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« Thread Started on 7 May, 2007, 23:08 »Ant plants is a group of plants which symbiosis with ants. The plants provive food or shelter to the ants. While the ants provide protection or nutrients to the plant.

The most famous ant plants are Myrmecodia and Hydnophytum from family Rubiaceae.
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The stem at the base of the plants enlarge become a tuber. There got a lot of chambers inside the tuber which allow the ants to live inside.

While ants nest inside the tuber, they will bring the food and debris into the tuber. What left over by the ant will decay and become the nutrients for the plants.

Besides Myrmecodia and Hydnophytum , there still have a lot of ant plants from different family, includes the N. bicalcarata from Nepenthaceae and some Tillandsia from Bromeliaceae.


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« Reply #1 on 7 May, 2007, 23:25 »Ant plants do not eat insects but they culture insects! http://s3.images.proboards.com/grin.gif Cool is it!
But none of my ant plants got ants live together. http://s3.images.proboards.com/sad.gif Still thinking how to attract the ants to nest inside the plants. Hmm.... http://s3.images.proboards.com/rolleyes.gif
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« Reply #2 on 7 May, 2007, 23:38 »Interesting plant lim. Saw it once in Cameron Highlands. Was very curious about it but did not buy it as I did not know much about it and did not know how to care for it. The tag said Ant Plant and only gave a short decription.

Are they easy to care for? Maybe you should loan your ant plant to bifurcatum and see if it will attract the whole colony of ants from the staghorn fern to your ant plant. The one that bifurcatum parents are complaining about having alot of ants. http://s3.images.proboards.com/smiley.gif Link to Post - Back to Top http://s3.images.proboards.com/ip.gif LoggedMy Wantlistzakhren
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« Reply #3 on 7 May, 2007, 23:38 »Put some sugar or something on the plant? Haha. Ants can only move in if a queen comes or the whole colony moves. I'm not sure when ant colonies produce queens... Link to Post - Back to Top http://s3.images.proboards.com/ip.gif Loggedpiscesilim
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« Reply #4 on 7 May, 2007, 23:49 »I am still learning in ant plants culture. So far, they are easy to keep like cps.

Yes.Zakhren. Thinking to put some sugar or honey. But as what you said, ants only move when queen move. May be have to adopt the queen to live inside.

Really hope one day my ant plants will have some colonies of ants which same as Bifurcatum's staghorn fern. ha ha... really hope...
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« Reply #5 on 10 May, 2007, 22:20 »Another favorite ant plants of mine. Tillandsia caput-medusae. It's also a kind of air plants.

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« Reply #6 on 10 May, 2007, 22:42 »
Quote: Another favorite ant plants of mine. Tillandsia caput-medusae. It's also a kind of air plants.

Oh, T. caput madusa is an ant plant? Did not know that. Nice specimen you have there. Mine is smaller than yours. Link to Post - Back to Top http://s3.images.proboards.com/ip.gif LoggedMy Wantlistatmccmn
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« Reply #7 on 11 May, 2007, 15:17 »Piscesilim, T. caput medusae only harbour ants as the find shelter at the leaf sheath of caput medusae or other bulbose base Tillies. The doesn't benefit much from the ants except for protection from poachers!

The ant plants like hydnophytums or mymercodias or others like lecanpteris and dischidia have hollow tubers or rather chambers specially for ants. In return, the ants will secrete formic acid which benefit the ants. A symbiosys between the ants and the plants Link to Post - Back to Top http://s3.images.proboards.com/ip.gif Loggedpiscesilim
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« Reply #8 on 22 May, 2007, 23:54 »Another ant plants of mine----Ants fern(Lecanopteris sinuosa)

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« Reply #9 on 23 May, 2007, 16:53 »Nice plant and thanks for the infos. May I know how old is your plant?
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« Reply #10 on 23 May, 2007, 17:37 »I am not sure. I keep this fern more than 6 months already. Link to Post - Back to Top http://s3.images.proboards.com/ip.gif LoggedLimatmccmn
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« Reply #11 on 23 May, 2007, 22:10 »Interesting plant! cool. http://s3.images.proboards.com/cool.gif Link to Post - Back to Top http://s3.images.proboards.com/ip.gif Loggedameliepoulain
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« Reply #13 on 24 May, 2007, 23:19 »Too high up......Over 100 feet. Forget it.
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« Reply #14 on 24 May, 2007, 23:55 »Hmm... Did you mean Hydnophytum sp. in Sungai Ara? « Last Edit: 24 May, 2007, 23:55 by piscesilim »Link to Post - Back to Top http://s3.images.proboards.com/ip.gif LoggedLimameliepoulain
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« Reply #15 on 24 May, 2007, 23:55 »
Quote: Too high up......Over 100 feet. Forget it.
Furthermore it's full of ants

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« Reply #16 on 25 May, 2007, 8:50 »Hehehe.......not only you are afraid of that! Link to Post - Back to Top http://s3.images.proboards.com/ip.gif Loggedatmccmn
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« Reply #17 on 25 May, 2007, 8:55 »
Quote: Hmm... Did you mean Hydnophytum sp. in Sungai Ara?


Yep......abundantly avaliable......All are huge old specimen plant.
That makes Michael Ooi's plant looks like seedlings!
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« Reply #18 on 25 May, 2007, 14:16 »
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Quote: Hmm... Did you mean Hydnophytum sp. in Sungai Ara?


Yep......abundantly avaliable......All are huge old specimen plant.
That makes Michael Ooi's plant looks like seedlings!
But like ameliepoulain said......it's not the ants that we are afraid of.... http://s3.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/lipsrsealed.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/undecided.gif

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« Reply #19 on 25 May, 2007, 14:26 »So....is it on! Wanna go........ http://s3.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif http://s3.images.proboards.com/cool.gif piscesilim
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« Reply #20 on 25 May, 2007, 15:46 »
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Quote: Hmm... Did you mean Hydnophytum sp. in Sungai Ara?


Yep......abundantly avaliable......All are huge old specimen plant.
That makes Michael Ooi's plant looks like seedlings!
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Ohh...... You know Michael Ooi...... Actually the first 2 pics were taken from his farm. I been that Sungai Ara water falls before. But didn't notice there got Hydnophytum. May be too high up the tree and I didn't see it. Hmm.... I think I have to go back to that place again to search for this ant plants. Link to Post - Back to Top http://s4.images.proboards.com/ip.gif LoggedLimatmccmn
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« Reply #21 on 25 May, 2007, 17:18 »Yep..... anybody that are into orchid do know him. By the surface only.....he doesn't know me and I preffer to keep it that way.

Now talking about hydnophytum......It is a sight to behold if you really see the plant insitu. Bring along your camera. That will be helpful. Cheers

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Ok.... I got a Q... I bought 1 big pot of that pouchie-pouchie climbing vine ant plant....

Cheap... RM6, but no pouch.

How do I pouchiefy the plant ah? Thanks... :D

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Lisham,any photo of the plant?

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I bought one too!! Just RM 15+ with pouch!!

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Hi lisham and plantlover,

Are you guys refering to Dischidia Pectinoides?
http://www.rareflora.com/dischidiapec.htm

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Correct!!!

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I just got a Dischidia Pectinoides yesterday for RM8. It comes in a hanging shell (apparently imported from Thailand).

I was told by the seller that if the leaves look a bit redish and hardly any pouches , it means it is low on nutriens. Just fertilize it with orgainic fertilizer (2 to 3 balls will do). Not to use the chemical fertilizer (those pink colored balls). I have never tried that yet and don't know whether it is good or bad advise.

Anyway, I am also just starting to learn how to take care of this cute looking plant. The pouches looks like money bags :smile:.

Oh. I hope my Ant Plant will gather big ants for me to feed my hungry VFT.

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I have 4 Dischidia Pectinoides in a shell from Thailand too and its green(one of them is yellowish green) and its ultra'easy to look after. Step by step on how to grow them

step 1
Water and place in sunny location

Step 2
Leave alone

Step 3
Leave alone

Step 4
Leave alone

Step 5
See if it lives.