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« Thread Started on Jun 24, 2007, 11:34am »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif After a couple of weeks of looking around, I finally found what I think to be limestone rocks & have repotted my n.northiana. I used a pot with holes to provide better aeration as I imagine the original location for this plant would be pretty airy & windy....i.e. cliffs....

I`ve put some s/moss around the root areas for better moisture but will probably take it out once the plant stabilises.

Do let me know if I could do anything better.

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« Reply #1 on Jun 24, 2007, 12:52pm »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Tarence,

My personal opinion is that the rocks you use in the pics could be too big. Anyway, just my own take on this. You can try and error I guess.

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« Reply #2 on Jun 24, 2007, 12:59pm »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Hi,
i agree with isaacgoh too. besides, may be you can divide the plant into four for a higher chance of survivability!
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« Reply #3 on Jun 24, 2007, 11:22pm »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Thx Isaac & Ding...appreciate your inputs......

Btw, how would you imagine the n.northiana growing in the wild ? I only know it`s on limestone hills......and my fertile imagination is influencing me to `believe` that it virtually `hangs` on for dear life on these cliffs. Haha. Has anyone sighted pictures? Would be way cool to see them in the wild.

Ding: there are actually 5 branches ! one is hidden. I`m so tempted to break them up but well....they seem to be pretty delicate. Also don`t want to wait for the cuttings to take root, recover etc as some of the leaves are already having pitchers....

it`s been a long, hard, winding road.......naw, just kidding.....
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« Reply #4 on Jun 28, 2007, 8:53pm »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif haha. it's up to you! hope that it won't give you any trouble. happy growing ya!
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« Reply #5 on Jun 28, 2007, 9:07pm »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Tarence, try meristem propagation.It will not hurt the plant. Once rooted cut them off and you'll have another northiana http://s3.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
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« Reply #6 on Jun 29, 2007, 9:31am »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Have you tried it Robert ? Is the plant hormone essential in the technique ? I`m just starting to read articles on it....thx for the suggestion.
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« Reply #7 on Jun 29, 2007, 5:31pm »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif yes i have. Sometimes it doesn't root as the plant can heal the cuts by itself ie callus form over the cut area with no roots. The good thing is the section above the cut will not die. Under this situation make another fresh cut (if u wished to).
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« Reply #8 on Jun 30, 2007, 1:50pm »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Ok, i`ll try it then if i`m feeling adventurous......Heheh.
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« Reply #9 on Jul 19, 2007, 9:57am »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Guys,

How are your northies?

Mine is growing very big now but still no pitchers!! The new leaves are much bigger, at least 10" size leaves(plant is more than 1 feet tall). All the leaves have a small pitcher bud at the end of the tip but they just would not grow into a pitcher for me.

Wondering what I can do to have a northiana pitcher. Someone did tell me to give it more time because northies seems to be a sensitive type to its new surroundings. So, it's not advisable to move them around too much.

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« Reply #10 on Jul 19, 2007, 10:31am »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Mine is just stagnant in growth. Not getting bigger and no new leaves. Kinda like a plastic plants. Always green but no growth. But I have not given up on this "pet" of mine.
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« Reply #11 on Jul 19, 2007, 10:36am »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif
Quote:Mine is just stagnant in growth. Not getting bigger and no new leaves. Kinda like a plastic plants. Always green but no growth. But I have not given up on this "pet" of mine.

David,

I have two small northies that is the same batch as yours. I'm keeping them in my indoor tank. It's not growing too good but it's at least throwing new leaves once in a while with pitchers too. From my observation, they don't like too high humidity in the air. I think it's time for me to move them out slowly into the balcony.

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« Reply #12 on Jul 19, 2007, 10:49am »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Eh, what media u use? I am using 2 parts perlite and 1 part coconut peat. Don't know if this works.
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Quote:Eh, what media u use? I am using 2 parts perlite and 1 part coconut peat. Don't know if this works.

Oh yeah, you reminded me. Maybe I should change the media for the northies plantlets but it's pity to remove the wonderful live peat moss already growing on it. I'm currently growing it with perlite with the thin top layer sphagnum moss.

My big northy is growing very well with nursery clay soil mixed with lime stone aquarium pebbles. So, I should probably change the small plant's media to clay soil.

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« Reply #14 on Jul 19, 2007, 12:08pm »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Hmm, got to move my butt to search for soem alkaline media.
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« Reply #15 on Jul 19, 2007, 1:25pm »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif David : you can have my limestone rocks on sunday.....since i changed the medium 3 weeks ago, my plant seems to be more vigorous...in producing dead leaves ! just kidding. the growth seems to be a little faster. you can try if you want.
isaac : Liang told me that the pitcher gotta reach the ground or some support for it to grow properly or huge. i`ve seen pics of it in the wild. usually it rests on the ground as the pitchers are huge.
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« Reply #16 on Jul 19, 2007, 1:31pm »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Hey Tarence, you're back. Just posted in the interaction section telling members you will be on a short sabbathticla leave from the forum. Glad you are back.
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Erm... when will i get to have my hand on a N. Northiana??? haiz.... haha.... but it's still great to hear story of them from you lucky guys....
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« Reply #19 on Jul 23, 2007, 10:51am »http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Greetings and salutations,
I have a little comment regarding the northiana growing media. While they do grow above limestone base bedrock, many of them have a surface layer rich in composted, acidic peat-sphagnum. I have notice how these grow through the acidic supra-layers and have their root tips reach down deep into the lime below.
This is very evident in many northiana hybrids (northiana x veitchii, Mixta, Cincta, etc.) where the roots grow profusely through a thick acidic base media, then when they hit deeper into the lime, they really take hold.
An example I noticed is when I grow some of my plants in black plastic mesh pots pn top of a cement wall, the plants grow profusely until a specific point in time when the roots penetrate the cement wall. A noticeable change occurs and the plants take on a thicker, leathery appearance. Once I decided to repot a large Mixta, I noticed that the mesh pot was glued to the cement wall top. I was puzzled how this could happen. I finally got a machete and sliced through to separate the pot and wall and come to the surprise that a million tiny black roots had penetrated the wall's pores and entered a layer beneath the mesh pot. I did not have any lime or coral chips in the pot at the time this occurred. My conclusion is that the roots had penetrated that layer where the substrate was rather alkaline, even though the media where it grew was acidic.
My idea is to add lime to the bottom most layer of your pot like a drainage material/crock and the roots will enter this zone andthe plant gets more robust.

I have also seen this happen with a sub-genus of hoyas in the section Eriostemma where this group grows best in coral substrates. Once coral chips are added to their soil, the plant takes off and doesn't stop blooming.

I would also be interested how coral in some soil types behave. I bet N. globosa, N. treubniana, insignis, etc. would behave similarly.

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« Reply #20 on Jul 23, 2007, 11:14am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Thx for sharing Michael. Good to know your personal experience. At the moment, I `m still trying to locate limestone or coral chips. Apparently what I got the other day was merely granite. Everyone says go to construction site, can find at the roadside etc but we simply do not know for sure what limestone looks like. « Last Edit: Jul 23, 2007, 11:36am by tarence »Link to Post - Back to Top http://s4.images.proboards.com/ip.gif 203.106.226.24 isaacgoh
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« Reply #21 on Jul 23, 2007, 11:25am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Dear Michael,

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« Reply #22 on Jul 23, 2007, 11:33pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Hi Michael! Welcome and thanks for the insight. http://s4.images.proboards.com/smiley.gif
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« Reply #23 on Jul 27, 2007, 2:14am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Anyone has a male N. northiana male in bloom?

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« Reply #24 on Aug 12, 2007, 2:15pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif My N. Northaina

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« Reply #25 on Aug 12, 2007, 9:06pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif nice! under what kind of light conditions do you grow the N. northiana?

i have mine growing under shade now, but am wondering if they would do better with more sun?
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« Reply #26 on Aug 13, 2007, 2:08am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif I grow northaina in ful sun no wind and rain, soil have limestone and give (Ca2+) « Last Edit: Aug 13, 2007, 2:12am by seree »Link to Post - Back to Top http://s4.images.proboards.com/ip.gif 203.113.32.12 hongrui
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« Reply #27 on Aug 13, 2007, 8:05am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif thanks! i guess i'll just keep it at where it is for another 6months or so before deciding to move it or not.
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« Reply #28 on Sept 2, 2007, 11:47am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif here`s what my baby northiana looks like now after more than 2 months of re-potting using new medium of granite & vermaculite...there are tiny pitchers all over the place...the biggest being about 1 inch...i counted 7 pitchers....

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« Reply #29 on Sept 2, 2007, 10:22pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif wow tarence! i wonder how long i'll have to wait too see a single pitcher on my northiana
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« Reply #30 on Sept 3, 2007, 8:59am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif i got mine as a very small plant about 14 months ago & it oredi had many offshoots then. it was just bought at a morning market in kuching by chua for rm8 i believe & we waited with bated breath to see of this plant could survive. Pitchers....we daren`t hope coz we kinda figured this nep was a lil` difficult to keep...but well, for rm8...why not try ?
so finally after more than a year...it kinda decided to end the pitcherless period.
mine currently gets direct morning sun from 8-11 a.m....the way i see it, that`s how it grows in the wild....
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« Reply #31 on Sept 3, 2007, 9:21am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Wow, lucky you Tarence. Rm8 is very cheap for a northiana.

My big northiana female refuse to pitcher for me still. I'm happy just to see her throw out some big and nice leaves for now. Let her figure out when she will pitcher.

However, my 2 northiana seedlings had a growth spurt recently and is throwing out pitchers too. Waiting for them to grow into a nice size to be transferred outdoor.

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« Reply #32 on Sept 3, 2007, 9:46am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Good to know Isaac.....happy Northiana-ing....
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« Reply #33 on Sept 3, 2007, 10:05am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif
Quote:Good to know Isaac.....happy Northiana-ing....

Looking at your plant, I would be tempted to do a cutting seeing that it has a number of side shoots. http://s4.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif
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« Reply #34 on Sept 3, 2007, 10:16am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif yeah i know....i`m so tempted too...

David : did the cutting i gave you survive ?
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« Reply #35 on Sept 4, 2007, 12:37am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif I have found that N. northiana are water hogs. Give it ample water and allow the media to run freely with excess water every few days. This helps makes big pitchers and allows the plants to develop a better root system.

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« Reply #36 on Sept 4, 2007, 8:52am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif My current medium of granite rocks & vermaculite drains within 5 seconds or less I`m afraid...but I do make it a point of wetting the nep as much as I can...thx for tip....
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« Reply #37 on Sept 5, 2007, 9:16am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif
Quote:David : did the cutting i gave you survive ?

Yaa, still "existing". Growth has been stagnant. Only recently it started to grow new leaves.
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« Reply #38 on Sept 5, 2007, 10:32am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif
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Quote:David : did the cutting i gave you survive ?

Yaa, still "existing". Growth has been stagnant. Only recently it started to grow new leaves.

David,

How is your northiana seedling doing?

Mine is doing quite well in my terrarium. I almost gave up on them. They like it moist but not soaking wet (no plate).

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« Reply #39 on Sept 5, 2007, 10:35pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif well,Isaac what's wrong with your northiana?
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« Reply #40 on Sept 6, 2007, 10:05am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif
Quote:well,Isaac what's wrong with your northiana?

Big one no problem, just not pitchering yet. Small ones are doing well, no complaints because I can see they are growing bigger already. Maybe in another few weeks I'll take a picture of the ****es.
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« Reply #41 on Sept 6, 2007, 10:41am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Anyone of you notice that the northiana puts out the pitcher only after several new leaves?

My N. campanulata does that too. I look at the leaf tip and I tell yourself "Oh no, the tip is dead"...then 2-3 leaves later, this tip starts to balloon and develop into a pitcher. http://s4.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif
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« Reply #42 on Sept 6, 2007, 10:51am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Gee, never noticed that Cindy. I`ll go & check later in the evening at home.
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« Reply #43 on Sept 6, 2007, 11:09am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif
Quote:Anyone of you notice that the northiana puts out the pitcher only after several new leaves?

My N. campanulata does that too. I look at the leaf tip and I tell yourself "Oh no, the tip is dead"...then 2-3 leaves later, this tip starts to balloon and develop into a pitcher. http://s4.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

Seedlings being seedlings, they pitcher on every leaf. My big northiana does not pitcher at all, like you said only has the brown tip as though it's going to pitcher, but so far no action. I think got 10-15 leaves. I put this northiana in a bright corner of the balcony that does not get direct sun, is this why? What kind of lighting condition do you grow your northiana?

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« Reply #44 on Sept 6, 2007, 11:34am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif i put mine in direct morn` sun from 8-11 a.m......they grow in open spaces in the wild & get lotsa direct sun. or at least that`s what i assume from the photos i`ve seen of wild northiana.
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Quote:i put mine in direct morn` sun from 8-11 a.m......they grow in open spaces in the wild & get lotsa direct sun. or at least that`s what i assume from the photos i`ve seen of wild northiana.

Wokay, will find a good spot for my northiana with direct sun and swap place with my bical.
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« Reply #46 on Sept 6, 2007, 6:03pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Gentle reminder : best not to do it all of a sudden ya Isaac.....it might go into shock if exposed to strong sunlite after its previous location. « Last Edit: Sept 6, 2007, 7:21pm by tarence »Link to Post - Back to Top http://s4.images.proboards.com/ip.gif 211.25.130.42 tarence
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« Reply #47 on Sept 7, 2007, 10:41am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Cindy, i couldn`t notice that my nortiana puts out pitchers after only a few new leaves....mebbe it`ll take longer to observe but currently, most of the leaves seem to have pitchers.
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« Reply #48 on Sept 7, 2007, 12:51pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif one of mine too have pitchers on every leaf . others have pitchers but not on every leaf. I guess that was their natural response.

Isaac, pitchers of northiana formed very slowly. like dead brown tip but it's developing.


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« Reply #49 on Sept 7, 2007, 1:04pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif So each northiana has their own characteristics. http://s4.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

I thought they are like campanulata, which also grow in limestone areas. The growing tip looks black all the time so I have learnt to ignore it. http://s4.images.proboards.com/rolleyes.gif
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« Reply #50 on Sept 7, 2007, 1:28pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif anybody snipped it off thinking it was dead http://s4.images.proboards.com/rolleyes.gif
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« Reply #51 on Sept 7, 2007, 1:53pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif i think i may have.......oops. heheh. but they really did look dead to me...thin, light tendrils......next time i`ll leave them for a bit longer just to be sure .
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« Reply #52 on Sept 7, 2007, 1:54pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif
Quote:one of mine too have pitchers on every leaf . others have pitchers but not on every leaf. I guess that was their natural response.

Isaac, pitchers of northiana formed very slowly. like dead brown tip but it's developing.



Yeah, I will wait it to form the pitcher. I reckon if the pitcher forms it will be quite big because the plant is already an adult.

Meanwhile, I have the seedlings to keep me happy!
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« Reply #53 on Sept 7, 2007, 3:40pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif
Quote:i think i may have.......oops. heheh. but they really did look dead to me...thin, light tendrils......next time i`ll leave them for a bit longer just to be sure .

The first time before it pitcher for me i thought the forming will not succeed.It was brown all the way down the tendril and lie there for many weeks. It elongates very slowly forming a beautiful pitcher about 8" length,
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« Reply #54 on Sept 7, 2007, 4:11pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif 8"? http://s4.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

How big is the plant, Robert?
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« Reply #55 on Sept 7, 2007, 6:01pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif
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How big is the plant, Robert?

cindy,quite a normal size for northiana to attain. In the wild they are longer. That was my first plant and was about 20" tall. I will look for the file and repost http://s4.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif
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« Reply #56 on Sept 8, 2007, 5:49pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif oops,I can't locate the CD. Nevertheless cultivating at home in pots the pitchers will be smaller and shorter. As what i found out. For comparison sake here are 2 pics. Both are taken in the wild.

a 12" height ,1500ml water bottle besides an upper pitcher.

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« Reply #62 on Sept 9, 2007, 2:18pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif 2 months ago i planted my largest and some smaller one in my dad's garden. All on clay and they look good . No pitchers at the moment. Conds are natural lowland. They will get to smell clone D24 durians the first time once the fruiting season arrived http://s4.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
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« Reply #63 on Sept 9, 2007, 5:26pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif What? Your dad's place has got D24 durians? That's my favourite! Besides, XO. http://s4.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif
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« Reply #64 on Sept 9, 2007, 6:58pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif yap,that was the best clone.Many people bought and tasted only knowing the beautiful golden yellow colouration and flavour but without realising the clone.

However i planted all the neps., away from the durian trees.
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« Reply #65 on Sept 10, 2007, 11:11am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Cindy, i love durians too...can eat non-stop until i get fever or pass out from internal heat-wave. heheh.

Robert : i hope one fine day my northiana will grow to attain a `good` sized pitcher....8" also i`m happy oredi, no need the max.
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Robert : i hope one fine day my northiana will grow to attain a `good` sized pitcher....8" also i`m happy oredi, no need the max.

yeah, we are never satisfied. Once it reached 8"length we want our northie to reach ,say ,10" or longer http://s4.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
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« Reply #67 on Sept 11, 2007, 9:19am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif My nothie pitchers are only 1cm. LOL.

Planting on the ground? Rob did with his Rajah.
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« Reply #68 on Sept 11, 2007, 9:28am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif the longest one i have on the nep rite now is about 35mm.....but it`s pitchering quite crazily, 11 pitchers now ranging from super tiny to 35mm. well, i can wait for it to attain a good size later ......have no choice anyways, heheh.
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« Reply #69 on Sept 23, 2007, 6:57am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Without sabotoging this thread, what is D24 Durians? We have durian here in Hawai'i and I love them, although many people here hate them repulsively. We also have Chumpaduk here which are my all time favorite and will always buy them when in season. Someone once gave me five of them and I was in heaven for the next five days!

Oh well, back to nepenthes.

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« Reply #70 on Sept 23, 2007, 12:38pm »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Michael,

Do they grow durians in hawaii or are they all imported (from Thailand)?

D24 is one of the many clones developed to bring out the best in durians. It flesh is thick and rich, the seed , generally small and the taste fantastic. Of course you have to pay more. In a good harvest, you can get 5/6 small kampung (village) durians for RM10 ($3) and the bigger ones for 2 for RM10. But for D24 and the better clones you pay by the weight. For D24, you pay RM8-10 per kg. So a D24 durian could cost you RM15 to 20. But its well worth it.

But it is better not to consume too much durians these days. For they are heavily sprayed with pesticide. In the good old days you can tell how good the durian is by the grub/worms found inside the durians.

Durians used to seasonal. But they seems to be available almost year round. The difference between Malaysian and the Thai durians is the smell. Thai durians are less smelly and they are plucked from the trees, whilst the Malaysian ones are picked from the ground (or nets around the trees) after they fell. The Thai even have developed clones with hardly any smell for the export market.

Did you know you are not allow to bring durians into planes (not as offensive weapons), hotels and public buildings?

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« Reply #71 on Sept 24, 2007, 2:32am »http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/modify.gif http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/delete.gif Thanks for your explanation of this most heavenly fruits. I must be weird because I love them almost as much as I do mangoes and mangosteens. We were on some estate some time ago and a bunch of us were walking through the large garden and we all came across this strange smell. The girls ran away thinking that it was due to some stagnant water or someone dumped some old food trash in the brush. I already knew the smell and actually went searching through the brush. It was aparent that the former owners of the estate must have brought back durian seeds and planted them and now stood three huge trees and a few smaller ones. There were ripe fruit attached to the trunk and I plucked a couple of smaller ones and showed the group that it was this fruit that the smell was coming from. They all thought that I was crazy when I said I am going to eat this later. One guy betted me a hundred dollars to eat it in front of everybody. All I can say is that I was a hundred dollar richer that afternoon and feeling so good in my tummy and wallet.

Oh well sorry for this interruption, but I will research this durian type the next time I go to the open markets, or China Town.

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