 2008 10:00 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
here are some links for all who didn´t know what TC is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_medium

Jonathan 12th November 2008 11:03 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nepaholic (Post 7509)
Hi Jonathan

everything its ok. Just a little bit busy :)
How are you?


Hej Bro,

Jag mår bra, tack:biggrin:
jag brukar skickar somliga Viking frö vara benägen att du,
då jag skör...
PM mig, :smile:

Ta hand om dig, hej då

Regards
Jonathan

plantlover 12th November 2008 11:44 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Ooh.....what language is that??

nepaholic 13th November 2008 12:15 AM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plantlover (Post 7552)
Ooh.....what language is that??

Swedish

arvin555 13th November 2008 03:09 AM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Jonathan, thanks for your reply about what medium, etc. you use. appreciate it. Actually I was going to buy a TC kit that includes agar, MS, etc. it does not come with a laminar flow box, etc. Which now you mentioned it, do you do your TC in your "kitchen" meaning you made your own box? May I request for a photo of your setup? :)

To the others who were asking for info about the medium and didn't visit the link, basically that syrupy thing is agar medium, it is not really syrupy because it is like jello, heck one can say it's jello. I have some Gelatine mix now because I wanted to experiment, my first experiment failed, the Jello never stayed hard in room temperature. Also you can't technically use it for outdoor or normal potting, because the medium, if you enrich with nutrients for the plants, can help mold, bacteria, etc. grow quickly, thus if your medium gets contaminated with mold for example, your plant will be compromized. I am still new to this so I hope what I said was accurate, anyone please jump in if any of what I said is incorrect. :)

TTFN
Arvin

nepaholic 13th November 2008 03:18 AM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
hi

I build a laminar flow hood self. Very expensive things but veryg good.
Since i have this, i had no contaminations.
Here is my flowhood:
http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/07.08/img_8896.jpg

http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/07.08/img_8895.jpg

http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/07.08/img_8901.jpg

http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/07.08/img_8905.jpg

The candle is just for checking the flow
http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/07.08/img_8909.jpg

David 13th November 2008 10:07 AM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Jens, That's impressive workmanship. Nicely done!

plantlover 13th November 2008 11:56 AM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Ooh how confusing.

Jonathan 13th November 2008 12:05 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arvin555 (Post 7558)
Jonathan, thanks for your reply about what medium, etc. you use. appreciate it. Actually I was going to buy a TC kit that includes agar, MS, etc. it does not come with a laminar flow box, etc. Which now you mentioned it, do you do your TC in your "kitchen" meaning you made your own box? May I request for a photo of your setup? :)

To the others who were asking for info about the medium and didn't visit the link, basically that syrupy thing is agar medium, it is not really syrupy because it is like jello, heck one can say it's jello. I have some Gelatine mix now because I wanted to experiment, my first experiment failed, the Jello never stayed hard in room temperature. Also you can't technically use it for outdoor or normal potting, because the medium, if you enrich with nutrients for the plants, can help mold, bacteria, etc. grow quickly, thus if your medium gets contaminated with mold for example, your plant will be compromized. I am still new to this so I hope what I said was accurate, anyone please jump in if any of what I said is incorrect. :)

TTFN
Arvin


Hi Arvin...

I guess you got the wrong guy... you should be thanking Jens... :1thumbup:

Hej Bro...

looks very good and very impressive.... hope i could get the the blue print of the laminar floor hood from you...

Regards
Jonathan

arvin555 13th November 2008 03:04 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Yes my apologies, Thanks Jens, and thanks for sharing your Laminar flow system. May I know if there are any free plans for these in the internet, or maybe a way for you to share your design?

Your system looks really nice! There are some TC labs in universities here that use a more simple system of a closed box with glass and working with gloves, where you put your hands in the gloves from outside so that the box is "sealed", the problem I think is it is difficult to still prevent contaminants from coming in when you open the box to put in materials and instruments.

TTFN
Arvin

nepaholic 13th November 2008 05:47 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Thanks Guys

here it the plan i build my flowhood after. They are nearly same. i just bought an other blower. but my blower have nearly same power.

http://www.orchideenvermehrung.at/english/lfh/index.htm

edwardyeeks 13th November 2008 08:47 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Ooohhhh......what is a laminar flow system? It looks well-built, I wonder, does it control the flow of air??:confused:

John, I didn't know you could write swedish. Cool!

Yes, that was certainly educational, I think that will be a important ingredient in the CP world one day.....

Cheers

plantlover 13th November 2008 10:00 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Ooh...I hope I can germinate darlingtonia in TC jello. That will make them grow faster.

marvin1997 16th November 2008 05:49 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
So,how did you get the jelly thingy?(still didn't get the name.........zzzzzzzz)

marvin1997 16th November 2008 05:52 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
TC Jelly?

nepaholic 17th November 2008 01:32 AM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
the gelling agent is agar, mixed with MS medium and some other things

Jens

marvin1997 2nd December 2008 02:46 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Does nurseries sell them?

undentified 4th December 2008 02:08 AM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marvin1997 (Post 8950)
Does nurseries sell them?

nursery didn't sell them, you can buy it online or see if someone you know is doing tissue culture lab.

undentified 4th December 2008 02:20 AM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
i want to ask about the system, did you use UV light to sterilize the compartment before you started to use it?

nepaholic 4th December 2008 05:39 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
No i just clean the bench with alcohol before i start work in it.
I can have jars open for 30min without any contaminations.

Jens

nepaholic 4th December 2008 06:23 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Here some new Pictures. Sorry for the poor quality, It is not easy to take photos of plants inside jars

VFT Giant
http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/12.08/img_0952.jpg

B52 now develop the first leafes
http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/12.08/img_0953.jpg

Drosera peltata
http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/12.08/img_0955.jpg

Red VFT
http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/12.08/img_0956.jpg

http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/12.08/img_0957.jpg

http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/12.08/img_0959.jpg

Red from Leaf Tissue
http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/12.08/img_0961.jpg

D. auriculata
http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/12.08/img_0963.jpg

Jens

edwardyeeks 4th December 2008 06:49 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Nice plants. I find out that the seed cultured germinated faster.

Cheers

arvin555 4th December 2008 11:45 PM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Hey I actually agree, I wonder why not many TC labs use UV light to sterlize the case before working, that should technically work well! I do like Jen's system, very simple yet he is producing nice TC plants.

By the way when you posted VFT red from leaf tissue, does that mean the leaf or the white part of the leaf?

As usual great work and informative! Need to get going and order my kit soon :)

TTFN
Arvin

nepaholic 5th December 2008 12:47 AM

Re: VFT TC Pictures
 
Quote:

Hey I actually agree, I wonder why not many TC labs use UV light to sterlize the case before working, that should technically work well!
Hi
First it is expensive. And Alcohol work faster. If you want to sterilize with UV lights it needs severall hours to be clean. Alcohol works directly.

Quote:

I do like Jen's system, very simple yet he is producing nice TC plants.
Why simple? It is a flowhood like the big labs also use, just cheaper because i build it self.
I tryd many different ways to do TC but this is really the best.
I tried over a cooking pot, gloveboxes....

Gloveboxes are good if you want to start with TC and it is also cheap to build.

Quote:

By the way when you posted VFT red from leaf tissue, does that mean the leaf or the white part of the leaf?
I used the white part of the leaf.
Here you can see a picture of the same plant, just 1 month ago
http://pics.nepenthes.se/forumpics/11.08/img_0657.jpg

@edwardyeeks
you really think they are faster?
I think not because VFT seeds germinate 2-3 later as usual. Also Nepenthes and Drosera
Tc needs some time but then after a while the seeds/plants whatever kick off :)

Jens


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