Help needed to id 2 plants

[cjloong]

Hi there
Plant 1
I've recently got a nep but the seller do not know what species it is. He told me it is an unknown species, yet to be identified (perhaps trying to sweet-talk me to buy rare species)... Anyway, if you can id it, would be great.



NOTE: Most pitchers are light green. This one is slightly coloured, after I feed it or perhaps due to the morning sun.

Plant 2
Also, I have another one that my wife bought for me 2 years back from Sarawak. Someone told me it is a highland species. Pitcher have been quite small for me for this one.

Picture of a pitcher


Picture of an unopened pitcher


Picture of the whole plant



Thanks in advance for your help.

[alcran]

The second plant is a ventricosa red. The first appears to be miralbilis x raff, amp x raff, or something along those lines.

[kentosaurs]

Hi

Looks like alcran already IDed probally both and definitly the 2nd is a ventricosa and ues a highland nep....For the first could be quite a lot of things....My hookeriana basals have that shape except more colour..Even sometimes baby amps could have necks..

Ken

[rsivertsen]

Actually, one of the many forms of N. ventrata going around, a very complex hybrid swarm. - Rich

[funkychips]

I have a similar plant like that before too, and I got it as ventricosa hybrid, should think it is a N x ventrata but just a guess. Poor plant didnt suvive long in my garden (wiped out by the heat).

[kepikimut]

nepenthes no 1 seems ampullaria hybrid.the peristome so similar with ampul.
may be mirabilis x ampullaria?

nepenthes no2. for sure.. x.ventrata