edwardsiana x burbidgeae

[SirKristoff]

Ken- i would get this hybrid over a northiana any day.
hell i want MORE of this hybrid
its freaking gorgeous....and very hardy to boot.
Been a couple weeks with this one now i think, its inflating a pitcher, and the pitcher it came with is still up and is even drooling. My conditions are no longer ultrahighland indoors since summer is getting closer, but that will change once it goes outside. I can now only provide highland - intermediate conditions indoors. Once the greenhouse is finished, back into highland-ultrahighland conditions for these babies.
Robert, has yours proven to be a steady grower? mine has so far...
hoping to see a pitcher on this next leaf as well....
how large is yours in your photograph? cant really tell but that pitcher is absolutely stunning. This hybrid has some serious beauty to it, even if it is possibly burbidgeae x villosa or burbidgeae x xHarryana......Hopefully it IS burbidgeae x edwardsiana, but none the less, is a hybrid that is going to go down as one of the most stunning natural hybrids, atleast in my book.

[paphioboy]

Ken- i would get this hybrid over a northiana any day.
hell i want MORE of this hybrid
its freaking gorgeous....and very hardy to boot.

SirKristoff, hardy in the US is not the same as hardy in the tropics. most growers here are unable to provide highland/ultrahighland conditions without some elaborate kind of set-up. So personally, my recommendation would be to get a northiana instead, as it is a lowlander, although it might take some time to adjust after initial potting.

[SirKristoff]

Originally Posted by paphioboy

SirKristoff, hardy in the US is not the same as hardy in the tropics. most growers here are unable to provide highland/ultrahighland conditions without some elaborate kind of set-up. So personally, my recommendation would be to get a northiana instead, as it is a lowlander, although it might take some time to adjust after initial potting.

paphi if you read what robert said, he is growing his in lowland conditions, so far successfully.

[shawnintland]

Hi there, I missed this post for a while! I also picked up a few of these last year, although from another source. They are being subjected to extreme lowland conditions in my shade house at about 50 m. a.s.l. but at least get misted a few times a day. My plants get soaked along with everything else...is there a reason you were inclined to just barley keep them moist? The last pictures I took are from March, but I'll try to get down there and snap a few more if the pitchers are any bigger!
Shawn
PS After recently seeing the conditions that these two like to grow in naturally, I'm amazed that mine are still alive!

[aphos]

Originally Posted by shawnintland

Hi there, I missed this post for a while! I also picked up a few of these last year, although from another source. They are being subjected to extreme lowland conditions in my shade house at about 50 m. a.s.l. but at least get misted a few times a day. My plants get soaked along with everything else...is there a reason you were inclined to just barley keep them moist? The last pictures I took are from March, but I'll try to get down there and snap a few more if the pitchers are any bigger!
Shawn
PS After recently seeing the conditions that these two like to grow in naturally, I'm amazed that mine are still alive!

Hi Shawn,
What is the fomular of media you use to grow them? I am interested in it but I'm looking for someone who can send it to Japan for me, hehehe.

Cheers,
Pop

[shawnintland]

Hi Pop,

Well, I used my 'normal' mix; 4 parts coco cubes/ 1.5 parts pummice (various sizes)/1 part charcoal and sometimes a handful or two of chopped sphagnum. I don't have any special insight into the mix for these guys but after seeing the comment about 'light' watering I'm wondering. I just went down to check and all 3 plants have miserable looking pitchers right now...of course I've been gone for almost 1 month too! But I'll probably switch the mix in at least two of them to a better draining mix.
After seeing the burbidgeae in situ, I'm wondering about the role of the ultramafic soils. The rajah, villosa, and ,I think, the burbidgeae all seemed to inhabit zones where this was the predominant soil type...I wonder how much ultramafic soil is available in Japan? Maybe we could set up a trading Empire! I'll PM you some other thoughts soon.
~Shawn

[Robert]

Originally Posted by SirKristoff

how large is yours in your photograph? cant really tell but that pitcher is absolutely stunning.

Skt, it was about 4 inches length. I'm eagerly waiting for the next pitcher to form.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by shawnintland

Hi Pop,

After seeing the burbidgeae in situ, I'm wondering about the role of the ultramafic soils. The rajah, villosa, and ,I think, the burbidgeae all seemed to inhabit zones where this was the predominant soil type..
~Shawn

Hi Shawn, do you think the ultramafic soil are fragmented sandstone and clay in nature. At least from my perception , and having visited, those ground where rajah, villosa and burbidgeae look similar as the soil found in most part of Malaysia and Indonesia. Thailand?

I'm now testing to see if highland intermediate neps will do well with coarse clay. Later on will try out with highlander as i don't have any at the moment. I'm positively sure they would but just curious to find out.

[shawnintland]

Hmmmm Robert! On the surface they look very similar but I think the mineral/metal content of the soils on Kinabalu where these species were growing were much higher than the 'normal' soils in My and Indo. There's a pretty simplified description in Wikipedia under 'ultramafic soils' that gave me a start but I need to read a lot more to claim any depth of understanding! They discuss plant species 'adapting' to grow in these metal-rich soils where other things can't. All made lots of sense...until I remembered that the plants growing epiphytically on trees and logs looked every bit as healthy as those in the ultramafic soils! So much for that theory!

[SirKristoff]

Most recent pitcher on mine...this is a bit of an adjustment pitcher, hince the shape...