Need ID for this FEMALE plant...

[marcellocatalano]

flowering at that stage is normal, sometimes they vine for meters, sometimes they flower when they're just shrubs. Some species of the thorelii aggregate flower at the actual rosette level and that's quite peculiar.

Your plant is already vining, and if it wasn't because we need more proves to say that, I would say that this kind of "thick vining" is typical of females, while males produce the much longer and faster growing internodes and proper vines. You can take a picture of the upper half of the stem, let's have a look.

Anyway, the page where you bought the plant says "no id, it could have some thorelii in it", you say "probably it's n. 18". I don't understand how it is possible to produce, buy and sell plants without having idea of what they are But at this point that could be (globosa x andamana) x (globosa x mirabilis) x (kuchingensis x mirabilis) :D
Plus, if you'll use it to make other similar hybrids, the actual ID becomes less important.

To prevent other people to fall in the same problem, don't label these plants as globosa, please label them as ?.

[zulteh279]

Hi, well I have took a picture of it. But let me explain about my stament "should be plant #18". From the page I did made a purchase for plant #18. But when I received the plant it does not look the same as in the picture. Note on the shape of the pitcher mouth. The one i get is more rounded compare to from the page picture is more to ovate shape. So I e-mailed to check on it.
This is the picture taken went I received the parcel:
the plant

the pitcher


The respond I get was that the plant I've received is not plant #18. So he send me another plant that to him should be the plant.
And this replaced plant is the one that turns out to be a female....The plant that is wrongly send is the one that is on the foreground of the 1st picture from the 1st post.

Now, back to our discussion....
so we are back to squre one....no ID for the plant.
anyway, the picture...
the stem

the shoot


And while we are at it, the picture of the 'wrong' plant....
the stem and shoot

the pitcher

[marcellocatalano]

oh, this is interesting.

The first plant has a leaf base that doesn't look like pure mirabilis/globosa (the vegetative parts of the two are identical). And the indumentum looks a bit different, maybe even absent, but the flash on the leaves doesn't help. You should ask where this "globosa x thorelii" is coming from (ask the seller). If it's home-made, we're still in trouble because it could be anything. You can send me some more photos of this kind to rafflesiana@yahoo.com, so we don't fill this place with my inspections

The second plant, the "wrong one", has leaf base and indumentum typical of globosa/mirabilis, so it should be globosa. For this one maybe you should wait until the stem becomes more or less twice longer, so we can make sure there is no decurrency or alae on the petiole.

[zulteh279]

As requested, I have send more picture to your email. Sorry about the flash...I just come back from work and it was raining that day. So it's dark and I have to use the flash. :P

PS:Will let you know soon about the seeds origin.

[kevyn chan]

ooh...share it here please...it has been verrrrry quiet in this forum...lets spice up the forum a lil bit...