Veitchii Bario (MT)
 

Hi
I've just acquired veitchii bario, MT version, from NewTrio. I think they have one more there. Just wondering on how I should treat it? What would be the best media for this guy? It will eventually go into my 4ft terrarium, I guess in a months time.

Anyways, here is the picture.
https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1263553630

Regards
cj

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Wow it loos beautiful.Mind telling me how much is it?

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Beautiful plant! I grow mine in a very lose mix and keep it a little on the dry side, never standing in water. You might want to keep it in a very humid place for a while until it establishes a decent root system. - Rich

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this fella can get huge, if you refer to my post in the wild.

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Hi Rich, Thanks for the info. Going to do that.

Hi Robert, just wanna ask. I know it grow huge but is it a fast or slow grower?

I am very tempted to just quickly setup the terrarium. And then put this directly into it. Saves the hassle. I think I am gonna do that these few days.

Regards
cj

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As far as I know, most N. veitchii can be consider as slow grower... even more so for the H/L variety :sweating:

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That's good, for my case in a terrarium.

YG seems to like potting up with pure LFS. Usually I repot this to a draining mix for my other plants. Maybe for this case, I'll just leave it as it is and plunk it straight into the terrarium. Kinda hard to repot as those LFS sticks/fused to the roots.

Regards
cj

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Hi,
I think you should repot that Veitchii with good drain media, they will doing well in your terrarium.

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Thanks for the advice. I guess it is a good one. Better do it now when it is still healthy. ;-) Do it later is gonna be a lot harder.

Off topic... I am wondering how YG does it. Their plants are real healthy, all LFS. How do they do control it and why do they only use sphagnum. Was discussing with Fauzi as well, he also says that sphagnum is one of the best media if we know how to control it. The question is, how to use sphagnum moss correctly.

Openning the topic for suggestions (on how/why YG uses LFS)...

Regards
cj

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Good point, I've also thought about this... This is my analysis... We all know LFS is not the cheapest material to use and I know YG use HQ New Zealand LFS (been there and seen it myself).

I think it's the ease of use (instead of mixing with other media), weight (very light, YG have a large numbers of hanginng pots) and availability (coco chips and coco peat not easily available in Malaysia). I think most people would agree LFS is by far the best media to be use, the reason ppl are looking for alternatives is mainly because of cost and it's environmental issues (harvesting of LFS).

Don't forget YG setup professional nuseries to grow plants and couple this with a natural intermediate climate and condition... you got a close to perfect environment to grow almost any nepenthes except for those ultra H/L neps.

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cj,

i've not been to YG. Have you notice how they water their plants?

In my opinion using sphagnum moss by allowing to dry inbetween watering, which mean watering once in every 3-4 days, but depening on local weather conds and adjust accordingly.

The problem, we tend to water our neps frequently which suffocate the roots. Keep it moist ( not wet) and a loose media.

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Robert,
I only know YG use over head sprinkler and also collect rain water to supplement the watering. No idea what's the watering frequency but I can tell you when you're inside the nursery, it's cool and surprisingly refresing like you're in open space on a mountain (without the wind of coz), not stuffy at all considering you're in an enclosed area.

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I know there is some automated watering system that only water when the pot is starter to dry. Pure sphagnum moss can cause rotting easy, so the secret can be how they watering their plants.

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as i have spoken to YG representative earlier, it is confirmed that they grow all their neps in pure sphagnum moss. they also added that, it depends on your growing environment, species and the natural setting of the plants localities however due to tc, clones etc etc, most of the neps L/L, Intermediate and H/L will adapt and do OK to your growing conditions.
as for the watering schedule, it depends on the daily weather and waters only when needed (this is based on their growing condition in CHs and of course they have trained personnel to handle and attending to the nursery whole day/ full shift and not like us, have to work in the office or go to school and left them unattended) sometimes they do not receive sunlight all day long thus watering should be reduced just enough to contain the moisture needed for the plants and humidity plays a MAJOR role in growing our Intermediate and H/L species (depends on the type/species, size and age of the plant) they do not use any supplemental lightings and most important not to water clog your pots!! *biggrin2*

p/s; this is based on teleconversation and not being recorded in any form of writing or recording therefore any inaccuracy of data or resulting death on your neps, is purely unintentional and this matter should be treated solely as additional reading materials only. :biggrin:

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Hi CJ,
A 4-ft tank seems big, but you will soon run out of space. Veitchii leaves are big. Each leaf can be more than 1 ft long.

Choong

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I am banging on the idea that Veitchii Bario is slower growing. But I guess sooner or later, I'll need to either take it out or upgrade to 6ft. :spinning:

I plan to confine the roots in pots and hide the pots though. Cutting/trimming would be hard right?

BTW. Thanks for the advice.

Regards
cj

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Nepnut, kinda interested in the overhead sprinkler you are refering to. Would it be like those lawn sprinkler or those misting type. Sprinkler would be too powerful right?

Just an idea, probably misting would be a good thing to have, it acts to do 2 things:-
1) Watering the plants but not too wet
2) Humidity increase to the environment.

If I ever get a chance to go to YG, I'll see this sprinker for sure. ;-)

Regards
cj