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Old 8th December 2010, 01:26 AM
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I regretted to let my campa flower, which ends up in a loss loss situation where there are no pollen while the plant takes almost forever to recover...
We all learn that way...Cway but i thought your campa is still too young that's why it strained the plant greatly.


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wow...this one look irresistible.....
Hopefully....until i managed to collect the pollen, i'm keeping my finger cross
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Old 8th December 2010, 10:33 AM
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well, i will keep my fingers cross too if you collect the pollen successfully, haha
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any tips, Robert?
Sorry to say, I'm still a noob when it comes to rooting cutting/basals...

For those who are interested in doing nep breeding, these are a few points that I would like to share regarding nep flowers

1) I only cross the female nep flower that flower naturally. Meaning the nep grow the full cycle from lower pitchers to upper pitcher (for most neps anyway) and were growing healthily. Flowering process takes a lot of energy out of nep especially female nep.

2) I won't cross the flower that was induced by stress (newly accquired plants, poor growing conditions (including extreme changes in weather pattern), plants that flowers too early and etc) will usually abort it's flower (die or dry immaturely). Waste of pollen and also great waste of energy for a already weak plant. Just better to cut this flower away to save the energy for the plants.

3) I have encountered some male nep that will flower but the pollen bud will stay solid (pollen not release), ie. N. x gentle. I'm not sure if it's weather related or it's an anomoly of TC plant. Some female intermediate species/hybrids flower will be aborted as well after sucessful pollination and I think this is largely due to the inappropiate growing condition or perhaps another TC plant anomoly, ie. N. vietchii "green" from MT.

That's all I can think of for now... pls feel free if you have more points to add... Thanks.
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hmm...that means hibridizing neps or i should say breeding neps also depends on the origin of the neps ie seedgrown, tissue culture, species, hybrids, lowland, intermediate, highland....so its worthwhile to cut off any flowers that you think is not favoring the mother plant as it waste lots of energy and theres not suitor (pollen or flowers)......unless you have many specimens to be experiment with
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Default Re: Flowering N. sanguinea or it's hybrid.

Don't get me wrong, most TC plants on the market are fertile and can produce viable seeds.

There's no short cut to get good flowers that'll produce good and viable seeds. However, all this take times if you grow your nep from small seedling.
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erm...then why sometimes the TC plants are unfertile, like the miranda? i read it from previous post...
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Not all miranda are infertile... As to why some TC plants are like that... I don't have explaination, that why I called this an "anomoly"
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I read somewhere that tc'd plant are genetically defective and are known to exhibit certain traits not consistent with those of seed grown originals or in other word being 'abnormal'. I'm not sure being infertile is one of the abnormality that only affected those from tc or does it affect the seed grown plants as well. Hope someone can enlighten me on this.
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in human cell replication process, even during mitosis, human cell also make mistake but in 1:6million...
or maybe just like the BE(if not mistaken) having one variegerated N.rajah out of their uncountable TC plant N.rajah.
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in human cell replication process, even during mitosis, human cell also make mistake but in 1:6million...
or maybe just like the BE(if not mistaken) having one variegerated N.rajah out of their uncountable TC plant N.rajah.
Aiyoh Allen, talk about nepenthes i liao.....now you want to bring in human cells replication process, i si kiao kiao

From the little that i know.... in tc they will keep only those with desirable traits and discard the rest for the obvious reason. What you saw might be the 'chosen one'.
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