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Old 25th February 2010, 05:02 AM
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To be precise, it's 4 new species and 1 new variety. I just produced the ITALIAN version of my new book: "Nepenthes della Thailandia". The result of my research, started in 2004. I used it to publish 5 new taxa. They are:

N. kerrii: it has never been in cultivation until recently, when it was introduced through western nurseries labelled as sp. Trang (from MacPherson's book) or sp. Satun. It's closely related to N. kongkandana (Songkhla province). It grows in the Tarutao marine park, in the Satun province. It has actually nothing to do with Trang, but I asked Stewart to use the name of another province to better keep the secret around the true location. My friend Trong, following my request, went back to the horrible place where this species grows, just to do the measurings and take the photos for its publication, so he was with great merit included among the authors.

N. suratensis: closely related to N. andamana, it grows in the Suratthani province and it was spread in cultivation by Thai growers as N. "tiger Surat". Fortunately, considering the wild populations and what was introduced in cultivation, it never seems to produce hybrids with N. mirabilis, so the plants you bought with that name are the real thing.

N. chang: from the mountains of Ko Chang up to the Banthad chain, in the Trat province. It has never been in cultivation but the seeds sent to western nurseries are germinating in these days. It's closely related to N. kampotiana (coastal Trat province).

The descriptions of these new species, together with the present situation of the Indochinese Nepenthes flora, can be found here:


The var. globosa has been reviewed by Charles Clarke, the other descriptions have been reviewed by Alastair Robinson. The Latin translations were made by Jan Schlauer (var. globosa) and Andreas Fleischmann (the 4 species).
If one day the DNA will prove me wrong, or if the lumpers don't agree with my work, then N. kongkandana/kerrii can be considered one species, and the same goes for N. andamana/suratensis and N. kampotiana/chang. I say this to prevent funny theories like all of them being N. kampotiana, or N. andamana being N. bokorensis or a hybrid N. gracilis x kongkandana etc. Ah, and by the way, the var. globosa might then be a new species or just a form of N. mirabilis.

The var. globosa (I remind you that the term "globosa" was originally proposed for this plant by Shigeo Kurata) was supposed to be published on the CPN, but later on I found myself with the possibility of publishing all of them together and much sooner with my book, and I went for it. My apologies to Jan Schlauer and Barry Rice, the CPN co-editors, who were so helpful, but I'm pretty sure that they are happy anyway, seeing 5 brand new taxa taking the field.

About conservation in the wild, we just started working on it.

For the English version of the book you'll have to wait another 3 years, as I need money and room for the copies. If you can't wait so long, if you speak Italian or if you don't mind spending 30 euros + postage to buy a book that you can't read, but with 207 pages and 185 color photos, write me at rafflesiana@yahoo.com and I'll tell you how to get a copy (Paypal only). For any question or comment, I'll be ready to develop this topic on the pitcher-plants.com forum.
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Old 25th February 2010, 06:18 PM
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OH my god I want that book!!But Ican't read it and no $$ oopsie
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Hi Cello,
Good to see that all these years of hardwork finally bear fruits. We're now one step closer to properly name those confusing "sp tiger" and you played a big part to make it possible. Please keep up the good work.
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I was waiting to finish reading your post to ask you whether u have an english version, but got the answer in yoru last paragraph. I think 3 years will be a worth while wait, but I do hope it can be sooner...

Great work. Thanks for your contributions
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Okay got a question....I only read it through once..So that mirabilis var globosa is actually what we hobbyist call N.Viking/globosa right???
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Ok that I do not understand...
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Hi!
this is just a little bump!
I've seen that there are still many growers - especially from the tropics - calling their plants "tiger Suratthani" and "Viking". Again, here is a simple summary, hope it helps:

N. "viking", globosa and "Trang bizarre" (these names have never been published) are all the same plant, that now has the official name N. mirabilis var. globosa.

N. "tiger suratthani" = N. suratensis


N. "tiger Songhkla" = N. kongkandana

N. "tiger Trat" = N. kampotiana

The other new species, N. chang and N. kerrii, are rare on the western market, and absent on the SE Asian market. Whenever they are for sale, anyway, they are sold with the right name because the seeds came from me
More info (and wikipedia links) here: www.marcellocatalano.com/indochina.html

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Thank you for the lesson. Appreciate it.
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Marc, I think kerrii is here already cos i know of a seller getting it from BE
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Marc, I think kerrii is here already cos i know of a seller getting it from BE

Sure, it can be, seeds of N. kerrii, N. chang and N. thai were sent to the main nurseries of all Countries, including BE, but no problem with those three, they are always labelled correctly
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