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edwardyeeks 28th October 2008 07:27 PM

Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Hi everyone, I was just wondering what is the differenc between akai ryu and royal red.....:smile:

Cheers

kentosaurs 29th October 2008 01:51 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Hi Edward

According to those which i have found from the internet D royal red first of all has elevated leaves which doesn't stay on the ground they are all erected.They also have Green margins and red inner surfaces on the trap.

Akai Ryu has much smaller and shorter leaves and the leaves don't stand instead it stays on the media.Akai ryu also has redder traps then D.Royal Red some are almost completly red while Royal red is probally maybe around 70-80% red something like that.

Ken

flytrapcare.com 29th October 2008 01:51 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
They're pretty hard to tell apart as far as I can tell. I wrote a summary of all of the registered cultivars here:
http://www.flytrapcare.com/venus-fly...iety-list.html

The 'Holland Red', 'Royal Red', 'Green Dragon' and 'Akai Ryu' are all very similar. Of the red registered cultivars, I grow Akai Ryu, Green Dragon and Red Piranha. I can't really tell the difference between Akai Ryu and Green Dragon.

arvin555 29th October 2008 07:50 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
I can't comment on the other variety/cultivars, but my Royal reds actually do exactly what Ken mentioned, they usually grow their leaves up high, and they are not fully red. I think that the term for the ground hogging leaves are rosettes? I hope someone corrects me there if it's wrong.

Loved the link flytrapcare!

TTFN
Arvin

edwardyeeks 29th October 2008 09:32 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
OOOhhh, thanks, I have been wondering this difference for ages, now I know.

Ken and arvin, thanks a lot, I really appreciate your help, now I can choose the VFT that I want!:biggrin::biggrin:

Flytrap.care, thanks a lot too for the help, especially that link. Very interesting flytraps, I have the savage garden book from peter d'amato. Its a good book. Again, thanks!!!!:1thumbup:

Cheers

arvin555 30th October 2008 12:07 AM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
So which one are you going to get? :)

I think that Akai Ryus are a bit more expensive aren't they?

I have a few Royals myself, but didn't get an Akai ryu coz of the cost.

TTFN
Arvin

edwardyeeks 30th October 2008 07:13 AM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Well, I don't know arvin, cuz I'm a little blear where to buy them, maybe fauzi sells some of these vfts.:2thumbup:

Cheers

Varhoon Vystra 27th December 2008 03:05 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Has he does sell that plant.

kentosaurs 27th December 2008 04:07 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Hi Varhoon

I don't really get what you mean but if you're asking if he sells that than yes he does.

Ken

edwardyeeks 27th December 2008 07:08 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Yes, Varhoon, Fauzi sells akai ryu, but I don't think he sells royal red. He also has sawtooth, though I think you have already.

Cheers

caseyhoo 27th December 2008 11:57 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 10606)
Yes, Varhoon, Fauzi sells akai ryu, but I don't think he sells royal red. He also has sawtooth, though I think you have already.

Cheers

Edward, as I know, Fauzi dont have sawtooth, but, shark teeth. Lets me call him tomorrow and confirm it.

My royal red VFT is still small, it is full red.

VFT will show you difference looks when they are in difference place. Like my experience, last time, I pass a really red VFT to Edwin (retired from CPs). In his place that receive a lots of sunlight as my place, but, the VFT turn green. So, how to identify it? Unless they are showing the unique looks, like sharkteeth, saw teeth, fused tooth...

Someone told me that, VFT will turn red if day temperature and night temperature difference by 6'c. Dont know how true it is.

TS 28th December 2008 02:15 AM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Fauzi sells shark teeth, not saw tooth. :wub:

I have a day and night temperature difference by 8°C to 9°C at home, but still some supposed-to-get-very-red or supposed-to-show-red-appearance VFTs (long red fingers, red band...) are still didn't show their full colour. I think they require a temperature difference of more then 10°C to show the lovely red hue like what they normally appear in the spring.

I found some red VFTs get very red when they are small (strange), the mother plant is not that red. I don't know how they will turn out when they reach their maturity. Still under observation. :unsure: Hope they maintain the colour. :laugh:

edwardyeeks 28th December 2008 09:28 AM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
I don't know whether it is called shark teeth or sawtooth......sorry. :tongue:

But he has quite a number of VFTs! My akai ryu is turning more like typical, now much more greener......

Cheers

plantlover 28th December 2008 04:52 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Mine too, Edward. The veins and inside the traps are red while the petioles are green.

kentosaurs 28th December 2008 06:49 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Hi Edward and Aaron

Tee hee.....Mine still red never changed much.....I mean got grow la but still as red as i bought it.My green VFT seems to be dying (dormancy) cause i put it in a minibog and i know the bog is pest free....And also i don't see any mealty bugs or aphids or anything under the plant..If there is my other VFT and sarr will be having it to but they seem fine.Anyways probally its dormancy....For no reasons its loosing almost all its leaves but the rhizome is still whitish.

Ken

edwardyeeks 28th December 2008 09:00 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Dormancy loh.....:laugh:

Cheers

kentosaurs 28th December 2008 09:46 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Thanks :D

Ken

caseyhoo 28th December 2008 11:43 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TS (Post 10634)
Fauzi sells shark teeth, not saw tooth. :wub:

I have a day and night temperature difference by 8°C to 9°C at home, but still some supposed-to-get-very-red or supposed-to-show-red-appearance VFTs (long red fingers, red band...) are still didn't show their full colour. I think they require a temperature difference of more then 10°C to show the lovely red hue like what they normally appear in the spring.

I found some red VFTs get very red when they are small (strange), the mother plant is not that red. I don't know how they will turn out when they reach their maturity. Still under observation. :unsure: Hope they maintain the colour. :laugh:

Beside what TS said, I found that red VFT will lost their red color if you plug it from media. And it take times or months to get back their color even you keep it in the same environment as previous. So, I think it is best try not to repot those VFT, unless really need to do so.

plantlover 29th December 2008 12:30 AM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
My green VFT is growing Yellowish green deformed traps that shut slowly while the older traps shut quickly. And the newer traps are getting smaller with shorter petiole? Pest or Dormancy??

Amelie.Poulain 29th December 2008 01:39 AM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
I agree with TS, while my bigger 'Akai Ryu' are not showing their true potential in being RED, the plantlet are truly red! I hope the color will remain through out.

edwardyeeks 29th December 2008 03:54 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Well, Chinese New Year is coming soon, so expect your akai ryu to go ultra blood red!!!! :tongue:

Aaron, that is happening to my VFT. I think it is lack of light, since when I asked Fauzi, he said that VFTs grow smaller traps and shut the traps slower in lesser light. If it is deformed, then I think it should be aphids. It happened to me too.

Cheers

plantlover 30th December 2008 11:53 PM

Re: Difference in the RED VFTs.....
 
Theres no sign of aphids. And its not lack of light. My rajah is getting sunburnt and the temperature had been near 40 for 3-5 days. I've 2 VFT in a pot and only 1 is shutting slowly and growing deformed traps while the other is just normal. All are growing autumn leaves. Well the deformed traps are thinner than usual.


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