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thanks for all the effort to let this happen, still looking for free time to post you my d. burmanii seeds, wonder how long can they last after harvesting

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Hi David,sown the seed....they look so small like sand...Wow..Kinda hard to get hold of them.BTW thanks!

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Marvin, you're talking about the D. burmanii seeds. Yes they are veery tiny. I have to hold my breath and switch off the fan when packing them or else they will all be blown away.

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By the way, please note the announcement on the Seed Bank. Tks

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Hi everyone! Just an update...

Todate, we have collected RM224.94 for the Seed Bank from seed requests and given out 87 packets of seeds. I have spent RM70.60 on postage and operation costs. This gives us a profit of RM154.34.

I will be keeping RM50.00 in the Seed Bank for postage and operation costs. So this means we have an excess of RM104.34 now.

This project is suggested by members and is solely depended on member's support in donation and seed request to make it work. Well done fellow CP buddies of PetPitcher.

Perhaps we can start looking around and decide on where to donate the excess funds. Please check around and suggest conservation groups or a conservation cause that we can donate the excess funds too. I propose that we make our first donation when we hit RM500.00 perhaps in another few months or would you guys like to donate each time we hit RM100, etc?

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good job David !

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:1thumbup::1thumbup::1thumbup:
On behalf of everyone, I would like to express our sincere appreciation to your contribution on the conservation of the CPs, really, thanks for all the efforts. And also not forgrtting to thank the admin members and all the members who made this happen (donation of seeds etc.) :1thumbup:
David, I think we make the donation for every RM500, that safe you some time & work. I think RM100 is abit too little for donation.

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Yaa, it looks like RM500 would be just nice to start donating. If RM100, it will only be approximately USD$28.00. I actually did not expect that we could get profits so quickly. Thanks to members support.

So, any suggestions on conservation causes that we can support? I am so excited I just want to start sourcing around now... haaa, haaa., haa... RM500 is still quite a long way to go but it will not be if more members donate and buy seeds. :)

By the way, just to inform members, an updated set of profit and loss account, and transaction summary is presented to the Advisors and Admin Members on a monthly basis in the Advisor's Board for their inforamtion/review.

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OMG david you got that much selling the seeds???Can't believe it xDDDD

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Sorry for interrupt, why don't you use those money to buy other species of Carnivorous Plant so that there will be a lot of choices for every one to choose, by that way, a lot of people will be drawn to here for buying seeds.....

If so, i scared that many people will buy instead of donate....

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Err....I don't really understand what you mean, allenphoon. Are you suggesting that we sell various carnivorous plants or that we buy various carnivorous plants, harvest the seeds when the flowers bloom and sell the seeds?

Buying a lot of carnivorous plants will take a lot of resources and time. You'll have to open a nursery like Fauzi's if you want to have lots of them. Plus, the main purpose of the seed bank is to encourage the donation of seeds. Buying lots of carnivorous plants is expensive, hard to send and hard to maintain.

Don't worry, most of us here are quite generous *biggrin2*

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No...i mean that David buy other species of seeds from overseas with the balance money OR he can use it to buy seeds then he can dispatch to others members so that they can plant it to get more experience (of course, with charges) and hence, we can harvest it at the end by just asking them to donate a numbers of seeds back so that David will not need a lot of energy and time taking care of them while others help him to plant.
Examples
David gave out 10packts of seeds to 10peoples
Then, he requested to have a number of seeds back to him after the seeds had been harvested
Then, the circles reoccur or he can put the seeds into the seed bank for sell

Understand?? XD

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By that way, the seeds will generate more seeds, but of course, there maybe some problem like failure of germination, shipment problem and bla bla bla~

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The main purpose of the Seed Bank is to encourage members and enthusiasts in the idea of conservation as well. We wanted to give something back by generating money from the seed bank and donating it to conservation causes that will help perserve CPs in the wild. A lot of Cp sites worldwide is being destroyed at a very rapid rate because of development and poaching. As CP lovers we must be aware of this and show some concern.

It will cost too much to purchase other CP seeds and if we do purchase Cps that we have not cared for before, the percentage of that plant dying is very high. And soon we would have depleted the money and seeds in the seed bank. Moreover, the majority of CPs except a few like byblis, needs a long time to germinate, grow and flower. It is too long a time to wait and the risk of the plant dying at every stage of it's growth is very high. Also, if the seed bank starts buying seeds to give members, where will future funds come from and what happens if that member who received the seeds dissapeared? We are afterall operating in the virtual world. It is not practical.

The system in the seed bank encourages members to donate seeds by giving back free seeds from the seed bank to donors. The seed bank is relative new. Give it some time and we will have different CP seeds available. If you want more species of seeds available, donate to the seed bank and help promote it. That will bring more supporters and donors in and automatically increases the seeds and seed species in the seed bank. It is a joint effort by everyone and the seed bank will only work with the support of members.

I have started a seed exchange programs some time back with enthusiats and nurseries in other countries. These seeds will be made available when I have the time to sort them out. They just arrived a few days ago. :) There will be new CP seeds that the seed bank has never carried before. So check back soon.

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Okay...i will help to drag some members that i know to come here!!
Here, i wish you to success!!!
I also will glad to donate some, but now waiting it to be ripe.... :P

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David, wait until I get flowering CPs. I'll donate until the seed bank bursts with seeds *biggrin2*

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Encouraging to hear these positive remarks from the two of you.... Now I am worried if I can cope when that day comes... haa haa haaa...

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I have bought seeds from ebay many times b4, so far there is only one seller in thailand selling fresh seeds at good price... i buy from him many times b4, more seeds given and sometime extra FOC seeds from other species given as well.

example, i buy 50, i got more than 100... i buy 3 type, i got 4 type....

the suggestion to buy and resell the seeds can be done but our admin might need to put in a lot or effort to make this happen. So it is up to mr. Admin.

TQ for ur effort so far ! :1thumbup:

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It is not up to me, the Administrator, to make this happen. Members can and should take the initiative to do this if they want to or feel that it benefit members. Also, the suggestion by Allen was for the seed bank to buy seeds and give to members, not buy and resell as you mentioned.

If you are talking about buying and reselling, I think (my 2 cents lah) it would be better for members to just buy directly from the source? Seeds will be fresher and the person in charge would not need to waste his effort buying the seeds and reselling to members. If you're asking the seed bank to do this, then the seed bank will need to charge a higher price to members. It would not benefit members and the seed bank's objectives will need to be altogether changed. If the seed bank's objectives are to changed in this manner, it cannot be parked under PetPitcher as the seed bank's objectives will not be in line with the forum's mission and objectives. It cannot be done.

The seed bank is a seed exchange program where members can donate extra seeds that they may have for the mutual benefit of other members or request for seeds in the Seed Bank for building their personal collection. The Seed Bank does not exist to make money for PetPitcher or the Administrator. The idea behind this is to promote the cultivation and conservation of carnivorous plants and aid in the spread of seeds. Therefore the prices of seeds offered to members are below market value. Also, donors get free seeds. The Seed Bank is set up for three main reasons:

- Make available/affordable carnivorous plant seeds to more enthusiasts.
- Encourage member’s interest and enjoyment of these amazing plants.
- Get members involve in supporting carnivorous plant conservation work.

If members would like to start another program of buying seeds and reselling it to members, you are encourage to do so. At the moment I am not sure how it would benefit members. But if you can put in effort to work it out and members like it, then go for it.

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I agree with David. If people want to buy seeds they can get them from the same sources as Pet Pitcher would. The initial scope of the seedbank was to encourage members to share seed and promote CP conservation through donations if/when the seedbank generated enough money through sales.

Of course for the seedbank to work it requires donations from all members with a range of plants not just the same people donating the same seed all the time. As people donate a wider range of plants it will ensoutrage others to donate as well and this is how we generate a wider species range.

On the conservation point I woule recommend donating to the Meadowview Research Facility inthe US. They purchase degraded sites in Virginia, USA and restore the natural ecosystem and then reintroduce species. They are focussed on S. flava and S. purpurea as these are critically threatened. I have posted a link below. Cheers.

http://www.pitcherplant.org/

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Thank you Adam for the suggestion. I agree that is a good cause to donate to. We'll discuss further with the Advisors and Admin members on where to donate the money when the time comes.

The seed bank account stands at about RM350 now. As agreed earlier in this thread, we will make our first donation when the account hits RM500 + RM50... only RM200 to go. :)

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No new seeds coming in?? :)

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Dear members,

It is with regret that I have to inform all of you that I will not be able to run the Seed Bank anymore. Due to personal reasons I find myself unable to continue with this responsibility. I have been feeling guilty for some time now because of my slow response to all your seed requests and in sending out the seeds. It should not be like that.

However, the Trading Boards will still be there for members to trade or exchange plants/seeds with each other.

Therefore, I am proposing the following:

1. A 1 month period for donors with seed credits to request for current available seeds or to cancel their seed credits.

2. I will close the accounts after 1 month and we shall decide where to donate the money.

3. I will stop receiving donations of seeds for the Seed Bank with immediate effect.

4. Left over seeds will be donated to other seed banks, organisations or Admin members and Advisors.


Some of you have noticed and posted on the forum about the lack of members and activities on PP. Perhaps it is my fault as I have been neglecting the forum and its members as well. I will try to do something in the near future to spice up this place again. However, I hope more members would come forward to make this place exciting. This is your place to share your passion about your plants.

But, having said all that it is normal for forums to have life cycles that goes up and down. There will be times of "business" and times of "quietness". :)

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it is sad to know that....but i really wanna to thanks all the forumer who donate theirs seeds....just hope someday it can reopen again...so that i still can purchase cheap and nice cp seeds again....=D

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Why not let other members volunteer their service to continue operating seed bank. Maybe senior members can step forwards to offer themselves for the job. It's a pity to close it down as i feels that it has benefited a lot of members. Just my 2 cent.

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I also agreed with that.....sort out a best solution to continue.

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I do hope the Seed Bank still continues and tentative run by Senior member.

I do try and it was very hard to get the CPs seed in Malaysia before I joint this forum especially for beginner. Seed Bank will help beginner on learning how to sowing CPs seed because the cost was very low. This will help to push for more people to start for CPs plant.

Before I joint this forum, I love Drosera and I do not know where to get the the seed to start on it. I direct purchase from US and very lucky that the seed was arrival at my house. I did not apply for the permit but in actual, the envelope was open by Kementerian Keselamatan Dalam Negeri and Custom. The cost I spending for 10 type of Drosera was about RM150 but if I purchase from Seed Bank, it was only RM30.

Seed Bank was one of the benefit to beginner. Hope it still continues.

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Sad :( Hope the seed bank continues

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This is shocking! I really hoped the seed bank will continue. I think it's a problem that lack of senior members to continue the seed bank is the problem. Really hope that the seed bank will return ASAP.

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This is truly a bad news I really wish for the seed bank to continue. I can
only imagine how difficult it is to keep the seed bank running, thank you David
for the time and effort and I hope that someone able will step up and
continue what you've started. If it cant really be avoided, may I suggest
that before shutting down the seed bank, that the members be given one last
chance to purchase seeds......

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I am always open to the idea of members coming forward to volunteer themselves to help run the forum or take over the running of the seed bank.

Previously I have discussed with the Admin members and Advisors on spliting the seed bank into a few parts, meaning we have a few Seed Bank Managers and each of them handles a specific genus or category like such:

- Pitfall Trap 1 (Tropical Pitcher Plants)
- Pitfall Trap 2 (Others)
- Fly Paper Trap (Drosera, Pinguicula, Byblis)
- Bear Trap + Misc CPs (Dionaea muscipula + etc)

This way the workload is shared by 4 Seed Bank Managers and is not so time consuming on each Manager. However, the problem is gettinig members to volunteer... and I do not blame members if they do not volunteer. It takes alot of time and effort and this is only a volunteer work. Therefore if members do this, it has to be for the promotion of CPs and the benefit of members.

The members who volunteer for this will need to be more senior members and trustworthy. The Admin members and Advisors will need to agree before members are elected.

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Dear David,

This is a good idea. Thank

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waiting for good news !!!

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nice!!! thanks david

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Great..Kudos to you, David.:1thumbup:

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Just wanted to knowbif te seed bank will be reopening soon if I get any seed I'd love to be able to let others have some *biggrin2*

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well, you can send the seeds to one of us and let the volunteer to dispatch it, i sure more and more will going to volunteer themselves

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it's still better if those who want to donate seed to send the seeds directly to those who request for seeds instead of going through middle person to take care, because it will definitely affect the freshness of the seeds, moreover most of the forumers here are malaysian(tropical country), by letting the seeds go through 2 rounds of shipping under the horribly hot weather does not help either...restarting the whole seed bank program need volunteers who can put in the effort to help out on match making or to be middle person to take care of whatever is donated if applicable...

or perhaps any one who want to restart the program put your name on the list and try to sort out or discuss about whatever issues that need to be addressed?

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Dear members,

The profits from the Seed Bank for the duration of time it was operational is RM407.34. I am please to announce that RM410 has been donated to Malaysian Nature Society. Below is a copy of the receipt and letter of acknowledgement. Thank you to members of PetPitcher for supporting this project. I am happy that we have contributed to the conservation of flora and fauna in Malaysia.

Attachment 4485

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YaY good job everyone:1thumbup::1thumbup::1thumbup:

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Great job everyone! Keep up the effort.

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Any plan to restart seed bank? Or help needed to do so?