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Sockhom 21st March 2009 06:12 AM

Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Well, another new species.
But this one is a bit special to me:

http://www.lhnn.proboards107.com/ind...ay&thread=2884


Cheers,

François.

rsivertsen 21st March 2009 09:07 AM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Perhaps a N. meyii is not too far off. ;) - Rich

Aliamyz 21st March 2009 11:37 AM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Congrates François for describing another new sp.

Where's the pics btw?

kentosaurs 21st March 2009 12:59 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
OOOOOOOOOO Grats!!!!! Its like a few months no new species is describe then all of a sudden so many species are coming up!!!..Very good job

Ken

plantlover 21st March 2009 02:05 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Yay!! Another new nep. Good job.

Sockhom 21st March 2009 07:05 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Hello,

Thanks for the kind words.
Basically, you already know the species. It's the one I found in Cambodia and the one I entered in cultivation under the name "N. sp.
Cambodia" then "N. bokor". But now it's formerly described and, thus, its got a name: N. bokorensis.

Here are some pictures:
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/2180/s6001578ex4.jpg[/url]

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5403/s6001649qc2.jpg[/url]

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9435/s6001232lf4.jpg[/url]

Cheers,

François.

Aliamyz 21st March 2009 09:09 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Wow that's one nice plant there.I would like to get one if they become available.
The peristome of the lower pitcher is so broad!

Good job François!

NepNut 21st March 2009 09:40 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Congrats François. Hopefully it'll be available commercially soon.... thanks for introducing another nep species.

Sockhom 21st March 2009 09:50 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Introducing the plant in culture and describing the plant are two very different things. I'm glad I've done both. ;-)

I've sent some seeds to Exotica plants so, the plants should be availaible in your part of the world. I hope so.


Speak soon,

François.

Aliamyz 21st March 2009 09:54 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Are there any known natural hybrid with this guy?

kentosaurs 21st March 2009 10:03 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
GAHHHH THOSE FAT LIPS!!!!!.....I would kill to get a plant like that (joking) Its a lowland species right? Looks a lot like those thorelii or mirabilis from thailand u know those neps there all have that look..

Ken

Aliamyz 21st March 2009 11:15 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Actually this sp. resembles closely to Tiger from Thailand.

NepNut 22nd March 2009 12:07 AM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Ken,
If you look closely on one of the pics, you'll see LSM on the background, that should give you an idea....

kentosaurs 22nd March 2009 05:19 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Awww man....... I actually saw that but "pretending" not to see that to bluff myself "its a lowland species,Its a lowland species" lol

Ken

Sockhom 22nd March 2009 06:59 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kentosaurs (Post 14496)
Awww man....... I actually saw that but "pretending" not to see that to bluff myself "its a lowland species,Its a lowland species" lol

Ken

Hi Ken

Actually, N. bokorensis grows between 800 and 1100 masl and it grows VERY well in lowland conditions!
My seedgrown (18 months old) are 35/40 cm large now.


Cheers,

François.

plantlover 22nd March 2009 08:05 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Yay!! Grows well in lowland. When its available and cheap I'll get one.(Hope its not like hamata RM500)

Aliamyz 22nd March 2009 08:47 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Well that's a good news for us!;)

kentosaurs 22nd March 2009 08:54 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Sweet!!!....Goal for the lowland species...Its always the highland species being discovered...Well that makes sense since 70% of neps are from the highland areas..You send some seeds to EP right? Hope they'll mass produce them ASAP :)

Ken

Aliamyz 23rd March 2009 07:58 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Hope to see real fascinating hybrids they create using N.Bokoriensis.

kentosaurs 23rd March 2009 11:29 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Hi Ali

I heard that some nurseries which use "thorelii" in they're cross is not the reali thorelii in fact people might have mistaken it for different plant maybe even this plant i saw all this from this thread
http://pitcherplants.proboards34.com...ad=7322&page=1

Anyways i would prefer a pure species then a hybrid of this guy i guess...Not that sure anyways cos this plant looks fantastic just on its own..(Gardenier its so good that it can be eaten on its own :) lol)

Ken

eboat 25th March 2009 02:41 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Hi all,
How do you ID bokorensis from kongadana and thorelii???
Do you have a keys of this species?

Thanks

Sockhom 25th March 2009 05:30 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
Hi eboat,

If you give me your mail, I can send you the pdf of the whole description.

I didn't treat N. kongkandana in my work because it is not described yet but I have compared N. bokorensis with N. kampotiana, N. smilesii and N. thorelii.

I remind everyone that the real thorelii has not been officially re-discovered (since 1909!) and it is very unlikely that is in cultivation.
All the so-called "thorelii" are either N. smilesii, N. bokorensis, N. kampotiana or undescribed taxa such as N. kongkandana, the "tigers" or, worse case, hybrids between all those related species!


Here is an extract of the description of N. bokorensis:

Sockhom 25th March 2009 05:31 PM

Re: Nepenthes bokorensis
 
2. Putative relatives. Nepenthes bokorensis is closely related to N. kampotiana, N. smilesii and N. thorelii, but differs from all of these species in that the leaf is much broader and also more oblong in shape. The occasional production of 2-flowered partial peduncles is also unusual in this group of species. It may also be distinguished from N. kampotiana as the foliage of that species is typically glabrous, whereas in N. bokorensis most parts of mature plants are usually lined with short hairs. Nepenthes bokorensis may be distinguished from N. smilesii by its pitcher morphology; the pitchers of N. smilesii are narrow, with a thin peristome, less colouration and shorter tendril than those of N. bokorensis, which are broad and have a characteristically robust peristome. Nepenthes bokorensis differs from N. thorelii by the attachment of the leaf to the stem; in N. bokorensis, the lamina is sessile to sub–petiolate and clasps the stem, only ever becoming slightly decurrent, whereas in N. thorelii the lamina is nearly completely amplexicaul and strongly decurrent. N. bokorensis may also be distinguished from N. thorelii by its pitcher morphology: the lower pitchers of N. thorelii are ovate whereas those of N. bokorensis are ovate in the lower third and cylindrical in the above. Nepenthes bokorensis is unlikely to be confused with these three species in the wild and it is not known to occur sympatrically with any of them. Therefore, no natural hybrids including N. bokorensis as a parent species are known.




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