Nepenthes thorelii paper

[NepNut]

What do you think Cello? Do we have a winner here?? Very exciting...

[marcellocatalano]

Nope, sorry, I know what you mean with "hair stuck to the leaf", like they are painted, and that's a common feature for all these species... if that's the only hair you can find (a part from tendril and pitcher), then you have a N. kampotiana...

[shawnintland]

'Cello will have the definitive answer but for the moment I'll point out something he taught me last year...If you look with a magnifying glass you 'might' find that what look like little white hairs are actually, as he put it "painted on"! If you use a toothpick and look closely you'll notice you can't 'move' the hair. It is actually a "pigment of your imagination"!'

Anyway, welcome Tanphobia! And Thanks! It's always a bit exciting when somebody in Vietnam posts pictures of a potential N. thorelii. We never know when someone will come up with the real thing! Through these forums and some of the very qualified taxonomists that check in here, you'll get some good information that will help ID your plants.

See the papers written by Francois and Marcello, especially the new ones from the last year. They have the best and most up to date information available on most all the Indo-Chinese species of nepenthes. (There are links for both of their papers on this forum - email me if you have trouble finding them).

Finally, you will find that everyone around here really wants to see these plants found, but we also want to see them protected and left to grow in nature. If it turns out you (now or later) have found the long lost Thorelii, please think and act wisely, because it may truly be so rare that one greedy poacher could wipe it out of existence forever! Talk to Francois and Cello, they are, and have been, working to actually give these types of plants the very best chance of surviving.
~Shawn

[tanphobia]

Thank you all! If I have a chance I will talk to the seller because he grows LOTS of N."Thorelii". I'll ask if there's any plants with globose pitchers and hairy leaves. He actually got the interest in CP from his grandma!
Oh and one question : Is N.Thorelii in the verge of extinction right now ???

[marcellocatalano]

Maybe it's already extinct! Someone in an other forum said that the only plant in cultivation right now could be in Singapore, because the 2 plants growing in Vietnam died. Tell your friend, the seller, to NOT collect WHOLE plants in the wild, but just seeds and cuttings. These will take a bit more to grow, but the plants in the wild will survive, the plants in cultivation will be much more, and in the long term he will make MORE money and the plants in the wild will survive. Don't buy plants with VERY large roots like yours, they are obviously very old plants, taken out of the soil in the wild and put in a pot. All lowland Nepenthes species in your Country are in the verge of extinction because of human development (cities and plantations) and because people collect whole plants (not just cuttings and seeds)to sell them to unaware growers.