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LJ_Tan 22nd May 2010 01:33 PM

LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
My 1st Nepenthes was Nepenthes ampullaria on May 2009 but I stop it after the 1st Nepenthes because of to some reason.

After I jointed this forum, I started again for Nepenthes because of N. viking:laugh:

I learn a lot after visit to NepNut house and I will modify my garden for Nepenthes :shy:

I hope can learn more for Nepenthes.

LJ_Tan 22nd May 2010 01:42 PM

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4 Attachment(s)
N. mirabilis var. globosa (N. viking) :

It's was "Green" when 09.05
https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1274503091

But now it was "Red" *biggrin2*
https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1274503091

It was "Green" on 09.05
https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1274503091

I hope it can be more 'Red' *biggrin2*
https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1274503091

LJ_Tan 22nd May 2010 01:45 PM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
3 Attachment(s)
My 1st Nepenthes : N. ampullaria

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1274503451

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1274503451

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1274503451

LJ_Tan 22nd May 2010 01:48 PM

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N. ampullaria - this is a gift from my friend and it was different with my 1st N. ampullaria

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1274503611

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1274503611

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1274503611

LJ_Tan 22nd May 2010 01:52 PM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
2 Attachment(s)
N. mirabilis - this is from my friend also but why have 2 different color :shy:

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1274503850

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1274503850

caseyhoo 22nd May 2010 05:00 PM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
wauh!!! a lots of viking!!!!

For N. mirabilis var globosa, you need to hide those pitcher from sunlight in order to get reddish color. It is difference from others nepenthes...

NepNut 22nd May 2010 05:46 PM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
Hi LJ,
Nice N. mirabilis var globosa from Boon. Most N. mirabilis and it's variant's pitcher will get bleach if exposed to strong sunlight. If you want to maintain the reddish pitcher, hide the pitchers, away from sunlight.

However, pls don't misunderstand that the plants will also need to be shaded, actually most N. mirabilis and it's variants grow best in full direct sun when it's mature. Please remember to do this step by step, if not you might hurt the plants when you suddenly move them to full direct sunlight.

marvin1997 22nd May 2010 06:01 PM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
They do? OMG I wanna put my N.Vik.... N.mirabilis var globosa in the shade xD

kevyn chan 22nd May 2010 06:13 PM

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wow! :2thumbup: so many N. mirabilis var globosa (tongue twister) from Boon.......believe me, they can go 'redder'! i can't take any pics now.....my camera sulking on me after left it in an acond room.....bad moisture from condensation, sigh.....

caseyhoo 23rd May 2010 02:22 AM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NepNut (Post 29355)
Hi LJ,
Nice N. mirabilis var globosa from Boon. Most N. mirabilis and it's variant's pitcher will get bleach if exposed to strong sunlight. If you want to maintain the reddish pitcher, hide the pitchers, away from sunlight.

However, pls don't misunderstand that the plants will also need to be shaded, actually most N. mirabilis and it's variants grow best in full direct sun when it's mature. Please remember to do this step by step, if not you might hurt the plants when you suddenly move them to full direct sunlight.

eeemmm... any one know what others nepenthes plant that require their pitcher hide from sunlight in order to get their potential color? Beside N. mirabilis var globosa.

As I know from Robert, some of ampullaria and some mirabilis need so... Now, come to question, which amp and mirabilis need so?how we know that? :crying:

Tan, sorry for out of topic...

marcellocatalano 23rd May 2010 02:36 AM

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thank you guys for supporting the knowledge and use the whole name, but you don't need to do that at all costs, risking to fall asleep while you write it :)! You can just call it var. globosa, or even globosa, like you do with N. mirabilis var. echinostoma. Just keep in mind that it's a variety and that now it has an official name :)

Boris 23rd May 2010 07:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by caseyhoo (Post 29379)
eeemmm... any one know what others nepenthes plant that require their pitcher hide from sunlight in order to get their potential color? Beside N. mirabilis var globosa.

N. argentii and N. sibuyanensis are putting their pitchers in the soil. They are living in a quite stormy habitate. The theory is that they do so to fix the plant better to the bottom. That hasn't to do with the colour but who knows.

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 10:16 AM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by caseyhoo (Post 29350)
wauh!!! a lots of viking!!!!

For N. mirabilis var globosa, you need to hide those pitcher from sunlight in order to get reddish color. It is difference from others nepenthes...

Dear Caseyhoo,

I'm not fully understand and get the meaning for "hide those pitcher from sunlight in order to get reddish color." :shy:

Currently I'm putting them at my balcony East side and it about 4 - 5 hours morning full sunlight. Do it mean that if I hide the pitcher, the color will "Reddish"? If I did not hide the pitcher, the color will "Red"?

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 10:25 AM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NepNut (Post 29355)
Hi LJ,
Nice N. mirabilis var globosa from Boon. Most N. mirabilis and it's variant's pitcher will get bleach if exposed to strong sunlight. If you want to maintain the reddish pitcher, hide the pitchers, away from sunlight.

However, pls don't misunderstand that the plants will also need to be shaded, actually most N. mirabilis and it's variants grow best in full direct sun when it's mature. Please remember to do this step by step, if not you might hurt the plants when you suddenly move them to full direct sunlight.

Dear NepNut,

Do it mean that the pitcher will change to 'red' if getting full sunlight?

Due to some reason, I ask my friend to pick up N. mirabilis var globosa from Boon on Apr and I get it on May. I'm direct putting them 4 - 5 hours morning sunlight and after about 4 days, the color of the leaf was started changed including the pitcher. Look like I'm do some mistake on it.:crying:

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 10:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marvin1997 (Post 29358)
They do? OMG I wanna put my N.Vik.... N.mirabilis var globosa in the shade xD

Now, I do not sure to put them at shade place or just maint it ?:crying:

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevyn chan (Post 29360)
wow! :2thumbup: so many N. mirabilis var globosa (tongue twister) from Boon.......believe me, they can go 'redder'! i can't take any pics now.....my camera sulking on me after left it in an acond room.....bad moisture from condensation, sigh.....

You may send it to repair, hope you can share it ASAP..

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 10:36 AM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by caseyhoo (Post 29379)
eeemmm... any one know what others nepenthes plant that require their pitcher hide from sunlight in order to get their potential color? Beside N. mirabilis var globosa.

As I know from Robert, some of ampullaria and some mirabilis need so... Now, come to question, which amp and mirabilis need so?how we know that? :crying:

Tan, sorry for out of topic...


Dear Caseyhoo,

No problem. If you have more question to ask, pls ask it. I also can learn on it:shy:

I'm having the problem like why same plant put on same place but 1 side pitchers was "hide" the color will different with other.

I'm confuse for Nepenthes :confused:

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 10:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marcellocatalano (Post 29381)
thank you guys for supporting the knowledge and use the whole name, but you don't need to do that at all costs, risking to fall asleep while you write it :)! You can just call it var. globosa, or even globosa, like you do with N. mirabilis var. echinostoma. Just keep in mind that it's a variety and that now it has an official name :)

Dear Marc,

Better we use official name :smile:

I started learning Nepenthes and still have a lot of "???" and confuse item may needs your help on it.:shy:

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 10:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris (Post 29384)
N. argentii and N. sibuyanensis are putting their pitchers in the soil. They are living in a quite stormy habitate. The theory is that they do so to fix the plant better to the bottom. That hasn't to do with the colour but who knows.

Dear Boris,

How about N.ampullaria?

NepNut 23rd May 2010 11:00 AM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
LJ,
When the whole plant of N. mirabilis var. globosa recieved strong light, the leaves and stems will turned to reddish coloration, that's because of formation of carotenoid (reddish pigments) by the plant to protect against strong light.

When the plant recieved strong sunlight, the developing pitchers will turned to red color. However, if after the pitcher open and stay exposed to sunlight, the pitcher will lose it's redness after it's aged (usually after 2-3 weeks), meaning the pitcher will become greenish and pale in color. This is what we refer as "bleaching" effect.

To show you what I mean....

N. mirabilis var globosa - 1 : Pitcher developed in a layer of LSM. The top part of the pitcher exposed to sunlight.
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3665/viking1.jpg

N. mirabilis var globosa - 2 (same pitcher): This is how the whole pitcher looks like. You'll see a clear distinction of coloration where the part of the pitcher that wasn't exposed to sunlight. The whitish part won't regain the redness once it's bleached even you hide it away from sunlight by now.
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6369/viking2.jpg

N. mirabilis var globosa - 3 : This is how the pitcher will look like when it's developed and kept away from sunlight.
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9060/viking3.jpg


Please know that in nature, most N. mirabilis and it's variant grow under full direct sunlight. Hope this help. :smile:

LJ_Tan 23rd May 2010 11:37 AM

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Dear NepNut,

Thank for your explain.

I will do some experiment on it:shy:.

'LSM' is ?


Thank you

funkychips 23rd May 2010 12:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NepNut (Post 29396)
LJ,
When the whole plant of N. mirabilis var. globosa recieved strong light, the leaves and stems will turned to reddish coloration, that's because of formation of carotenoid (reddish pigments) by the plant to protect against strong light.

When the plant recieved strong sunlight, the developing pitchers will turned to red color. However, if after the pitcher open and stay exposed to sunlight, the pitcher will lose it's redness after it's aged (usually after 2-3 weeks), meaning the pitcher will become greenish and pale in color. This is what we refer as "bleaching" effect.

To show you what I mean....

N. mirabilis var globosa - 1 : Pitcher developed in a layer of LSM. The top part of the pitcher exposed to sunlight.
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3665/viking1.jpg

N. mirabilis var globosa - 2 (same pitcher): This is how the whole pitcher looks like. You'll see a clear distinction of coloration where the part of the pitcher that wasn't exposed to sunlight. The whitish part won't regain the redness once it's bleached even you hide it away from sunlight by now.
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6369/viking2.jpg

N. mirabilis var globosa - 3 : This is how the pitcher will look like when it's developed and kept away from sunlight.
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9060/viking3.jpg


Please know that in nature, most N. mirabilis and it's variant grow under full direct sunlight. Hope this help. :smile:

That's really interesting Nepnut!! I'm going to start hiding my pitchers away in shade from now on :P

Boris 23rd May 2010 04:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LJ_Tan (Post 29394)
How about N.ampullaria?

The prey of ampullaria is often leaf litter. Maybe it puts the pitchers in the soil to catch/collect as most as possible of it.

cbkhoon 23rd May 2010 05:01 PM

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Is N. mirabilis var. globosa also mean N. Viking ? I confuse also:confused:

Boris 23rd May 2010 06:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkhoon (Post 29411)
Is N. mirabilis var. globosa also mean N. Viking ? I confuse also:confused:

Yes ... N. mirabilis var. globosa is now their official name after being described by the scientists. N. viking was sort of nickname before official description.

cbkhoon 24th May 2010 02:09 PM

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ok.. got it.. TQ*biggrin2*

NepNut 24th May 2010 03:36 PM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
FYI, I also found out N. northiana pitchers behave the same way as globosa. If the developing pitchers are sheltered from light, the pitcher will become a nice reddish coloration as well.

kevyn chan 24th May 2010 05:47 PM

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oohhh....time for some fun experiment!!! *biggrin2*

LJ_Tan 24th May 2010 10:50 PM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by funkychips (Post 29402)
That's really interesting Nepnut!! I'm going to start hiding my pitchers away in shade from now on :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by NepNut (Post 29436)
FYI, I also found out N. northiana pitchers behave the same way as globosa. If the developing pitchers are sheltered from light, the pitcher will become a nice reddish coloration as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevyn chan (Post 29446)
oohhh....time for some fun experiment!!! *biggrin2*

Let us have the fun on it*biggrin2*

LJ_Tan 24th May 2010 10:53 PM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkhoon (Post 29411)
Is N. mirabilis var. globosa also mean N. Viking ? I confuse also:confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris (Post 29413)
Yes ... N. mirabilis var. globosa is now their official name after being described by the scientists. N. viking was sort of nickname before official description.


Dear cbkhoon,

Pls refer to below link for more detail :
https://forum.petpitcher.net/showthread.php?t=3851

I also confuse on it but after read it, you will understand.

LJ_Tan 24th May 2010 10:54 PM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris (Post 29410)
The prey of ampullaria is often leaf litter. Maybe it puts the pitchers in the soil to catch/collect as most as possible of it.


Noted

cbkhoon 30th May 2010 05:14 PM

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what i have done for the vikings are, i put all the pots close to each other in a tray, and i let the pitchers sit in the gaps so that very minimum light will shine at the pitchers.

I have tried another method b4 and it works also, expose the whole plant to make the leaves red, by having the pitcher sitting in the pots, covered by its leaves, then i wil move them to shaded place. Then you wil get red leave + red pitcher.

plantlover 30th May 2010 07:07 PM

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Nice neps!

LJ_Tan 31st May 2010 09:38 AM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkhoon (Post 29588)
what i have done for the vikings are, i put all the pots close to each other in a tray, and i let the pitchers sit in the gaps so that very minimum light will shine at the pitchers.

I have tried another method b4 and it works also, expose the whole plant to make the leaves red, by having the pitcher sitting in the pots, covered by its leaves, then i wil move them to shaded place. Then you wil get red leave + red pitcher.

Thank for sharing.
I'm doing same 'testing' now*biggrin2*


Quote:

Originally Posted by plantlover (Post 29590)
Nice neps!

Thank

LJ_Tan 6th June 2010 04:31 PM

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2 Attachment(s)
Below is my testing result for N. mirabilis var. globosa*biggrin2*

on 31.05.2010
https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1275809421

On 06.06.2010 - Full Red
https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1275809421

LJ_Tan 9th June 2010 12:45 AM

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3 Attachment(s)
N. mirabilis var. globosa - plant 1

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1276011842

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1276011842

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1276011842

LJ_Tan 9th June 2010 12:48 AM

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3 Attachment(s)
N. mirabilis var. globosa - plant 2

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1276012017

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1276012017

https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1276012017

kevyn chan 9th June 2010 11:19 AM

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wow, look like you have done a good job to show the true color of the pitchers!! plants size increased too.... well done....guess those who missed this batch is biting fingers...hahahaha....*biggrin2**biggrin2**biggrin 2*

LJ_Tan 11th June 2010 01:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kevyn chan (Post 29772)
wow, look like you have done a good job to show the true color of the pitchers!! plants size increased too.... well done....guess those who missed this batch is biting fingers...hahahaha....*biggrin2**biggrin2**biggrin 2*


Hihi...
I still learning on this area, Nepenthes still very new for me.
You also purchase form CBKhoon?*biggrin2*

LJ_Tan 11th June 2010 01:10 AM

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2 Attachment(s)
Plant 1
https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1276186027

Plant 2



https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1276186027


As now, both plant was have different nep:shy::shy::shy:
Now is getting more "Red", I like it ....

I will put other nep when it was in "Red"....
I still waiting for other on the new nep :tongue:

kevyn chan 11th June 2010 10:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LJ_Tan (Post 29791)
Plant 1
https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1276186027

Plant 2



https://forum.petpitcher.net/attachme...1&d=1276186027


As now, both plant was have different nep:shy::shy::shy:
Now is getting more "Red", I like it ....

I will put other nep when it was in "Red"....
I still waiting for other on the new nep :tongue:

yes, i purchased 2 plants 'same batch' from cbkhoon.

As now, both plant was have different nep:shy::shy::shy:
Now is getting more "Red", I like it ....

if i understand correctly, you meant 'both plants has different form of pitchers'
And now its getting intense red coloration on the pitchers, and you like it....

I will put other nep when it was in "Red"....
I still waiting for other on the new nep :tongue:

you will post other pitcher's pictures when it turns red,
and expecting more pitchers forming from the plants..

LJ_Tan 11th June 2010 02:29 PM

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yes, i purchased 2 plants 'same batch' from cbkhoon.
Can we have a look on your plant?

As now, both plant was have different nep:shy::shy::shy:
Now is getting more "Red", I like it ....

if i understand correctly, you meant 'both plants has different form of pitchers'
And now its getting intense red coloration on the pitchers, and you like it....
Yes

I will put other nep when it was in "Red"....
I still waiting for other on the new nep :tongue:

you will post other pitcher's pictures when it turns red,
and expecting more pitchers forming from the plants..
Yes

Sorry for my broken english.:shy:

kit1212 11th June 2010 02:44 PM

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very nice viking there.I like the plant 2!!

kevyn chan 11th June 2010 03:17 PM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
yes, i purchased 2 plants 'same batch' from cbkhoon.
Can we have a look on your plant?

sure, let me go back and snap some photos......

As now, both plant was have different nep:shy::shy::shy:
Now is getting more "Red", I like it ....

if i understand correctly, you meant 'both plants has different form of pitchers'
And now its getting intense red coloration on the pitchers, and you like it....
Yes

I will put other nep when it was in "Red"....
I still waiting for other on the new nep :tongue:

you will post other pitcher's pictures when it turns red,
and expecting more pitchers forming from the plants..
Yes

Sorry for my broken english.

its ok, as long as it sounds...........

:shy:

cbkhoon 11th June 2010 05:05 PM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
walaueh... dun use too many colours la.. confuse to read..:spinning: pening kepala

kevyn chan 11th June 2010 05:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cbkhoon (Post 29800)
walaueh... dun use too many colours la.. confuse to read..:spinning: pening kepala

no la...its actually Q&A wt Tan.....

allenphoon 11th June 2010 05:40 PM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
me also do not understand, so just directly skip it:tongue:

kevyn chan 11th June 2010 05:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by allenphoon (Post 29802)
me also do not understand, so just directly skip it:tongue:

as i've said earlier......its just some Q&A wt Tan.....

kit1212 11th June 2010 10:24 PM

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I regretted not buying vikings from cbkhoon.They look so nice in red.how lovely..

cbkhoon 11th June 2010 10:28 PM

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ask see whoever wan to sell u... but beware of the price...:1thumbup:

LJ_Tan 12th June 2010 11:10 AM

Re: LJ_Tan - Nepenthes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kit1212 (Post 29798)
very nice viking there.I like the plant 2!!

Same to me.


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