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Digging up the whole plant, roots and all, can be a bad idea, as they may have root parasites such as nematodes; N. amp basals root like a snap, and snap off easy enough, and may in fact be a way that they reproduce naturally in the wild; just imagine the weight of all those basals filling up with water after a heavy rainfall, causing them to snap off the main stem, and falling into wet leaf litter and moss.

However, if one knows for certain that the site is going to be destroyed, I would certainly rescue as many plants as I possibly could, and grow them in a safe place. - Rich

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Hi Ali

Yeah im gonna agree with rstivertsen with the taking wild neps if you are sure that the site is gonna be destroyed or something.To me we should only take it if we are 100% sure that they are gonna cut them all down,and after that should plant the nep to another site maybe and not take it to your own home.Well thats just my opinion

Ken

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If I had the chance, I would SUE THOSE RETARDED ROAD CONTRACTER! It is such a pity to see n. ampularia growing sooo big only to be destroyed. how come nobody appreciates them???

I agree with ken. That blood red gracilis is very rare. Haizzzzz.........unfortunately the law doesn't allow us to save those CPs. its ironic that the government doesn't allow people to take CPs in the wild because they don't want the CPs to become extinct while they themselves are destroying the habitat of neps without even knowing.

Sigh, I wish I could save those plants, I will call that blood red n. gracilis Survivirous. :laugh:

Cheers

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I agree with you guys too.Maybe cuttings without damaging the roots might help it to regenerate.
With this method, we are obeying the laws and saving the plants.
I was just too angry when i saw David's.

Edward,

Already started naming plants ah??

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Hehe David, I have a more convincing picture of the N mirabilis. The peristome is so broad as compaired to the mouth, so lovely.

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Below are two more pictures of the upper N.tricocharpa pitcher, loved the shape so much.

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Wow, it that a spider on the underside of the lid in the last pic? It's so strange looking.

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That's an ant. :smile:

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I just realised from TS's pictures there were two types of xtrichocarpa. One which is green, ie. both parent gracilis and ampularia is green; and one with speckle, ie. either both or one of the parent is green speckle.

You're picture says it all TS. :laugh: Looks really broad from the angle you shot the picture.

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Nice report and pictures David. It's sad to see a natural neps site being destroyed to make way for development. What can we do as a nep hobbyist/conservationist to stop human needs for progress especially in country where conservation issues are always the least important agenda in both general public and goverment minds??

IMHO, I believe we as responsible hobbyist should at least help conservation by collecting cuttings/seeds or need be the whole plant if we know the site is to be develop. There's a fine line between collecting samples from the wild for conservation and greed, so it's up to a individual judgement to decide whether he/she is a conservationist or a conservationist in "disguise".

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I won't feel bad to evacuate all threatened neps from any area just to save the germplasm. Takes long time to develop the genes I don't want to have it wiped out in an instant. The N Gracilis I have is one example. Carried the plant with me for 4 days thru several hundreds of road kilometers and two connecting flight. Now at least one plant from the area is saved... and thriving.

Robert is right, there is a fine line of difference between hobbist/collectors/conservation and commercial selling/selfish indiscriminate collecting. GREED is the key word.

Edwardyeeks, sueing is won't stop work being carried out nor standing in the way of the dozer. Best method is education. Educate the ignorant! The same note, we also have to balance development/progress with nature. For example, KL/PJ was a swamp before development, I am sure they were home to some neps prior to destruction. Again, the irony is there is the balance.