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NepNut 9th July 2009 02:22 AM

L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
Hi,
Got a chance to go check out some wild nep sites some where in southern Thailand. It's great to be able to see nepenthes species like N. kongkandana, N. ampullaria, N. gracilis, N. mirabilis and the hybrids in situ where they grew naturally. Here are some of the pics that I would like to share with you all... enjoy.

Site 1 : N. kongkandana

N. kongkandana-01
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9943/thorelii01.jpg

N. kongkandana-01 Close up shot of the stem
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/8...i01closeup.jpg

N. kongkandana-01 Pitcher
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8...i01pitcher.jpg

N. kongkandana-02
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7153/thorelii02.jpg

N. kongkandana-02 Pitcher
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8...i02pitcher.jpg

N. kongkandana-03
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2921/thorelii03.jpg

N. kongkandana-04
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/46/thorelii04.jpg

N. kongkandana-05
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/45/thorelii05.jpg

N. kongkandana-06
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7532/thorelii06.jpg

N. kongkandana-07
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2568/thorelii07.jpg

N. kongkandana-08
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2179/thorelii08.jpg

N. kongkandana-09
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4172/thorelii09.jpg

N. kongkandana-10
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1319/thorelii10.jpg

N. kongkandana-11
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5096/thorelii11.jpg

N. kongkandana-12
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/5328/thorelii12.jpg

N. kongkandana-13
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/770/thorelii13.jpg

N. kongkandana- various form of pitchers from one locality
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/13/thorelii14.jpg

N. kongkandana-habitat 1
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/647...iihabitat1.jpg

N. kongkandana-habitat 2
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/1...iihabitat2.jpg

N. kongkandana-disturbed soil
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7624/thoreliisoil.jpg

Guess what I found growing side by side with the neps??
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7480/drosera1.jpg

For more details please goto https://forum.petpitcher.net/showthread.php?t=2638

More to come..... Site 2 : N. ampullaria, N. mirabilis & N. gracilis *biggrin2*

shawnintland 9th July 2009 09:20 AM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
Great trip photos! This is the first I've seen of the Thorellii growing in the sand like that. Amazing...and it looks so dry! I also hadn't suspected the smallish leafed stem, almost like a gracils. Seems like most have the reddish underside of the lid...is that what you found? Were the sites spread out far apart or all close together? Thanks again,
~Shawn

kentosaurs 9th July 2009 10:06 AM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
Wow......When in the world did you go to southern thailand lol.....Man i can't wait for those pics of gracilis and mirabilis

David 9th July 2009 10:24 AM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
I enjoy every one of them. Thanks

TranMinh 9th July 2009 10:33 AM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
They grow under electric net ? I love the picture thank !

NepNut 9th July 2009 10:49 PM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
Thanks guys for the comments.

Shawn,
I only managed to scout a small area but been told there's even more if travel deeper into the bush. The sad thing is that the surrounding area is slowly but surely being converted to farm land for agriculture.

NepNut 9th July 2009 11:26 PM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
Site 2 : N. ampullaria, N. mirabilis, N. gracilis & N. x kuchingensis

This site is another locality with different environment

The entrance : neps were found inside the forest
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8219/ampentrance.jpg

Exposed soil
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1672/ampsoil.jpg

amp-01
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/262/amp01.jpg

amp-02
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9374/amp02.jpg

Dried up amp, the stem being chopped off as people clear a path into the forest :crying:
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/340/amp03p.jpg


Flowers
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/3442/amp04.jpg


amp-03
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/8992/amp05.jpg


amp-04 Have to clear away the leaves to take pic coz it was buried
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3677/amp06.jpg


amp-05
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6012/amp07.jpg


amp-06
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1323/amp08.jpg


amp-07
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2981/amp09.jpg


amp-07 Pitchers 1
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6...p09pitcher.jpg


amp-07 Pitchers 2
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4879/amp09pitcher2.jpg


amp-08 Only managed to find one with spotted pitcher
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2561/amp10.jpg


amp-09
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5365/amp11i.jpg


mirabilis-01
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2504/mirabilis01.jpg


mirabilis-01 Pitcher
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/532...s01pitcher.jpg


mirabilis-02
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4254/mirabilis02.jpg


kuching-01 When you have both N. mirabilis & N. ampullaria living side by side, this will be the end result
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9805/kuching01.jpg


gracilis-01 Basals
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1331/gracilis01.jpg


gracilis-02
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3131/gracilis02.jpg

Site 3 : N. mirabilis & N gracilis to be continued...

kentosaurs 10th July 2009 08:59 AM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
MIRABILIS!!!!! AHH!!! SOO NICE...

arvin555 10th July 2009 11:50 AM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
In your photo amp 07 there is a lone big pitcher amongst the Amps, wonder how it got there.... mirabilis right?

Nice that you also saw natural hybrids!

Didn't know that Gracilis pitchers grew that big!

TTFN
Arvin

NepNut 10th July 2009 10:25 PM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
Hi Arvin,
It's not uncommon to see different species of nep growing side by side of each other literally...

NepNut 10th July 2009 11:10 PM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
Site 3 : N. mirabilis & N. gracilis


This is the 3rd site. Different type of forest, more undergrowth on the forest floor as sunlight can penetrate better with sparse canopy.


Site 3 : Habitat
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1...te3habitat.jpg

mirabilis-01
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6559/mirabilis01c.jpg

mirabilis-02
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/530/mirabilis02z.jpg

mirabilis-03
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3024/mirabilis03.jpg

mirabilis-04
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6730/mirabilis04.jpg


mirabilis-05 What a beauty !! :wub::wub:
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7135/mirabilis05.jpg

mirabilis-06 Sorry for the blurry pic. I've noticed some N. mirabilis from this location have slightly squatter/fatter lower pitchers. Perhaps it's a link to the evolutionary path of N. globosa "Viking" ??

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8749/mirabilis06.jpg

mirabilis-07
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/366/mirabilis07.jpg

gracilis-01
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1331/gracilis01.jpg

gracilis-02
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3131/gracilis02.jpg

gracilis-03
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9974/gracilis03.jpg

gracilis-04
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5788/gracilis04.jpg

gracilis-05
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7835/gracilis05.jpg

gracilis-06
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9188/gracilis06.jpg

Thanks for viewing, sorry for the long long post even it's just for some common L/L neps but I felt it's important for me to document and share among fellow enthusiast. I have a strong feeling it's just a matter of time before what I saw will be all gone in the name of "human development". :crying:

TranMinh 11th July 2009 12:34 AM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
Hi,
Thank you for sharing picture, really nice picture !

NepNut 15th July 2009 09:30 PM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
Just some update, after reviewing "Pitcher Plant of the Old World" Vol 1 by Steward McPherson, I think the N. thorelii that I have observed could have been the "undescribed" N. kongkandana.

Jonathan 15th July 2009 11:32 PM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
Hello there bro.

Thank you very much for sharing this update:smile:
and such wonderful picture. God... don't know when i could go
on a trip again...


regards
Jonathan

David 16th July 2009 09:53 AM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
Hey Jon! Great to see you back on the forum. Finnaly got your internet access up in the steaming tropical jungles of Sabah eh.

Man! I just love mirabilis-05 aka hot-hot lips!

Do you guys think that some of them might be hybrids or thorelii?

Gracilis-4 is a very beautiful specimen... all red on its picthers. That's red colour and not maroon right? Are all the pitchers on this plant red in colour? I know TS will go gaga when he sees this red gracilis. :)

NepNut 16th July 2009 01:26 PM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
You're very much welcome Jon... if you're in Sabah now, I envy you more.... *biggrin2*

David,

Ya, gotta love the mirabilis "hot2 lip" :wub:, this form of mirabilis will have red/maroon lower pitchers, the uppers will be the "hot lip". For Site 3, as far as I can observe, there's only N. mirabilis, N. gracilis and it's hybrid (only 1 specimen as far as I can find).

I also love the red/maroon form of N. gracilis, there's only a few plants that produce this kind of pitcher and all the pitcher have similar coloration.

Maybe can ask Dr. Charles to check if whether the N. thorelii from Site 1 is in fact N. kongkandana :confused:. That will be so exicting... *biggrin2*

bactrus 16th July 2009 02:02 PM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
Then better hurry before the land is plough.

bactrus 17th July 2009 11:11 AM

Re: L/L Nepenthes in southern Thailand
 
Jonathan in KK move to new thread. https://forum.petpitcher.net/showthread.php?t=2676


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