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David: Neopenthes Names and Meanings
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Do correct me or add if my information is wrong or not complete... http://s4.images.proboards.com/smiley.gif MALAYSIA Monkey Cup - This name came to be because monkeys were seen drinking water from the pitchers. As such the locals living in the rural areas refer to them as monkey's cup ie. monkey cup. Periuk Kera - This is the Bahasa Malaysia word for "monkey's pot" and it is also derived from the same reasons as the name Monkey Cup. I never did found out why it's "pot". Never seen monkeys cooking in them. Pitcher Plant - This name is also quite commonly use in Malaysia and is considered the layman's term for Nepenthes. I think this is used worldwide too. Zhu Long Cao - The Chinese in Malaysia call our beloved plant by this name. I need help here on the translation. http://s4.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif I think it means "money flowing through pig's cage". The Chinese believe that nepenthes are good feng shui in your house. The pitchers are like pots carrying gold into your house, ie. nepenthes bring prosperity. « Last Edit: Dec 24, 2007, 3:19pm by David »Link to Post - Back to Top http://s4.images.proboards.com/ip.gif LoggedMy Wantlist bifurcatum Senior Member http://s4.images.proboards.com/starblue.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starblue.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starblue.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starblue.gif member is offline http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...atum/biol1.jpg Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male http://s4.images.proboards.com/male.gif Posts: 381 Location: Batu Pahat, Johor http://s4.images.proboards.com/xx.gifRe: Nepenthes Names and Meanings « Reply #1 on Dec 24, 2007, 2:49pm » Hi David, I thing in chinese it should be 'Zhu Long Cao' not 'Chu Rong Choa' http://s4.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif « Last Edit: Dec 24, 2007, 2:50pm by bifurcatum »Link to Post - Back to Top http://s4.images.proboards.com/ip.gif Logged David Administrator http://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gif member is offline http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2..._cartoon1c.jpg http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/www_sm.gif Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male http://s4.images.proboards.com/male.gif Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur http://s4.images.proboards.com/xx.gifRe: Nepenthes Names and Meanings « Reply #2 on Dec 24, 2007, 3:20pm » Thanks Law. Amended Link to Post - Back to Top http://s4.images.proboards.com/ip.gif LoggedMy Wantlist wijaya Junior Member http://s4.images.proboards.com/star.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/star.gif member is offline http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...et/Avatar2.jpg Pride of Sumatra Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 54 Location: Medan, Indonesia http://s4.images.proboards.com/xx.gifRe: Nepenthes Names and Meanings « Reply #3 on Dec 25, 2007, 7:31pm » Hi all, will like to add some name used for nepenthes in Indonesia: Kantong Semar - being the most common used nationwide, as the pitchers shape is kind of round and fat similar to 'Semar' a name of one of the character in Indonesian "wayang" Kantong Rezeki - newly invented as neps become more popular the seller is linking the 'pocket of luck' into the name. Sorok Raja Mantri - in West Java as the pitcher looks like money bag used by the king at old time. Periuk Monyet - in Riau, in the wild monkey is drinking from the pitchers. Kantong Beruk - in Jambi, 'Beruk' also means monkey Ketakung - in Bangka Tahul-Tahul - in North Sumatra Kobe-Kobe - in New Guinea Ketupat Napu - in Central Borneo as "Napu" means swamp. Telep Ujung - in Central Borneo "telep ujung" is a holder for poison dart made of bamboo used by native, and neps pitcher looks like one. Selo Bengongong - in East Borneo which literaly means insect nests. Kantong Godah - in West Sumatra as a name of a traditional food made by using nepenthes pitcher. Got all this from several books published in Indonesia, thanks to them so I can share with you all. 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I'm curious. http://s4.images.proboards.com/smiley.gif Hey, Kantong Rezeki has a similar meaning as what the chinese calls neps in Malaysia, ie. bringing luck/prosperity. What does Ketakung, Tahul-Tahul and Kobe-Kobe mean? I bet there might be different names for neps in Thailand. I know that they are called Ma Kou Ma Kin Lin. Most probably I got the wrong speling but it sounds something like that. Hey, CP buddies from Thailand, care to share a little? http://s4.images.proboards.com/smiley.gif How about other countries? I'll combine everyone's efforts and comments and archive this in the Article Board. http://s4.images.proboards.com/grin.gif « Last Edit: Dec 25, 2007, 10:39pm by David »Link to Post - Back to Top http://s4.images.proboards.com/ip.gif LoggedMy Wantlist wijaya Junior Member http://s4.images.proboards.com/star.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/star.gif member is offline http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...et/Avatar2.jpg Pride of Sumatra Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 54 Location: Medan, Indonesia http://s4.images.proboards.com/xx.gifRe: Nepenthes Names and Meanings « Reply #5 on Dec 26, 2007, 10:37pm » Yup, quite a lot of name and calling as for each regions/tribes is different. Semar - is described as chubby, smart and wise in the 'wayang' story. Tahul-tahul, ketakung and kobe-kobe same meaning as "kantong" is in the native accent/ language? for every tribes they have their own language, like in Chinese there are Mandarin, Hokkian, Hakka, Cantonese etc. Hope this explain Ed Link to Post - Back to Top http://s4.images.proboards.com/ip.gif Logged nepenthesfreak New Member http://s4.images.proboards.com/star.gif member is offline Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 13 Location: Massachusetts, USA http://s4.images.proboards.com/xx.gifRe: Nepenthes Names and Meanings « Reply #6 on Dec 26, 2007, 11:27pm » A common one in America is "venus fly trap." http://s4.images.proboards.com/rolleyes.gif « Last Edit: Dec 26, 2007, 11:27pm by nepenthesfreak »Link to Post - Back to Top http://s4.images.proboards.com/ip.gif Logged(\__/) (='.'=) (" )_(" ) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination. tarence Global Moderator http://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gif member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male http://s4.images.proboards.com/male.gif Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong http://s4.images.proboards.com/xx.gifRe: Nepenthes Names and Meanings « Reply #7 on Jan 4, 2008, 12:21pm » N/freak : They call nepenthes `venus flytrap` in America ? ...... David : i think it`s `periuk` ( pot ) in BM coz the word `cawan`( cup ) is too small. Maybe the monkeys were seen drinking from bigger sized pitchers i.e. 8" long & quite wide pitchers so `cawan` won`t do it justice. My 2 cts laa. « Last Edit: Jan 4, 2008, 12:25pm by tarence »Link to Post - Back to Top http://s4.images.proboards.com/ip.gif Logged David Administrator http://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gifhttp://s4.images.proboards.com/starred.gif member is offline http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2..._cartoon1c.jpg http://s4.images.proboards.com/buttons/www_sm.gif Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male http://s4.images.proboards.com/male.gif Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur http://s4.images.proboards.com/xx.gifRe: Nepenthes Names and Meanings « Reply #8 on Jan 4, 2008, 1:55pm » Quote:David : i think it`s `periuk` ( pot ) in BM coz the word `cawan`( cup ) is too small. Maybe the monkeys were seen drinking from bigger sized pitchers i.e. 8" long & quite wide pitchers so `cawan` won`t do it justice. My 2 cts laa. Haa, haaa, I think your're right. Link to Post - Back to Top http://s4.images.proboards.com/ip.gif Logged |
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