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David 15th October 2008 09:32 PM

My tissue culture D. hartemeyororum
 
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Just sharing my new "pets". Taken them out of the tissue culture vials last weekend. The original leaves (reddish colour) seems to have died down but in it's place new leaves (greener leaves). :smile: Looks like this species is quite a fast grower. Quite happy about that. Now to try to get it to turn all red. :laugh:

Just to avoid misunderstanding, the media is not all course sand. That's just the topping. The media is about 2 parts sand and one part sphagnum peat.


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shawnintland 15th October 2008 09:43 PM

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David,what's under that sand? How deep is the sand and is anything else mixed in? I ask because my TC D. hartemeyororum just wasted away (melted down is a better description) ...although it may have been bothered by the long transit time to begin with. I worry that I was keeping them too wet when I see yours. Good luck with them!

David 15th October 2008 09:47 PM

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Ops! I just edited my thread to include that info. Only saw your info after I re-post

David 15th October 2008 09:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnintland (Post 5481)
David,what's under that sand? How deep is the sand and is anything else mixed in? I ask because my TC D. hartemeyororum just wasted away (melted down is a better description) ...although it may have been bothered by the long transit time to begin with. I worry that I was keeping them too wet when I see yours. Good luck with them!

I think being wet is not the problem. My pots are place in about 1cm of water and the media inside is wet. I still have a plastic clear cover over the whole plant at the moment to keep it very humid. Just removed it for the picture.

shawnintland 15th October 2008 10:49 PM

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Thanks David! Well, I did 'tests' with 1:1, 2:1, 1:2 peat:sand and a few with finely chopped sphagnum in each of the above. The D. harts all melted down so it was probably the transit shock.
I'm doing similar tests with germinating D. intermedia "Cuba" and the seeds on pure sphagnum have been up 3 days now and still no sign of any on the peat or peat:sand. I'm sure they will follow but it'll be interesting to see just how far behind.

Cindy 16th October 2008 08:38 PM

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I am using sand/peat (4:1) mix. This is fully hardened to my balcony conditions but I lost a couple when the weather suddenly turned hot and dry just for one day.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...m_hardened.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t..._hardened1.jpg

Try and spot the yellow glands!
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...rum_glands.jpg

David 17th October 2008 12:33 AM

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Cindy, yours have become very bushy. Can't wait for mine to grow like that. Did your plants also loose its original leaves (when it was in the vials) after taking them out of the vials? But it's cools huh when they replace that with a few new growing points.

shawnintland 17th October 2008 12:55 AM

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Those 'yellow glands' - are those the same as in that Drosera video from Austria? They were calling them 'runway lights' and showing them in micro-video! If you haven't seen it it's an easy download and there's a thread on it under movies/videos. Very weird, but very cool! You'll see what I mean! Anyway, those glands, under infra red glow like runway lights guiding the insects in!

Tarence 17th October 2008 12:10 PM

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Cindy...lovely sundews...wished i had ordered. heheh.

the last pic....did one of your sundews get munched on ? the one on the bttm rite corner......it kinda looks like what keeps happening to my garden grown sundews......darn caterpillars & baby grasshoppers.

Cindy 17th October 2008 04:49 PM

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Thanks, Shawn. Hmm...infra red light...I wonder if my remote control will work. :laugh:

Tarence,
Nope, fortunately. Only my N. distillatoria pitchers got chomped on recently. :mad:

arvin555 21st October 2008 01:28 AM

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I forget now shawn do they glow in infrared light or UV light? Need to watch the video again :)

Pretty sure your TV IR will not do the trick Cindy, sorry. But can't figure out what other source there is to test. UV lights, there are many LED UV lights being sold now in toy stores, the ones that allow you to write a secret message and use the UV light to show the message. That toy worked on my brother's scorpion nicely and even to show security indicators on paper money that glow on UV lights.


TTFN
Arvin

shawnintland 22nd October 2008 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by arvin555 (Post 5930)
I forget now shawn do they grow in infrared light or UV light? Need to watch the video again :)

Pretty sure your TV IR will not do the trick Cindy, sorry. But can't figure out what other source there is to test. UV lights, there are many LED UV lights being sold now in toy stores, the ones that allow you to write a secret message and use the UV light to show the message. That toy worked on my brother's scorpion nicely and even to show security indicators on paper money that glow on UV lights.


TTFN
Arvin

Got me Aarvin! I can't remember either! If I get time to find the movie in my computer I'll watch it again. Please report back in here if you watch it first. I hope Cindy can see that film (even with the bizarre soundtrack and jokes!)

Shawn

withoutborders 25th October 2008 07:21 PM

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i grew mines in 100 % course river sand, kept them on the dryier side ,on the water tray on alt days .with 40-50% sun, it seems to do th job..it BUSHY !:2thumbup: but quite green..and mines a weirdo,sometimes dewy sometimes dry..

David 4th November 2008 11:08 PM

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Just some updates on my harte. The bigger plants have started to have reddish stems. :smile:

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Jonathan 4th November 2008 11:18 PM

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Wow bro... they look gorgeous... you must be very happy :smile:
Good job bro...

Regards
Jonathan

David 5th November 2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan (Post 6990)
you must be very happy :smile:

Yes I am :smile: And am a very proud "father" to them... :laugh:

shawnintland 5th November 2008 02:29 PM

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Great job David, I'm embarrassed to even think about taking a picture of mine! I think you guys and your artificial light set-ups are winning me over in terms of Drosera growing! The D. tokenensis seem to be doing the best out of everything I got from Alex and the D. scorpionoides gammae from CP_Unlimited are doing great!

David 5th November 2008 03:35 PM

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Shawn,

Why not build a few grow chamber just for your "pet" Sundews? I want to see as I know it'll be really nice. Or build something like what hongrui showed us before. A structure that protects the plants from rain. :)

arvin555 7th November 2008 12:30 AM

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Was able to review the snaptentacles and running lights, and unfortunately I couldn't find any info if they glow in UV or IR, he used a flashlight to show that the running lights glow.

Yeah I love looking at mixed community bog pots... A mix of droseras would be nice too. That is why I have 12" diameter pots that are shallow for these, but 3 of them are now used for VFTs, but have some drosera plantlets sprinkled around.

TTFN
Arvin

David 8th November 2008 07:18 PM

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This species is fast becoming my favourite Drosera. i realised today that my "pet's" tentacles are turning red. New leaves are also starting to go red.

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Jonathan 9th November 2008 04:38 PM

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Hi Bro...

Hmm.... Did you feed it with your blood bro? :tongue:

Hahas kidding... it's colouring up pretty nicely... soon it will be red red and red :biggrin:

Regards
Jonathan

Amelie.Poulain 20th December 2008 05:34 PM

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David, I'm getting the usual 'D. indica like' problem with my D. hartemeyerorum. The bottom part of the stem dries up, and the top part will start to topple.

Any advice? Should I cut + just poke it back in the media & pray hard it'll take root? Or do I chuck it in water?

David 20th December 2008 06:13 PM

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A few of my plants are also showing this symptoms. I wonder why. Not only that the new leaves are very short. I am as lost as you. Lets see if others know about this.

bactrus 20th December 2008 06:47 PM

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Mine has topple over. The upper leaves are now much longer and more vigorous causing it to topple over. The insects it caught from the exhibition has given it sudden growth spurt.

Cindy 21st December 2008 12:00 PM

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The D. indica and D. hartmeyerorum plants can be cut and the upper portion of the stem used as cuttings. Similar to how we do it to Byblis liniflora. Having said this, I have not tried it on D. hartmeyerorum before though a friend had. He said that the mother plant responded by sending offshoots up from the base of the stem.

Delwin 2nd January 2009 12:29 AM

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The taller plant was cut and replant again
Now i have 3 plant

http://s392.photobucket.com/albums/p...t=DSC00295.jpg

bactrus 2nd January 2009 11:02 PM

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Mine is flowering now. Should I cut the flower?

Delwin 2nd January 2009 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bactrus (Post 11058)
Mine is flowering now. Should I cut the flower?

Dont cut it, it is one of a few drosera that dont die after flowering:laugh:

bactrus 3rd January 2009 09:10 AM

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I know, hoping it will be like D burmanii, keeping it alive by cutting flowers. Pollinaton? Self?

Delwin 3rd January 2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bactrus (Post 11081)
I know, hoping it will be like D burmanii, keeping it alive by cutting flowers. Pollinaton? Self?

It is self pollination:1thumbup:

bactrus 5th January 2009 12:25 PM

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Thanks guys. Now have to kill off all other drosera flower stalks to avoid contamination.

bactrus 12th January 2009 12:13 PM

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Took some pictures over the weekend. Quickly upload now.

The Flower
I snap the picture at about one in the afternoon as the sepals were starting to close.
https://forum.petpitcher.net/picture....&pictureid=461

https://forum.petpitcher.net/picture....&pictureid=462

The lens-headed tentacles and another inflorecence of D hartmeyerorum.
https://forum.petpitcher.net/picture....&pictureid=464

The lens-headed tentacles (in yellow).
https://forum.petpitcher.net/picture....&pictureid=463

In Stewart McPherson's book, Gelistering Carnivores (p110, Figure 90), the lens-headed tentacles will glow under torch light. Unfortunately I don't have permission to publish the photo. Will have to find a way to capture the picture in the evening.

The petiole turning grasping an insect in order to subdue the insect, protect its nutrient source from other insects and maximise surface area for nutrient absorption.
https://forum.petpitcher.net/picture....&pictureid=408
Picture courtesy of Uncle Ham.

David 12th January 2009 12:27 PM

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Your plant is growing very well for you Ban Aik. Mine have not flowered yet, sad to say. Nice photos that you have taken.

bactrus 12th January 2009 01:01 PM

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:blush: You make me blush.

David, try feeding the plant weekly. The tentacle in the last picture, well, it died many weeks ago and has grown about 2 inches since then.

The last photo is provided by Uncle Ham, who hails from MNS. A friend Lim and I met during the floral fest. Managed to poison him also. Oh, his friend too.

David 12th January 2009 06:22 PM

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Hmm, I think that might be the problem. I never fed my hart and on top of that it is grown indoors under growlights. Ok, will start feeding it and see what happens.

** Off topic: Can you help talk to Uncle Ham and see if PetPitcher can work out some programs with MNS to promote both CPs and conservation of nature in Malaysia. It would be great if we can work with them. **

Amelie.Poulain 13th January 2009 12:52 PM

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mine's not red at all, but they do have them lens-headed tentacles.

https://forum.petpitcher.net/pict...&pictureid=498

https://forum.petpitcher.net/pict...&pictureid=499

BA,how's your growing condition? I put mine in a clear covered container, you can see the it in the 1st photo - I put the pot on top of the container.

David 13th January 2009 02:55 PM

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Wow Athene! That's very humid in the clear container. But they look good.

kentosaurs 13th January 2009 10:13 PM

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Hi David

I'm not sure if when the picture was token that the plant is inside the container.....Probally athene took it out.

Ken

Amelie.Poulain 13th January 2009 10:30 PM

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Of course it's out of the container! Otherwise, we won't be able to see anything, the container is all foggy with water condension. :)

kentosaurs 13th January 2009 11:45 PM

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Oops i misunderstood david's post sorry :p

Ken

Amelie.Poulain 19th January 2009 09:33 PM

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My D. hartemeyororum 'Constrictor'

https://forum.petpitcher.net/picture....&pictureid=539

David 19th January 2009 11:14 PM

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That's totally cool Athene!

bactrus 21st January 2009 03:12 PM

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Constrictor alright. Don't have time to post some picture of the D hartmeyerorum flowers. I noticed that even the flowers have lens cells.

soonsuseong 21st January 2009 07:53 PM

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can this species really coil around their prey like that??? i am fascinated! hmm, sure you didnt gracefully twist the poor insect around the tentacle, athene??? it looks like something from a science fiction movie!!

soonsuseong 21st January 2009 07:54 PM

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in fact, pronoucing the name of this species is a handful, i will need to go for vocal lesson to get it right!

Amelie.Poulain 21st January 2009 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by soonsuseong (Post 12528)
in fact, pronoucing the name of this species is a handful, i will need to go for vocal lesson to get it right!

It's easier to pronounce when you know that it's named after the Hartemeyer couple. I pronunounce it as harte - meyer - ro - rum.

And no Soon, I didn't coil the plant around the grasshopper, but I did handfeed it though :2thumbup:

kentosaurs 23rd January 2009 11:02 AM

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Well at least it lives by its name

Ken

kepikimut 2nd April 2011 03:17 AM

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sorry to have "awaken" old thread back.:shy:

my hartmeyhttp://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3...yerorum.th.jpg

sorry if it looks "messy"

seedgrown..*biggrin2*
I do not know when exactly this hartmey seeds falling on the pots and growing like this. I estimate about 1 year.


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