[arvin555]

Thanks for the info Shawn, Yeah we need to check or experiment on how it helps with older seeds, as new seeds should not need them. So far all my nepenthes seeds haven't germinated yet, but I had mixed with smoke water and without, we'll see.

Oh I sent you an email and a PM shawn, did you get it?

Back on topic, speaking of soaking, I wonder if there is any advantage to soaking CP seeds before sowing. Say even just with water. There are a lot of plant seeds that do well when soaked for a day or so before planting. Nepenthes seeds are slightly hydrophobic though, they float on the smoke water, and I have to shake them often to just try to get them a bit wet.

TTFN
Arvin