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David 15th October 2008 12:38 PM

Re: Nepenthes, and the Quest for the Perfect Soil
 
Good idea. I'll do that.

Cindy 15th October 2008 12:46 PM

Re: Nepenthes, and the Quest for the Perfect Soil
 
David, I was looking at the light levels and I can't find something that can fit because the plants grow at a balcony. The direction the area faces affects the light level throughout the day. Can we include the NSEW directions too?

David 15th October 2008 02:01 PM

Re: Nepenthes, and the Quest for the Perfect Soil
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 5443)
David, I was looking at the light levels and I can't find something that can fit because the plants grow at a balcony. The direction the area faces affects the light level throughout the day. Can we include the NSEW directions too?

I think I will split it into a few categories...

Outdoors growing
Full sun
Part shade
Medium shade
Full shade

Greenhouse/shadecloth
10% shadecloth
20% shadecloth
etc...

Windowsill growing / Indoors
Full sun
Part shade
Medium shade
Full shade
North facing window
South facing window
East facing window
West facing window

Balcony growing
Full sun
Part shade
Medium shade
Full shade
Facing North
Facing South
Facing East
Facing West

Terrarium / Grow Chamber / Artificial Lights

*I'll list the types of lighting and the light intensity


I will also include number of hours the plants are exposed to light for each category.

Just a thought... Looking at this, do we need to make it so detailed? I'm just wondering because, lets say if species A needs 50% direct sunlight 5 hours a day to do well, wouldn't it be same if it is grown in different environment? It would still need 50% direct sunlight 5 hours a day to do well.

David 15th October 2008 03:01 PM

Re: Nepenthes, and the Quest for the Perfect Soil
 
On the other hand, perhaps if we lay it out like that, then info seekers will not need to figure out how to provide the environment in a particular growing method.

Cindy 15th October 2008 05:18 PM

Re: Nepenthes, and the Quest for the Perfect Soil
 
We need to decide how detailed we want the info to be. Too little, the info become useless. But if there are too many factors involved, it becomes too complex and overwhelming. We are only at N. alata and I find myself staring very hard at my plant wondering which options I should click.

Instead of having a poll of what works, shall we have what doesn't work? For example, even N. ampullaria does produce pitchers for me during the year end when the light level drops too low. Or in direct sunlight for more than 5 hours, the species doesn't do as well.

We can expect that even newbies know that a good level of light and humidity are required for Nepenthes growing. But perhaps a certain species does better in more light or less light. We can start with the usual ones giving problems first and move on from there.

David 16th October 2008 01:44 AM

Re: Nepenthes, and the Quest for the Perfect Soil
 
Good thought Cindy. Will think about it and see how to incorporate into the limited options I have with the polls

Marigoldsfail21 16th October 2008 07:05 AM

Re: Nepenthes, and the Quest for the Perfect Soil
 
If only there was some way we could simplify the results so that we could have many different choices in the poll, yet be able to understand what the data means. I think we might just to have to find someone who owns a light meter, or a similar device, so we can determine the average lux(or lumen or footcandles) amount that each of the different "light environments" usually gets. Then maybe we would be able to find an average that we could then convert back into into the closest matching condition for each of the different sections.

Of course I'm just dreaming/wishing here...

David 17th October 2008 01:02 AM

Re: Nepenthes, and the Quest for the Perfect Soil
 
For now can everyone give me suggestions on the questions/answers that you think should be in the survey so that I can compile them. Only after I compiled everything will I figure out how to go about doing it. I need the questions and answers to be in the survey... as suggested by Cindy, what works and doesn't work.

Cindy 17th October 2008 05:22 PM

Re: Nepenthes, and the Quest for the Perfect Soil
 
Marigold, you are not dreaming. I do own a light meter. :laugh:

Anyway, if you own a digital camera, you can use that to gauge the amount of light present.

http://www.greenculturesg.com/forum/...wtopic=5829&hl

Marigoldsfail21 18th October 2008 05:44 AM

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Yaahhh!!! :2thumbup: Thank you Cindy!!


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