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Vincent 13th November 2009 08:56 AM

Making traps bigger, exclusive
 
To make the actual traps bigger, you set off one trigger,wait a good minute and a half, then do it again.When the first hair is touched, it sends a hormone throughout the plant to start 'growing'. I typically dont do it all the time now,since i work alot, but once a day even keeps the beetles at bay! Also, i know another little trick to make an overall vigorous plant. venus flytraps arent like cobra lillies, in other words, they like their roots hot. You can use black aquarium tank pebbles as a top dressing;or u can use black glass pebbles. Anything black and shiny will work, because black absorbs sunlight. I did both of those techniques when i wasnt working last year, and i was greatly rewarded with a burst in trap size and growth. I got the info from cobraplant.com, which they are in portland, OR.They have a disk that gives you anything you want to know on CPs.Anyways my new flytraps are in the windowsill, and will sit there for dormancy.They get there trigger hairs touched every once and a while, but next years growth with be even bigger. Happy growing Vin~

Vincent 14th November 2009 09:50 PM

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Reply to thee!!!

caseyhoo 14th November 2009 09:55 PM

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Hi Vincent,

Im not understand what you means by "To make the actual traps bigger, you set off one trigger,wait a good minute and a half, then do it again.". Can you please explain more on this?

Im looking forward for any way to increase my VFT trap size. Now, biggest at my garden is 3.5cm.

Thanx...

marvin1997 15th November 2009 02:50 PM

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Huh...?They like their roots hot?Won't they rot?

sooxiwei 15th November 2009 07:07 PM

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Can i know the normal room temperature over in your place please, to make it hot, it might be make it warm for you, but for us in Malaysia, we might be "baking" the root with the same temperature, thanks:1thumbup:

Vincent 16th November 2009 07:44 AM

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ok. Venus flytraps only live in the US, and right now they are going dormant. So right now it doesnt really matter to make the traps bigger; but ill explain more. There are 3 trigger hairs on each side of a fly traps mouth, sometimes more or less.It takes 2 touches on these trigger hairs to make it shut. But the interesting thing is how they shut. They actually grow over themselves in a split second, and the two concave dishes or lobes(the trap itself) rapidly inverts itself. But if only 1 hair is touched, the flytrap still signals grow just a little bit before it inverts itself. So, if u touch only 1 trigger hair, wait so when u touch it again it doesnt shut, so about 1 minute, and then repeat. In the summertime,flytraps thrive here;especially in direct full sun. Where i live it gets over 100 degrees f in the summer. I would give them a good watering and off they went! Venus flytraps love it hot, with about 1 inch of water standing. And they love hot roots. Thats what the black stones are for.But dont over water and let it stand, cuz they will rot. Where you live i wouldnt even worry about humidity for flytraps. The standing water gives it a bubble of humid atmosphere, if it is constantly filled. I hope this helps more =)

sooxiwei 17th November 2009 01:02 AM

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will try it out, thanks:smile:

rsivertsen 17th November 2009 01:12 AM

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Yeah, that's an old trick actually, and works great! They also respond very well to being fed on a regular basis. The traps snap shut by some shift in their fluids which causes them to reflex like a bimetalic strip used in thermostats, but have to grow to reopen; there is no reverse mechanism to turn back the internal fluid to reset the trap and re-open it again. If the trigger hairs are touched just once, it does give it a signal to start growing open unless usable food is detected inside the trap. Something inert will just cause it to reopen again. If you wait a few minutes, the trigger hair "forgets" that it was stimulated once already and doesn't close, but sends yet another signal to grow open if there isn't a meal inside the trap. - Rich

Vincent 17th November 2009 07:06 PM

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The other reason for making the traps bigger my way is so it doesnt have to close, or catch a meal. The plants do really well not being fed.But occasionally they catch there own food. Doing it this way makes it so the traps are always open, and can recieve full sun,thus creating desired red pigment in no time(3-5 days)then i know that almost all the leaves its making will stay for a very long time, cuz they need to close.

caseyhoo 18th November 2009 04:57 AM

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That is great information!!! Will try that on my VFT.

For red dragon or typical VFT, from yours experience. What is the biggest size of trap you had come accross? Thanx...

Vincent 18th November 2009 08:17 AM

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Thats funny. I was actually looking at them last night, debating which ones could get bigger. In the summer time, i make sure they don't eat, but i trigger there hairs as described above. That makes for monstrous traps, and they were so red,because they weren't eating anything, just growing. I have 2 typical venus flytraps(i think) that i got from home depot. cupped trap which is split into 6 plants. dente, probably my fav, make really big traps, and hardly any leaf. And an akai ryu, they are interesting. When they fully grow out, there traps,or the clamshell, is stretched wide out, so if something like a big dragonfly happened to be around the neighborhood, i couldnt see it having any trouble taking it down,for its a dragon itself! So its basically a toss up between akai and dente, i will make sure and keep ya posted as they start growing in the spring, along with the other flytraps im getting. akai x dente would be a very nice cross, but im thinkin i will wait and learn more about tissue culture, and start off with bigger plants ;)

Vincent 18th November 2009 08:24 AM

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akai ryu

Vincent 18th November 2009 08:32 AM

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http:///Users/michaelselway/Desktop/...t 15.29 #2.jpg

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dente, doesnt even look like its going to sleep, but yesterday i fed all the traps, one last feed before winter!

kevyn chan 18th November 2009 05:44 PM

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i wish to see the pics however they are not working....:closedeyes:

Vincent 18th November 2009 07:33 PM

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....ok..i am p*ssd lol i have tried and tried different ways of makin the actual pic show up on here, but its not workin and yes, i went to info on pet pitcher and that still didnt help me-.- help! downing ship lol

Vincent 18th November 2009 07:35 PM

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hmm... they work for me, all u do is click on them...u should be able to click the link, then see my pics ;)

kevyn chan 18th November 2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent (Post 23008)
hmm... they work for me, all u do is click on them...u should be able to click the link, then see my pics ;)

i think u should upload it onto photobucket etc and copy the image link.....

sooxiwei 18th November 2009 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent (Post 23007)
....ok..i am p*ssd lol i have tried and tried different ways of makin the actual pic show up on here, but its not workin and yes, i went to info on pet pitcher and that still didnt help me-.- help! downing ship lol

ya, it work for you because it is a direct link from your computer, which is not connected to all the rest of the world, I'll help you with those image posting, attach and send all the picture to me at lonelylion_soo@hotmail.com:smile:

Vincent 19th November 2009 06:33 PM

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ok i will try and do that tomarrow, very tired night

Vincent 20th November 2009 08:10 PM

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10 Attachment(s)
hope this works

Vincent 20th November 2009 08:12 PM

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sorry, please go to my profile, then to my photo album to see my plants...i really have tried everything to get my pics to show, so bear with me!

sooxiwei 21st November 2009 01:54 AM

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hi vincent, I don't see any photo album in your profile, I'll just upload whatever you posted on previous conversation:smile:

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...hyourgod/1.jpg
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http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...hyourgod/4.jpg
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http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...hyourgod/6.jpg
http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...hyourgod/6.jpg
http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...hyourgod/8.jpg
http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...hyourgod/8.jpg
http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...yourgod/10.jpg

all photos showed belongs to Vincent

Vincent 23rd November 2009 08:38 AM

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thank you =) there should be a pic on the right of my profile of a dente flytrap, called the horde. or you can go onto photo bucket, as i uploaded every pic ive done on there.

Vincent 6th December 2009 02:23 PM

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its not a flytrap anymore. Its me with a sword. hope this will make it more convenient for you, since i cant get a pic to show up for a post


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