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Old 21st July 2010, 02:09 AM
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I recently got a VFT for a week. After feeding it with 2 beatles, the mouth traping them turns black! Some little small black spots where notice other 2 mouths.

Could it be the beatles? or the VFT going through dormancy? or dying to conserve energy for two new leafs?
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Old 21st July 2010, 02:45 AM
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I guess the beatles are too big or too hard for VFT to digest.
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Old 25th July 2010, 11:01 PM
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I guess the beatles are too big or too hard for VFT to digest.
Yup. The trap can't close properly and germs went inside and are killing the traps. But don't worry they will only kill the two traps and not the whole plant
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Old 26th July 2010, 12:11 AM
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Just leave the plant alone, you don't have to feed it it gets its nutrients from the peat/LFS. When it wants something it will secrete a nectar attracting insects, so basically, you are abusing/taking advantage of the plant.
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Old 26th July 2010, 03:01 AM
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Thanks folks! I am really a novice towards these plants.

I read about feeds that are bigger than the traps will cause them to die. However, I do have another theory and not quite sure about it though. It is great to have people sharing views and experience on this.

Well, I have been observing my VFT for the past week and yes, in the end the traps died. (Anyway... the beatles are between 1/3 to 1/2 the size of the traps). Apparently, 1 or 2 old traps without any feeds are experiencing partial blackening. At the same time, 2 premature leafs have doubled in size for the past week!

There are two hypothesis here...

1) Traps died due to improper feeds?
2) Traps died due to exhaustion or redirect of plant's energy?

The first is a well-shared and published view.
The rationale for the second view is from the idea that traps consume huge amount of energy to digest a feed. The plant probably has this dilemma of whether to direct its limited resource of energy to digest the feeds or provide growth to new leaves. If new growth is of more important, divesting energy from old traps might be a justified solution.

This is something that I learned from my other non-carnivorous plant. It is the similar theory that some books on CPs suggests trimming off the flowering stalk of vft to prevent exhaustion of the plant.

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Just leave the plant alone, you don't have to feed it it gets its nutrients from the peat/LFS. When it wants something it will secrete a nectar attracting insects, so basically, you are abusing/taking advantage of the plant.
Hey Shamp, Vfts don't get nutrients from their medium, if they have nutrients in their media they might die from root burn. They still get energy from the Sun but feeding them are like fertilizing normal plants
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Old 26th July 2010, 10:44 PM
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Haha that made me laugh out loud. That is so incorrect. EVRYTHING has nutrients in it. peat/sphagnum has very little nutrients but that still is nutrients. If it had no nutrients they would shrivel up and die, they need nutrients, but to much will kill them. I have been studying cps, and growing them before your were, born. Here's a tip learn before you post.
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That's uncalled for. We are here to share and learn from each others, not to show who know more or how long you've been in this hobby. Correct if wrong, no compliments needed if right but certainly please don't belittle others just because you know more or you thought you know more than others.
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hmm...its actually how you express yourself and how you take things in your hand...there are many ways to skin a cat (fyi; i'm a animal lover, this is just an idiom).....too harsh ppl might think you're rude.....too soft ppl might just ignore.....

some time in this forum not long ago, can't recall if it is a moderator or senior member, reminds that to get the facts right before you comment and not just blurting out your thoughts as if you think its alright.

new members are around and they really rely on very much on the infos given here ( i am one of them) if you really think that you want to share your knowledge here please feel free to express yourself, knowledge has no boundaries.

i know sometimes we get bored with the same old questions brought up by the newcomer/ noobies, why not treat them as a new friends in this hobby and we share our invaluable knowledge and of course suggestions with logical sense....and not just leaving them in darkness, by the time you guys argues in their thread...it might be too late to safe his/her precious cps..
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