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SirKristoff 20th June 2010 06:50 AM

A true gem...
 
Just arrived today, and i cant really be happier with it...
a rooted cutting of a female N. spectabilis from Gunung Sinabung
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010052-1.jpg
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010059-2.jpg
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010058-1.jpg
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010057-1.jpg
and now for her future husband, which we all know ;D
my N. spectabilis North Sumatra
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010053-1.jpg
who is working on an upper pitcher on the main vine again finally :) hopefully no little lid syndrome this go-around
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010054-2.jpg

edwardyeeks 20th June 2010 09:41 AM

Re: A true gem...
 
Truely a gem, sirkristoff! Good that you have both female and male, you could propogate them and sell the seedlings, *biggrin2*. From whom did you get the female cutting?

SirKristoff 20th June 2010 10:54 AM

Re: A true gem...
 
thanks :)
i got this from a guy in hawaii named Noa

Robert 20th June 2010 01:48 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
awesome spectabilis . Its colors often show up if crossed with others.

SirKristoff 20th June 2010 02:24 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
yeah, it sure does Robert, ive seen some amazing hybrids made with this plant, though my ultimate goal is to make species seeds...

plantlover 20th June 2010 05:15 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
Its beautiful! Love the vivid colours!

sooxiwei 20th June 2010 06:27 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
I like the color and patches pattern of the nep, wonder if it can grow well in low land condition:smile:

amazing nep you got:1thumbup:

marvin1997 20th June 2010 06:49 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
Spectacular like the name!! Little lid syndrome is cute sometimes *biggrin2*

SirKristoff 20th June 2010 08:01 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
was out moving stuff around in the greenhouse yesterday and caught this hiding behind the pot, a new pitcher opened up on my male
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010057-2.jpg
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010059-3.jpg
and while i had the male out to get a pic of the new pitcher, i thought i would get the partners together...
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010061-1.jpg
another of one of the females pitchers...
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010063-1.jpg

marvin1997 20th June 2010 10:39 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
Aren't the leaves supposed to be green?

SirKristoff 21st June 2010 06:09 AM

Re: A true gem...
 
not necessarily, spectabilis leaves turn deep red in good lighting :)

kevyn chan 21st June 2010 11:16 AM

Re: A true gem...
 
wow, very nice spectabilis you have there!:wub:

mine after a sticky start on lowland condition......notice the wobbly outline of the pitcher, however i am proud to have these little 'true gem' so cway, get one for yourself.....
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/x...issinabung.jpg

sooxiwei 21st June 2010 11:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kevyn chan (Post 30130)
wow, very nice spectabilis you have there!:wub:

mine after a sticky start on lowland condition......notice the wobbly outline of the pitcher, however i am proud to have these little 'true gem' so cway, get one for yourself.....
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/x...issinabung.jpg


Wow, does this cause you an arm or leg? or both arms and legs*biggrin2*

btw, where do you get them?

SirKristoff 21st June 2010 12:03 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
thought i would share some pics of my young spectabilis pangulobau as well, the mature representations of this form show a much more tubby pitcher, and not near as extreme peristome...but we will see
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010097-1.jpg
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/P1010095.jpg
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/P1010094.jpg

NepNut 21st June 2010 12:32 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
Very nice spec there SK... Hope you'll be able to do a species breesding in the near future :1thumbup:

Kevyn,
Good job :1thumbup: .I gave up on growing spectabilis in LL condition after they died eventually.... however those spectabilis hybrids is doing well for me*biggrin2*

SirKristoff 21st June 2010 02:25 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
NepNut - spect hybrids are great, i only grow two currently though, spectabilis x aristolochioides and spectabilis x talangensis...

i really do hope to do some species breeding between my two mature plants, and hopefully the pangulobau plant will catch up so i can use him/her for more genetic variation and interesting species forms in the future :)

kevyn chan 21st June 2010 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sooxiwei (Post 30131)
Wow, does this cause you an arm or leg? or both arms and legs*biggrin2*

btw, where do you get them?

don't cost an arm or leg lah......got it from YG...*biggrin2*

Quote:

Originally Posted by NepNut (Post 30134)
Very nice spec there SK... Hope you'll be able to do a species breesding in the near future :1thumbup:

i agree!!

Kevyn,
Good job :1thumbup: .I gave up on growing spectabilis in LL condition after they died eventually.... however those spectabilis hybrids is doing well for me*biggrin2*

should try again.....mine not doing well too at the beginning.....but after trial and error.....managed to raised a decent pitcher...:blush:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirKristoff (Post 30133)
thought i would share some pics of my young spectabilis pangulobau as well, the mature representations of this form show a much more tubby pitcher, and not near as extreme peristome...but we will see
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010097-1.jpg
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/P1010095.jpg
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...2/P1010094.jpg

its so nice.....!!

NepNut 21st June 2010 03:41 PM

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Kevyn,
I tried twice.... and both time encountered the same fate... it won't die right away but eventually mine just gave up... :crying:

kevyn chan 21st June 2010 03:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NepNut (Post 30147)
Kevyn,
I tried twice.... and both time encountered the same fate... it won't die right away but eventually mine just gave up... :crying:

since YG is having sale...why dont you angkut a few to try again.....?

they have 'sinabung' and 'sibuatan' varieties in stock...:tongue:

NepNut 21st June 2010 04:16 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
If you willing to sponsor then I will try again... *biggrin2**biggrin2**biggrin2*

kevyn chan 21st June 2010 04:41 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NepNut (Post 30150)
If you willing to sponsor then I will try again... *biggrin2**biggrin2**biggrin2*

aiyo...half the price from the 'stocks' that you acquire la......cheap sale..

sooxiwei 21st June 2010 10:28 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
sir kristoff's pictures are really stunning, will try out this nep some years later when I'm settle with life first

SirKristoff 22nd June 2010 06:44 AM

Re: A true gem...
 
spectabilis really is probably my favorite species, that or veitchii, i cant decide lol. but only particular forms of veitchii, but i love all spectabilis, so i think there is your answer rofl.
It really is worth the trouble to get it to grow, in my opinion. before i had a greenhouse, my north sumatra spectabilis form was in a west facing windowsill and it barely did anything (washington kinda sucks for attempting to grow plants on a windowsill) and well, it just wasnt cutting it, so i had to make room in my indoor grow rack with my other highlanders which involved buying more lights, moving tiers, rearranging plants etc, and that seemed to help...it started to grow well, and even flowered for its first time. Last year when i built my greenhouse and got my neps in it, i had never seen so much robust, healthy growth. So it really surprised me that when i moved them into the garage under fluorescent lights, that they did so well. now i hope this year in the greenhouse, with some coffee and ferts, they provide even more outstanding, lush growth.

Thanks for the great comments guys :)

kevyn chan 22nd June 2010 10:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SirKristoff (Post 30175)
spectabilis really is probably my favorite species, that or veitchii, i cant decide lol. but only particular forms of veitchii, but i love all spectabilis, so i think there is your answer rofl.
It really is worth the trouble to get it to grow, in my opinion. before i had a greenhouse, my north sumatra spectabilis form was in a west facing windowsill and it barely did anything (washington kinda sucks for attempting to grow plants on a windowsill) and well, it just wasnt cutting it, so i had to make room in my indoor grow rack with my other highlanders which involved buying more lights, moving tiers, rearranging plants etc, and that seemed to help...it started to grow well, and even flowered for its first time. Last year when i built my greenhouse and got my neps in it, i had never seen so much robust, healthy growth. So it really surprised me that when i moved them into the garage under fluorescent lights, that they did so well. now i hope this year in the greenhouse, with some coffee and ferts, they provide even more outstanding, lush growth.

Thanks for the great comments guys :)

hmm...i read somewhere on the coffee treatment and i also asked bout it somewhere but no response received, care to share some informations?*biggrin2*

SirKristoff 22nd June 2010 10:36 AM

Re: A true gem...
 
sure id be happy to contribute what ive learned from my experience with it :)
generally, in a majority of the plants ive treated with it (just plain old black coffee cooled to room temperature then poured through the roots) the plants have produced much larger, thicker and healthier leaves, as well as all around more robust growth, i believe you would have similar results with max-sea or a few of the other orchid ferts out there, the only orchid fert ive used is Schultz Orchid Food, and it gave some nice results.
For example, my rajah was looking pretty beat up from the previous owner, wasnt growing much...gave it a coffee treatment, now its growing faster than my N. truncata, and is rate up to pace with my N. spectabilis as afar as leaf production, and its no slow poke!
i think the common problem with "slow growing" neps is that they just are not getting the nutrients they require.
So basically, plain black coffee, poured through the roots every couple of months or even every couple of weeks, should in fact, yield in some very nice growth. for a show of just how well it works, check out Doug's post (DVG) on this thread here
http://lhnn.proboards.com/index.cgi?...ay&thread=3559

kevyn chan 22nd June 2010 10:55 AM

Re: A true gem...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SirKristoff (Post 30183)
sure id be happy to contribute what ive learned from my experience with it :)
generally, in a majority of the plants ive treated with it (just plain old black coffee cooled to room temperature then poured through the roots) the plants have produced much larger, thicker and healthier leaves, as well as all around more robust growth, i believe you would have similar results with max-sea or a few of the other orchid ferts out there, the only orchid fert ive used is Schultz Orchid Food, and it gave some nice results.
For example, my rajah was looking pretty beat up from the previous owner, wasnt growing much...gave it a coffee treatment, now its growing faster than my N. truncata, and is rate up to pace with my N. spectabilis as afar as leaf production, and its no slow poke!
i think the common problem with "slow growing" neps is that they just are not getting the nutrients they require.
So basically, plain black coffee, poured through the roots every couple of months or even every couple of weeks, should in fact, yield in some very nice growth. for a show of just how well it works, check out Doug's post (DVG) on this thread here
http://lhnn.proboards.com/index.cgi?...ay&thread=3559

hmm, i am trying to provide organic nutrients as much as possible for my neps.....does your media smells of stale coffee? or you flush them out the day after? i've tried once on my ampullarias, 1 pot with coffee, 1 pot with tea and another pot as a 'control'. the results for the coffee and tea is about the same, and i realised that the coffee and tea treated pots had a better growth rate compared to the 'control' however, the coffee treated pot has the foulest smell. :crying:

SirKristoff 22nd June 2010 11:12 AM

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I flush the pots two days after i give them the coffee to prevent any mildew or algae growth, i do not notice the coffee smell, my guess is if your media retains the smell, either your not flushing well enough, or the media is incredibly dense and not draining properly....

kevyn chan 22nd June 2010 11:19 AM

Re: A true gem...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SirKristoff (Post 30186)
I flush the pots two days after i give them the coffee to prevent any mildew or algae growth, i do not notice the coffee smell, my guess is if your media retains the smell, either your not flushing well enough, or the media is incredibly dense and not draining properly....

hmm....i think that should be my problem as the media retained much of the coffee residue i guess....then i should restart the experiment again after reading your experience here....

edwardyeeks 22nd June 2010 09:07 PM

Re: A true gem...
 
MT sells spectabilis at quite a good price. I don't think I can go with the coffee treatment yet(since my parents don't leave coffee overnight or day!) but I have seen the results on other websites and must say that it looks very convincing :smile:

Wish I could grow spectabilis, but since it's a highlander, it's a big NO-NO for me :sweating:

kevyn chan 22nd June 2010 10:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardyeeks (Post 30197)
MT sells spectabilis at quite a good price. I don't think I can go with the coffee treatment yet(since my parents don't leave coffee overnight or day!) but I have seen the results on other websites and must say that it looks very convincing :smile:

why should you give them stale coffee? brew a fresh pot and experiment it yourself..*biggrin2*

Wish I could grow spectabilis, but since it's a highlander, it's a big NO-NO for me :sweating:

i live by the seaside, 0.00 asl.......:1thumbup:


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