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David 1st December 2008 05:39 PM

Re: Nepenthes gracilis? Or nep........???
 
Aliamyz,

N. xventrata is alata x vintricosa and not (alata x (ventricosa x alata). The "x" infront of "ventrata" indicates that it is a hybrid.

And the picture that edward post is xventrata, ie. alata x ventricosa. I have a very reliable source to confirm this.

Also Edawrd,

xventratas will loose it's beautiful reddish colours on the pitchers when grown in lowland conditions after a while. Not only that the pitchers will get smaller a little. These plants are grown in the highlands and has been brought down to the nursery where you bought it quite recently. That's why it is reddish but it would be more reddish if it is new stocks from the highland. You can see on the right side of the picture. The newest pitcher has a slight greenish bottom and smaller as it grew in lowland conditions.

edwardyeeks 1st December 2008 09:14 PM

Re: Nepenthes gracilis? Or nep........???
 
Hmmmm........sigh, guess I have to accept the fact that ventros is going to become greener. He is too big to put in a terrarium, as you can see, guys.......

Nvm.......

Cheers

poweramps 2nd December 2008 12:32 AM

Re: Nepenthes gracilis? Or nep........???
 
I guess all this confusion is caused by DeRoose Plants, whom never release the actual plants used for the crosses. We will never know for sure.

Marigoldsfail21 2nd December 2008 06:48 AM

Re: Nepenthes gracilis? Or nep........???
 
I have an alata x ventrata, and it does look a bit different than a ventrata. The peristome is less flared than in pictures I have seen of ventratas. Of couse I have only had the plant for a few months and have only seen several pitchers...

alienfx 2nd December 2008 12:08 PM

Re: Nepenthes gracilis? Or nep........???
 
Its funny many people keep buying xventrata thinking its a different nep. Those just recently come from Cameron can get very very big.And those who keep it in lowland will only get small pitchers with green colour and a faint of red.

My xventrate from seedling(2 years old):
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/DSC00107.jpg

My xventrate bought on feb this year:
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/DSC00087.jpg

Comparison:
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/DSC00093.jpg

Well,from this we can know xventrate is more suitable for cooler temperatures.

plantlover 2nd December 2008 04:56 PM

Re: Nepenthes gracilis? Or nep........???
 
I got tricked into buying 4 plants. Luckily I've sold 2 to my friends.

edwardyeeks 2nd December 2008 05:52 PM

Re: Nepenthes gracilis? Or nep........???
 
I find out that people keeps thinking that ventrata is gracilis. This is because of the shape of the pitchers. Whats more, most of the ventratas in nurseries are usually in such a bad shape, it is confusing.

I will not worry of my ventrata too much, as long it survives.

Cheers

plantlover 2nd December 2008 05:55 PM

Re: Nepenthes gracilis? Or nep........???
 
As long as it survive? I neglet them very badly. The media has already shrunk!! Still alive and pitchering.

edwardyeeks 2nd December 2008 06:05 PM

Re: Nepenthes gracilis? Or nep........???
 
I do not need to worry about the colour, as long as the plant is healthy. I never let the media of any of my CPs to dry out. It is always damp, no matter whatever CPs.

Cheers

alienfx 2nd December 2008 08:45 PM

Re: Nepenthes gracilis? Or nep........???
 
Wah,plantlover you got tricked 4 times...Oh my goshhh..Hope youre already an expert in identifiying xventrata now.Hehehe...


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