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piscesilim: My P. primuliflora.
piscesilim
Global Moderator  member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male  Posts: 463 Location: Bukit Mertajam, Penang  My P. primuliflora.« Thread Started on Feb 7, 2007, 2:30pm »   Link to Post - Back to Top  LoggedLim 3sgjefferyGuest Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #1 on Feb 7, 2007, 2:55pm » Wah! pretty! Link to Post - Back to Top Logged cactusttsPioneer Member / Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 584 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #2 on Feb 7, 2007, 9:35pm » Hey, flowering! Nice. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedTS piscesilimGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 463 Location: Bukit Mertajam, Penang Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #3 on May 17, 2007, 12:40am » Blooms again!   « Last Edit: May 17, 2007, 12:48am by piscesilim »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedLim tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #4 on May 17, 2007, 9:12am » it`s really a gorgeous ping. hope mine will all survive & look like yours eventually. i`m keeping my fingers crossed. I can also see your little plantlets growing from the end of the leaves. *smile* Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline   Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #5 on May 17, 2007, 9:40am » So nice, but the one I bought from you died. I think my growing conditions is just not right. However, it grew a little plantlet for me before it died. Hope this survives. Nice clean white flower. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist piscesilimGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 463 Location: Bukit Mertajam, Penang Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #6 on May 17, 2007, 4:31pm » The flower is purpurlish. Not white.  Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedLim piscesilimGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 463 Location: Bukit Mertajam, Penang Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #7 on May 17, 2007, 4:32pm » The dewy flower stalk.  Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedLim artificialivePioneer Member / Global Moderator member is offline   Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 713 Location: Ayer Keroh, Malacca Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #8 on May 17, 2007, 4:35pm » The flower stalk is also dewy? Whooaa... Link to Post - Back to Top Logged[Naj Grow List] --- [Naj Wanted List] zakhrenSenior Member  member is offline  I'm back! Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #9 on May 17, 2007, 9:34pm » Nice~ I got another primu taday I'm so gonna protect this one with my life! How big is your flowering plant (diameter), just curious? Link to Post - Back to Top Logged piscesilimGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 463 Location: Bukit Mertajam, Penang Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #10 on May 17, 2007, 9:56pm » Around 8-10 cm. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedLim cosmokingFull Member  member is offline  Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 186 Location: Bristol, United Kingdom Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #11 on May 20, 2007, 11:21pm » Your plant seems like a nice size but it looks starved of light-how much is it getitng currently? Link to Post - Back to Top Logged zakhrenSenior Member member is offline I'm back! Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #12 on May 20, 2007, 11:38pm » How do you tell that it's starved of light? Difference in the leaves? Link to Post - Back to Top Logged cosmokingFull Member member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 186 Location: Bristol, United Kingdom Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #13 on May 20, 2007, 11:41pm » 1) It is a rather deep green colour and the leaves are saggy 2) The flower is not as colourful as it could be and it is also saggy with bent back petals 3) You cant even see any sticky glands on it-a healthy primuliflora receiving lots of sunlight would have a lot of mucus. This one has barely any. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged piscesilimGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 463 Location: Bukit Mertajam, Penang Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #14 on May 21, 2007, 2:31pm » I grow them under shade. May be have to give them more sunlight. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedLim cosmokingFull Member member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 186 Location: Bristol, United Kingdom Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #15 on May 21, 2007, 5:09pm » They do like a LOT of sunlight and water. I grow mine in full sun with water almos tup to the brim of the pot. It thrives and grows very qucikly and vigorously. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #16 on May 24, 2007, 10:28am » i think the sunlight intensity is different in UK....but i`ll experiment with 1 ping to see how it goes. i`ve read that p.primulifloras might get roasted in our tropical weather under full sun. it`s practically white heat here nowadays. will post updates. Lim, you try too yah ? Link to Post - Back to Top Logged piscesilimGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 463 Location: Bukit Mertajam, Penang Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #17 on May 24, 2007, 12:36pm » Hmm... Actually I try before. The P. primuliflora's leaves turn more yellow and narrower under 100% full sunlight and not dying. « Last Edit: May 24, 2007, 12:36pm by piscesilim »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedLim tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #18 on May 24, 2007, 1:18pm » Sounds like my d.adelae, coz my shade version is broad leaf, my sun version is spear shaped & narrow. Cosmoking : is yellow coloured leafs an unhealthy shade for pings ? as opposed to the deep green colour you mentioned. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged cosmokingFull Member member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 186 Location: Bristol, United Kingdom Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #19 on May 24, 2007, 5:22pm » Oh thats not true. The reason they're getting roasted is because people keep them too dry in full sun(i.e. water isnt up to the rim of the pot) I know when I say this because I lost a primuliflora like this last year by letting the water drop(by accident) very low. It died.  This species is also from sub Tropical Florida-the light intensity is roughly the same as in Malaysia during the Summer I believe. It is often found growing on the edge of streams in very wet conditions, sometimes even found to be completely submerged in water! It depends what kind of yellow leaves, Tarence. Some Pings like P. primuliflora tend to become more vigorous but also yellow-ish in full sun. This is normal. Other times when Pings, particurlarly Mexican Pings, become yellow because of lack of nutrition. Ive started to use some normal potting mix when I pot them up(it makes up roughly 1/6 to 1/10 of the compost) the yellow colour is gone and whats more, they grow much more vigorously. 
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Re: piscesilim: My P. primuliflora.
tarence
Global Moderator  member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male  Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong  Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #20 on May 25, 2007, 8:47am » Thx Cosmoking.....i`ll keep the water level high when i expose them to full sun. My mexican ping`s leaves tend to rot when exposed to too much water. I`m not supposed to water them from the top right ? Cos that`s how my adult mex ping rotted away ( when it got rained on everyday last year with minimum sun exposure ) Do you think I can expose the mex ping to full sun, put in in high water level & even if it rains, it`ll be no problem coz the leaves will eventually drip dry ? Link to Post - Back to Top  Logged cosmokingFull Member  member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 186 Location: Bristol, United Kingdom Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #21 on May 25, 2007, 11:15pm » The reason it rotted away is because you were giving it nowhere near enough sun, and because it was constantly wet and in dark conditions and thats why it rotted away. Mexican Pings shoudl not be kept wet up to the brim! Keep their tray permanently full of water throughout their growing season-I presume your water trays are about an inch high? If so then thats fine. I grow the vast majority of my Mexican Pings in full sun and plenty of water(water tray always full)and I have never had a plant rot since I started keeping them this way. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #22 on Jun 28, 2007, 6:39pm » Cosmoking : what if my p.primulifloras are already in pot-high water & in full sun but still are sluggish in growth ? They doesn`t seem to grow big at all but they does have plantlets at the leaf tips. They are nowhere near the maturity size shown by Lim. Are they slow growers ? I`ve had mine for about 2 months & there`s nary any growth. The good thing is the plant isn`t rotting or turning brown /black either. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged bifurcatumSenior Member  member is offline  Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 381 Location: Batu Pahat, Johor Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #23 on Jun 30, 2007, 9:53pm » My primuliflora nit doing good too  . The leaf started to rot. Growing out smaller leaf. This image is reduced by 13%, click it to view full size.  Link to Post - Back to Top Logged piscesilimGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 463 Location: Bukit Mertajam, Penang Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #24 on Jun 30, 2007, 10:37pm » Could be something wrong with the substract. Better change all the sphagnum moss. « Last Edit: Jun 30, 2007, 10:38pm by piscesilim »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedLim tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #25 on Jun 30, 2007, 11:34pm » Yeah, mine looks like yours TS.....except smaller & slimmer. our poor pings ! btw, why does your medium look so black at the edge of the pot ? you use poor quality spag moss ah ? heheh, use lah the NZ punya.... Lim : i`ll change the med to all spag moss for one pot & see if it improves....thx. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged ameliepoulainGlobal Moderator member is offline   Joined: May 2007 Gender: Female  Posts: 442 Location: Ara River, 11900 Penang Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #26 on Jun 30, 2007, 11:47pm » looks like root rot or it could also be some tiny pest causing that. I think you should replant the plantlet before they are affected too. just my 2-cents worth. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedAthene's CP GrowlistAthene's Wishlist piscesilim Global Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 463 Location: Bukit Mertajam, Penang Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #27 on Jun 30, 2007, 11:55pm » Hmm... What water you are using? Did you put water tray? And where you put your plant? Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedLim tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #28 on Jul 1, 2007, 10:55am » Here`s what my ping looks like. why diff shaped leaves from TS`s punya eh ? But p.primuliflora`s leaves should be longish rite ?  « Last Edit: Jul 1, 2007, 10:59am by tarence »Link to Post - Back to Top Logged piscesilimGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 463 Location: Bukit Mertajam, Penang Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #29 on Jul 1, 2007, 11:06am » Tarence, Did you put your P.primuliflora under the full sun? But how's TS's P.primuliflora look like? « Last Edit: Jul 1, 2007, 11:07am by piscesilim »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedLim zakhrenSenior Member member is offline I'm back! Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #30 on Jul 1, 2007, 11:29am » Mine looks like tarence's. The leaf shape changes just like any other plant. More sun, smaller less green and tougher leaves, less sun, bigger greener softer leaves. Bifurcatum, what is it growing in? Doesn't look like sphagnum... Plus I find stronger plants grow in full sun with the water level up to the brim of the pot. Try do that. Looks like it needs alot more sun. But full sun is dangerous, forget to fill the water up to the brim for 2 mornings and the plant will start to burn. I forgot for 1 morning and the new leaf was a bit curled, luckily nothing serious. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #31 on Jul 1, 2007, 12:37pm » Lim : yep, full sun.... Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #32 on Jul 1, 2007, 5:21pm » Just to share my limited experiece. Mine look like bifurcatum's. Then later died. However I manage to get two baby plantlets before the mother plant died. These two are repoted in sphagnum peat moss and perlite. I did not place them on a water tray but kept the media always wet. Then one died and the other looks like it is mearely existing. I shifted that one on a tray of RO water. It is now thriving and it looks like tarence ping. Although mine in not under sun but it is under 16 hours of artificial lights. So, perhaps what works for this species is: - sphagnum peat moss media - water tray method - clean distilled/RO water - alot of sunlight Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist piscesilimGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 463 Location: Bukit Mertajam, Penang Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #33 on Jul 1, 2007, 11:35pm » Quote:Lim : yep, full sun.... That's why the leaves look curve and narrow. I don't like narrow leaves look. So, I keep all my P. primuliflora under shade with 100 % sphagnum moss as substarct and no water tray. Give them water every 1-2 days. Use well water for watering. They grow like weed. « Last Edit: Jul 1, 2007, 11:39pm by piscesilim »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedLim tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #34 on Jul 1, 2007, 11:57pm » But p.primuliflora leaves ARE supposed to be curved & narrow Lim...did you see the pic in Savage garden ? They are curved in to collect the juices secreted from digesting insects. Does your shaded pings flower ? I believe I saw a flower before right ? They still flower even in shade ? That`s interesting.... Link to Post - Back to Top Logged piscesilimGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 463 Location: Bukit Mertajam, Penang Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #35 on Jul 2, 2007, 3:04pm » Yes. They bloom under shade. And my P.primuliflora grow better under shade than full sun. « Last Edit: Jul 2, 2007, 3:05pm by piscesilim »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedLim cosmokingFull Member member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 186 Location: Bristol, United Kingdom Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #36 on Jul 2, 2007, 6:31pm » Quote: Quote:Lim : yep, full sun.... That's why the leaves look curve and narrow. I don't like narrow leaves look. So, I keep all my P. primuliflora under shade with 100 % sphagnum moss as substarct and no water tray. Give them water every 1-2 days. Use well water for watering. They grow like weed. If you dont like that look then Im afraid Pinguicula are not for you! All well grown Pinguicula will have curved leaves...its to force insects into the middle of the leaf and to stop them escaping. You will also find that primuliflora's in sahde, as well as not being such good insect catchers, will also succumb to rot much more readily then those in full sun. In response to David, for my medium I have the top third in live spaghnum and the rest is in a mixture of 50:50, sand and peat. « Last Edit: Jul 2, 2007, 6:31pm by cosmoking »Link to Post - Back to Top Logged piscesilimGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 463 Location: Bukit Mertajam, Penang Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #37 on Jul 2, 2007, 8:52pm » Well. Seem fun sun is highly recommended. I will start a experiment again with 10 pot P. primuliflora under shade and 10 pot P. primuliflora under full sun. Then see what happen after 3 months. « Last Edit: Jul 2, 2007, 8:53pm by piscesilim »Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedLim cosmokingFull Member member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 186 Location: Bristol, United Kingdom Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #38 on Jul 3, 2007, 10:33pm » Make sure you keep the ones in sun as wet as possible-up tot he brim of the pot if you can. If you let them dry out they will almost certainly die, so be very careful. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #39 on Jul 4, 2007, 10:26am » Alas Cosmoking, we can`t grow live spaghnum moss here....it just doesn`t grow well....someone plse correct me ! i`d be so happy. how do you manage to grow spag moss under full sun ? aren`t moss suppose to be shade dwellers ? but anyhow, i have not seen anyone growing thriving spag moss in full sun as medium for CPs......not in M`sia anyways. I have always envied pics of cultivated CPs peeping out from live spag moss, looks so natural.
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Re: piscesilim: My P. primuliflora.
cosmoking
Full Member member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 186 Location: Bristol, United Kingdom Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #40 on Jul 4, 2007, 6:21pm » If Spaghnum Moss grew in the shade then Venus Flytraps would also be growing in the shade in their native habitat, for Flytraps, Sarracenia etc. grow in Spaghnum Bogs in a lot of sun, usually full. That image is a bit of a fake I'm afraid-here I have found that Spaghnum moss only survives long term in pots of P. primuliflora and pots of Nepenthes, it dies in most other situations for me and other people have found the same. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged zakhrenSenior Member member is offline I'm back! Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #41 on Jul 10, 2007, 8:41am » My primu is flowering! Yay! Haha not like seeds are needed but I wanna see the flower anyway  Link to Post - Back to Top Logged tarenceGlobal Moderator member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,523 Location: Bandar Kinrara , Puchong Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #42 on Jul 10, 2007, 2:40pm » Wah, congrats Zak.....what`s the plant size like ? Got photo & mebbe place a 50cts coin next to the pot as comparison ? i`ll be over the moon if / when mine flowers. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #43 on Jul 10, 2007, 10:09pm » Jealous, jealous, mine only about 1 inche in diameter.  What to do, I killed the mother plant. This is the baby from the leave. Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist zakhrenSenior Member member is offline I'm back! Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 473 Location: Subang Jaya, SS19 Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #44 on Jul 15, 2007, 9:03am » Here's some pics This image is reduced by 13%, click it to view full size.  This image is reduced by 13%, click it to view full size.  Sorry I didn't put a coin there... But the main plant is 4" diameter. So you can imagine haha. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged DavidAdministrator member is offline Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 2,326 Location: Kuala Lumpur Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #45 on Jul 16, 2007, 9:20am » It's a beauty Zak. Amazing... how come your plant produces so many baby plantlets from the dying leaves? You must be provising them withe the perfect conditions. Way to go Zak! Link to Post - Back to Top LoggedMy Wantlist cosmokingFull Member member is offline Joined: Apr 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 186 Location: Bristol, United Kingdom Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #46 on Jul 16, 2007, 8:08pm » And who told you to grow them like that eh Zak? *cough cough*  You seem to have an all white clone-my clone produces blue-ish flowers, whereas yours is completely white, so a bit mroe unusual. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged jonathanSenior Member member is offline   Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 357 Location: sg buloh Re: My P. primuliflora.« Reply #47 on Jul 19, 2007, 1:03am » Hi zak.... Wow they are beautiful...... hope i mine will flower for me when they grow up...... hehe
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